UN Votes To Allow Gays To Be Executed Without Caus

guess your either gonna face getting killed or move to another country?

Or I can mind my own business and do what I want, and then a white american getting killed will make it everyone elses business.

i'll be the first to agree with you that the motives aren't pure

however--and correct me if i'm wrong, i might be, though i don't think i am

it's a largely ceremonial/symbolic declaration

i just can't see the change in wording changing anything

arab and african countries would continue to persecute gays if you very slightly changed the wording in an unenforced resolution

and they're not going to step up their persecution over a wording change either

things will continue exactly as they would have if the UN got distracted and completely forgot to do this years generic condemnation of killing people

it's a reflection of an attitude we(most of us anyway) were already aware of

yup lolafrica/lol extreme islam and their 5th century attitudes

but that's nothing new

i don't believe it changes anything from a practical standpoint either way


to answer your second question, you don't

at least not as the world stands today

I concur!

Wow I'm disappointed by the lack or real reporting I'm seeing on this. All sources I'm finding simply copy and paste the same information.

I'm left searching for information on the UN to find out what the actual ramifications are of this vote. LGBT sites claim that it will increase the human right violations, but don't support their claims with any sources or logic. Neutral sites don't reveal any insight into why the changes were sought, or how or if it effects international law.

I'm woefully ignorant in regards to international law and the UN, so if any of you are more enlightened in these matters and wish to correct me that would be appreciated.

So far I've come to the conclusion that this vote was held by a committee of the General Assembly, which is one of the 5 principal organs of the UN. Of the 5 organs it looks as though only 1 organ, the Security Council has the ability to vote on binding resolutions that carry legal consequences. The other organs only pass "recommendations" that carry no legal consequences but carry considerable political weight. These organs can refer an issue to the Security Council to put in place a binding resolution.

So I again am left with these questions: Without any real enforcement what is to gain in these proceedings? What is to lose? You know those 5 W's of journalism? Well where is they "Why?" in these reports.

The representative of Morocco, on behalf of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, said the Group was seriously concerned by controversial and undefined notions that had no foundation in international human rights instruments. Intolerance and discrimination existed in cases of colour, race, gender and religion, to mention only a few. Selectivity intended to accommodate certain interests over others had to be avoided by the international community. Such selectivity would set a precedent that would change the human rights paradigm in order to suit the interests of particular groups. An attempt to create new rights was a matter of concern for the Group. All Member States were urged to continue to devote special attention to the protection of the family as the natural and fundamental unit of society.

yeah mind your own buisness do what you want. just don't make it public and your safe, or move to another country!

who said I lived there?

the way you were talking it seemed as tho you were implying in general. Didn't know you were actually referring to YOU. It's cool this should not be an issue you can be gay in your own country with no problems

eliminate the anon posting feature

i'm sure that will happen soon.

^ korpg sock

I don't think it's korpg, he would have hit on me at least once by now.

I'm irritated with most of the news sites I've visited as well. It took multiple searches for any site to directly reference the UN versus press releases from ARC.

I also can't find the new ratified bill in its entirety. I can find the amendment that Morocco and Mali introduced and I can find the original (I think, 6 (b) is where you want to look). But not the updated document.

In response to how this will affect the LGBT community throughout the world, I think it depends. Morocco stated that:

The part I emphasize in bold concerns me. How in any way is homosexuality a threat to "family as the natural and fundamental unit of society"?

There are 76 countries that consider homosexuality a crime and 5 that count it as a capital crime (death penalty). I hope this legalization is not touted in those countries (and others) as verification and legitimization of their "Extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions".

In reference to those who commented that "discriminatory reasons on any basis" is inserted instead of "sexual orientation" that is incorrect. "Discriminatory reasons on any basis" was already in the the document, "including sexual orientation" was removed. So why weren't the other 18 specific groups/persons removed?

wasn't he?

who said I lived there?

no I am not gay,lesbian,bisexual,transexual,intersexual

I like women.

no I am not gay,lesbian,bisexual,transexual,intersexual

I like women.

It's people like you, slowlulz, that turn their back on injustice that destroy progress in peace. Yeah we can choose to allow people to kill out of hatred, because that is what it is, and just ignore it. We can "mind our own business." But where do we draw the line? Do we just mind our own business while innocent civilians are killed every day over religious disputes? Do we just turn away while children are thrown into wartime situations and made to wield weapons, when they aren't even old enough to understand what they are fighting and dying for? Let's just turn around and ignore North Korea while they develop nuclear weapons to use on their enemies and just *** the world with radiation. I'll admit there are a lot of instances where people should mind their own business. Like when someone has a sexual preference that is different from your own. When someone wants to practice their own religion without persicution. When someone wants to take the bus without being bombed. These are human lives that are in danger. Yeah they can just move to a different country.. good idea... but when every country decides to kill them outright where are they gonna go?

and men.

how can you even condone it with that excuse?

you are the one asking "what if's" on being gay in africa...lol