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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-02 20:09:19
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
Anyone 78+ in haubergeon(NQ) should be banned.


NQ Hauby still hold more accuracy though.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-02 20:10:20
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Inb4 -20 eva.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-08-02 20:11:04
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Ifrit.Vextra said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:


i'd like to say my TP setup for sam is ... ok?

but I know it needs some work, I plan on using perle legs body and maybe feet (still not sure if they beat out fumas)

Go with full Perle set, until you can get Byakkos's Haidate.

I would of said get a Rose Strap too, you can have full Perle and a 6 hit then.


Ugh, I do need to work on getting that :/

NEEDZ MOAR KITTIE PANTZZZ

/endtroll


Yeah ... been there ... done that ... been passed up for chances to lot plenty of times.



*** sky.
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2010-08-02 20:11:09
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Oh and it has -2...
Odin.Dirtyfinger said:
Inb4 -20 eva.

***. D=
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 20:11:31
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
Anyone 78+ in haubergeon(NQ) should be banned.

ah no wrong, NQ hauby has more acc which is good for penta sams, HQ is better of course.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-02 20:12:21
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Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
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i'd like to say my TP setup for sam is ... ok?

but I know it needs some work, I plan on using perle legs body and maybe feet (still not sure if they beat out fumas)

Go with full Perle set, until you can get Byakkos's Haidate.



Yeah, i've heard alot of people tell me that, been tossing that up as well, still got 33k to 78 to decide lol.

It would be an upgrade from what you currently use. Not counting the swift belt for either gear set, you currently have 11% haste with that gear. Full Perle set would give you 14% haste. (also more offensive stats.. str, attack etc.)

Once you can get Byakkos's Haidate though, you will be at 16% haste. (not counting the belt again)

Asura.Daleterrence said:

I would of said get a Rose Strap too, you can have full Perle and a 6 hit then.

Yeah, good call. I completely forgot about the storeTP for the 6hit, but yeah... just put in a Rose strap in there, but I guess he/she needs to work on getting a rose strap.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2010-08-02 20:12:24
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more DEF, +3STR -1DEX +5AGI -2acc +20eva Doesnt look like ***
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2010-08-02 20:13:08
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Ifrit.Vextra said:
Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
Anyone 78+ in haubergeon(NQ) should be banned.

ah no wrong, NQ hauby has more acc which is good for penta sams, HQ is better of course.

Shura Togi
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 20:13:47
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Leviathan.Catnipthief said:

Yeah ... been there ... done that ... been passed up for chances to lot plenty of times.



*** sky.

yea then id agree with everyone else and say you should join the perle bandwagon...

at least you wont look like a pink power ranger...just a white one
(tommy was still the best as the green ranger...just sayin)
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2010-08-02 20:13:52
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
more DEF, +3STR -1DEX +5AGI -2acc +20eva Doesnt look like ***

Yes, because I'm totally a Ninja.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-02 20:14:53
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As I said in one of the many other hundred SAM threads Askar isn't that bad a choice anymore, but it's always good to carry Hauby +1 for times in need and yes especially Penta spam.

Right now with Marinara Pizza +1 if I put Askar body on I have nearly 470acc. Overkill for a lot of things, but it can enable Sword Strap usage.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-02 20:15:58
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Asura.Daleterrence said:
Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
more DEF, +3STR -1DEX +5AGI -2acc +20eva Doesnt look like ***

Yes, because I'm totally a Ninja.


This is spot on, and you know what? If you're a Sam without a oshi set then you're doing it wrong.

Arhat's Gi /+1 says hi.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2010-08-02 20:16:16
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I've always done north of 15% extra dmg with shura on penta.
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 20:16:46
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
Ifrit.Vextra said:
Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
Anyone 78+ in haubergeon(NQ) should be banned.

ah no wrong, NQ hauby has more acc which is good for penta sams, HQ is better of course.

Shura Togi

k, how easy is it to get a NQ or HQ hauby than it is to get a togi?....hauby has penta modifiers covered....fail.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2010-08-02 20:17:26
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Nice double post
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2010-08-02 20:17:34
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Odin.Dirtyfinger said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:
Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
more DEF, +3STR -1DEX +5AGI -2acc +20eva Doesnt look like ***

Yes, because I'm totally a Ninja.


This is spot on, and you know what? If you're a Sam without a oshi set then you're doing it wrong.

Arhat's Gi /+1 says hi.

I'm doing it wrong then.. Because I'd never take my oshi set off ; ;
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 20:18:06
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
Nice double post

yea ifail lol, but still HQ hauby>shura togi for penta.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2010-08-02 20:19:31
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It matters on the rest of setup.....

Edit: If ur nude with JUST a haub+1 then yes.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-02 20:21:46
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So you'd trade 3.5 ATK for 6 STR/DEX that are both Penta mods, minimal mods but they're both mods.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2010-08-02 20:23:06
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I've barrowed a haub+1 and tried hours and hours of testing. No dice.
Also for rana it's out damaged.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-02 20:25:21
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If you have the parse of both I'd like to see ^^
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 20:25:41
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
It matters on the rest of setup.....

Edit: If ur nude with JUST a haub+1 then yes.

err...6str and dex equates to roughly 3.75 att acc yes?

12 att and 12 acc + the 3.75 from the str and dex = 15.75 att and acc

so HQ hauby is roughly 15.75 att and acc + 6str/dex(penta mods)
compared to
shura togi = 10 acc 20 att....

hmmm something seems like a clear winner to me
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-02 20:27:08
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Nearly, it's 4.5 as 6x .75 = 4.5 so it's 16.5 ATK.
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 20:29:56
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Odin.Dirtyfinger said:
Nearly, it's 4.5 as 6x .75 = 4.5 so it's 16.5 ATK.

even better...

/endthread on penta sam body piece.
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By Ragnarok.Kyoshin 2010-08-02 20:31:22
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
Anyone 78+ in haubergeon(NQ) should be banned.

Oh noes!

Please hold off the ban hammar until I finish Usukane Haramaki.

Point? Some people have other goals with their money.
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By Phoenix.Sketchkat 2010-08-02 20:34:56
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Hurray for assembly line Samurais!
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-08-02 20:37:12
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Here is my current tp setup I get a 3 hit with this build beats any haste setup out there for obvious reasons.

If I can get a Cor I have him do SAM roll bring me to 2 hit build so ws hit ws hit ws. Kills anything short of fully upgraded relic.
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 20:37:18
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hachiman just got upgraded.....to perle lol
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 20:38:11
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Bismarck.Maxse said:



Here is my current tp setup I get a 3 hit with this build beats any haste setup out there for obvious reasons.

If I can get a Cor I have him do SAM roll bring me to 2 hit build so ws hit ws hit ws. Kills anything short of fully upgraded relic.

EPIC...
inb4 3 hit nana

edit: 15.3 seconds between each swing lmao
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