God Led Him To Kidnap & Rape, Go Figure!

No man deserves death. Life is a gift however, not right. We each choose what to do with it. People like this choose to throw theirs away.

That doesn't give you or me the choice to kill anyone. We don't have the right to judge what wasted life is.

No one has the right to judge another man, I agree with you fully. However, without a judicial system and consequences for actions, the world would be an even scarier place than it already is. At least as it stands now, a few of the crazies decide the juice isn't worth the squeeze. (Fail movie quote but it actually worked there...)

You should read "The Final Truth". A true hero among heroes.

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I'm lost...so all the people with faith want to take someone's life..and all the people without faith feel taking any life is no one's right...sigh...Why do we even try anymore...

Because you have to have faith to have morals?

Problem is you can have both, one or neither.

So we need faith/religion to have morality of some sort...really?...hmm...So when someone starts the conversation off with "Well I'm a christian (or other assorted religion) and etc. etc."...Did they just take the moral high ground?

It wasn't a statement, it was a question. That was evident from the question mark at the end of the sentence. I was asking you "Because you have to have faith to have morals?" since you said:

"I'm lost...so all the people with faith want to take someone's life..and all the people without faith feel taking any life is no one's right...sigh...Why do we even try anymore..."

I'm asking you if you think only people with faith have morals since you implied that people without faith would automatically think the death penalty is ok.

Morals are more important than faith 100%.

No..you misunderstand because I actually implied the opposite...It seems from the posts that people with "faith" seem to always be comfortable with the death penalty...I must not have typed it clearly enough I apologize...

Maybe I misunderstood myself, I apologise for being short with you.

We are all taught while growing up that for every action there is an opposite reaction. Whether by the actual Physics law or indirectly by living life from day to day. You can pretty much put anything in an "If-Then" statement.

If you do not do your homework, then you will receive poor grades.

If you do not watch what you eat, then your health will deteriorate.

If you work hard in life, then you will significantly increase your chances of reaching your goals in life.

If you do not obey the law's of the governing body under which you live, then you will be punished according to those same law's of which that governing body deems fitting for the crime.

With that said according to some websites that report statistical data on state capital offense lists, he is not eligible for the Death Penalty under Utah's laws. So I must respect the law of a another state. If Elizabeth had died during her capture most definitely we would be having a different discussion. So in his defense the punishment fits his crime according to the law in which the crime was commited. Although I sympathize with some of you in regards that in the heat of passion many would wish for Utah's courts to make an exception just this one time.

As far as Capital Punishment goes, it is widely accepted worldwide that if you commit murder, then you will be rewarded for your actions by being put to death for your crime. It is a determent. This is not oppression of government or some incredibly unbearable law that is hard to follow. Don't murder someone. There you go, you won't have to worry about a death penalty. It is a responsibility the government has to its citizens to insure and maintain order. Do they get it right each time? Is the system perfect? Have people been put to death that should not have been. No, no, and yes. It needs some tweaking in my opinion to truly filter out those whom are guilty and those whom are innocent but in general the system works as it should and many of us here will not butcher our neighbors into pieces for playing loud music at 3a.m. If we didn't have laws and penalties for breaking these laws then we would have a crap ton of psycho's out bathing in a mock zombie apocolypse. My pantry isn't stocked with enough food yet for the Zombie Apocolypse so lets hold off on letting the psycho's run lawless for a bit longer... mmmmk?

Or you could just put them in prison for the rest of their lives, make them do trivial work that no-one else wants to do.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

lol yeah, it's bad when supposed "no moral" faithless people have a higher morality than those wih faith, but considering the christian god (and many others too) is a bigot, it's not too out there...

So the pro-death penalty people think either there is a "greater good" in their actions or that the wholesale lowering of the bar for executing people is in order.

Possible executing of the innocent? Bring it on!

America is starting to feel more and more like Germany 1936.

So how many countries have abolished the death penalty?....(serious question)...also...How many religions frown upon murder?...(also a serious question)...With that said...It does not mean this person did not commit a crime...Punishment needs to be carried out in someway...But is it really true that any human has the right to take someone's life?...Should governments really be allowed to kill their own citizens?...Is society itself satisfied with ending human lives without question...This is a complicated issue to me...

yes, because everyone convicted of murder is guilty, no system (currently conceivable) can prove either way, putting an innocent man to death for a crime does not justify whatever *** sense of accomplishment one gets for murdering an inmate.

also on the life thing, everyone has the right to life.

You my friend are a moron, modern America has very little in common with Pre-WWII germany.... Bet you are a Bill O'Reilly fan and get chubbies from Nazi slide shows. In seriousness though, the death penalty is a tough subject, a governing body shouldn't be able to decide when a crime is "over the line" to warrant a death penalty imho, but if it could potentially save other lives, who is to say one life is greater then a couple when that one life has made horrible choices.

Taking a life is an absolute decision...One that can't be reversed with our current technology...Should we really be dealing in absolutes?