Uther's Grip VS. Pole Grip

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 Ramuh.Attribute
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By Ramuh.Attribute 2011-03-08 15:44:07
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As the topic says.. DA or STR and GA Skill... Its a tough pick for me but I really like Uther's. Comments, debates? I have the MAX for DA besides the grip so I just can't decide.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-03-08 15:48:51
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lol
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By Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn 2011-03-08 15:50:03
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sword claymore rose or pole(depending on builds etc) this grip offers nothing unless i am missing something.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-08 15:50:05
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
lol


and Pole

No debate required.
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By Cerberus.Zandra 2011-03-08 15:50:55
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Yeah its not even close, 2% DA is better than STR and skill.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-03-08 15:53:27
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Uther's grip is worthless for the jobs that can use it
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By Ramuh.Attribute 2011-03-08 15:53:44
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Well. Before Abyssea it was IMPOSSIBLE to cap Double Attack so no rate was ever listed.. I see no difference really with Pole. Perhaps we are at or over the cap now?
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-03-08 15:55:11
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I honestly don't believe the cap on DA is 25% like some ppl say
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-03-08 15:57:16
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Ramuh.Attribute said:
I see no difference
Ramuh.Attribute said:
I see
Ramuh.Attribute said:
see


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By Cerberus.Zandra 2011-03-08 15:57:27
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Someone get him the chart.

Edit: NVM I got this


Help us Ryanreong you're our only hope!
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-03-08 15:59:04
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Odin.Sheelay said:
Uther's grip is worthless for the jobs that can use it
It's nice for the RNGs without Jishnu's yet. :x
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By Ramuh.Attribute 2011-03-08 15:59:16
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Someone get him the chart.

Edit: NVM I got this

Where is the raw information to prove this though? Wiki list Nothing on Double Attack but the basic ***we all know.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-03-08 16:05:21
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Ramuh.Attribute said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Someone get him the chart.

Edit: NVM I got this

Where is the raw information to prove this though? Wiki list Nothing on Double Attack but the basic ***we all know.

About 5 years ago on every major public FFXI forum that was ever created. Though I fail to see how that chart relates to STR v DA. Pole > Uther

Edit: Oh, using it to show the cap on DA. Fair enough, although to be fair back when that chart was made there really was no way to cap double attack.
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By Ramuh.Attribute 2011-03-08 16:08:20
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Iunno, i'll just main Pole a few days to see if I really see a difference and parse it on the same mobs. As far as I can tell though ATM I DA the same as before.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-03-08 16:10:41
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This person have Emp. GA and got to ask this question? >_>
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By Siren.Catabolic 2011-03-08 16:11:47
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The +4 str is completely worthless now even out of abyssea(as with +1's/+2's and new accessories you can easily hit cap(or bring it to a point where the +4 will not come anywhere near outdoing 2%DA). GA +4 isn't going to make anywhere near as big of a difference as DA2%. Uther's is the only piece of ***gear rani drops..

edit. It's not just Pole Grip that completely destroys Uther's. There are at least 3 other grips that also make it a complete joke for every single situation.
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2011-03-08 16:12:03
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stop making threads you idiot
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-03-08 16:12:26
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Empyrean does not = Skill/Knowlege

Gimps of all kinds can get Empyreans

True Story.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-08 16:14:12
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Empyrean does not = Skill/Knowlege

Gimps of all kinds can get Empyreans

True Story.
They were also able to get relics and mythics.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-03-08 16:14:16
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Empyrean does not = Skill/Knowlege

Gimps of all kinds can get Empyreans

True Story.

So true..

Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Empyrean does not = Skill/Knowlege

Gimps of all kinds can get Empyreans

True Story.
They were also able to get relics and mythics.

But that was/is far more rare D:
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By Ramuh.Attribute 2011-03-08 16:14:49
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Stupid *** don't even listen to the point. I'm trying to figure if there is a DA cap. No one can prove if there is or is not one.
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By Caitsith.Crunkie 2011-03-08 16:15:22
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Empyrean does not = Skill/Knowlege Gimps of all kinds can get Empyreans True Story.

Damn beat me to the punch.

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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-03-08 16:15:24
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Empyrean does not = Skill/Knowlege

Gimps of all kinds can get Empyreans

True Story.
They were also able to get relics and mythics.

Very True x:
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2011-03-08 16:16:42
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Ramuh.Attribute said:
Stupid *** don't even listen to the point. I'm trying to figure if there is a DA cap. No one can prove if there is or is not one.
Even if someone slapped you in the face with the information you would not have the first clue what to do with it.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-08 16:17:05
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Ramuh.Attribute said:
Stupid *** don't even listen to the point. I'm trying to figure if there is a DA cap. No one can prove if there is or is not one.
Then name the tread

"DA cap?"

Not "[insert retard grip here vs pole grip]"

even if you were capping DA, provided there is even a cap, Uther's grip would certainly not be the next best choice.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-03-08 16:17:20
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Ramuh.Attribute said:
Stupid *** don't even listen to the point. I'm trying to figure if there is a DA cap. No one can prove if there is or is not one.

Aaand with this comment, you just doomed yourself to get hardcore trolled...
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By Ramuh.Attribute 2011-03-08 16:18:10
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Very productive to find the facts aren't we? How about stop trolling and lets find a definite answer.
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By Caitsith.Crunkie 2011-03-08 16:18:21
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Ramuh.Attribute said:
As the topic says.. DA or STR and GA Skill... Its a tough pick for me but I really like Uther's. Comments, debates? I have the MAX for DA besides the grip so I just can't decide.

I dont have that shitty strap, but if you want to figure out if there is a cap or not put on all your DA gear past 25%(idk where this number came from) and then parse, then do another with 25% see what happens.
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By Ramuh.Attribute 2011-03-08 16:18:47
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Odin.Sheelay said:
Ramuh.Attribute said:
Stupid *** don't even listen to the point. I'm trying to figure if there is a DA cap. No one can prove if there is or is not one.

Aaand with this comment, you just doomed yourself to get hardcore trolled...

I strive to be trolled.
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