UN Votes To Allow Gays To Be Executed Without Caus

can they *** you?

This has nothing to do with the US. It's just about African and Islamic nations removing some red tape for their cause. For anyone who didn't already know, the UN has been a joke for at least the past twenty years.

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yours looks to be appropriate on a t-shirt! very nice!
I think they should make robot death not be included as a hate crime.

Darwinism, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!

Actually it doesn't make it legal, its saying they are no longer protected by the UN, so for instance, if someone in the Middle East (a dictator) started a homosexual genocide, the UN would not be obligated to step in and stop it in any way.

As for being a hate crime, yes all crimes are done out of some sort of hate, but the specific definition of a "Hate Crime" by legal terms, is a crime that is directed toward a group of people. So i could punch say a black guy in the face for picking a fight with me, but if i punched him then called him something racist, then it would be a "Hate Crime" because i directed my hate to a group of people instead of an individual. (Im not racist btw, well maybe a little, but shhh it's a secret)

Also if you notice, the vote was a vast majority of Middle East, African, and Carabeian (sp) countries, all of which have huge Homophobic tendencies, it's just sad that some more progressed nations were not represented or this atrocious amendment would not have taken place

You're right, in an ideal/Utopian world, you couldn't be more right.

Problem with the logic is, we live on Earth, and a LOT of people on Earth are simply NOT ready to accept all men as worthy of equal rights.
I wish we, as a species, were ready for that, because the world would be better, and I'd get to enjoy it during my lifetime. I have hope that I may see the day, but I'm not getting younger, so I have reasonable doubts about humanity's ability to mature/evolve vs. my expected lifespan.



See, Example A right here.

Well the only way to make it happen is to stop making it an issue. However, it's a common strategy of the democrats to make gays/blacks an issue. You don't see it quite as much on the internation level, I was surprised by this.

No I was not wrong. It is a hate crime, however these crimes can be committed by the government. Which means according to that government it is perfectly OK to kill someone for being homosexual or having same-sex relations.


From wiki : Extrajudicial killings are the illegal killing of leading political, trade union, dissident, religious, and social figures by either the state government, state authorities like the armed forces and police as a form of extrajudicial punishment.

Thanks for the Reuters link. I welcome different reports on this. I'd like to ask what could be the nations motives for rewording the resolution if it doesn't change how LGBT people are treated?

Why still include protection for religions, nationality, and sex in the resolution if "discriminatory reasons on any basis" should cover them as well? Are those still categorized as hate crimes where LGBT executions are not now? If so that isn't working just as well for me.

The vote to me scratches at a larger issue of the UN -- that is how do you effectively pursue human rights in an international sphere when some country's laws are based in a religious and cultural dogma that denies human rights to every human?

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Probably more accurate over all, yes.

I didn't understand what the republican item had to do with it either... Is Nancy Pelosi playing FFXI and hanging out in the forums?

What if a black guy beats another black guy up and call him "***? Still a hate crime? Or if a white guy beat up a white guy and calls him "***"? Or if a gay black guy beats up a white guy and calls him "whitey"?

The term hate crime is stupid. If you beat someone up its because you're pissed at them, no matter what color they are, and no matter who/what they like to *** when they get home at night.

"Mom... He's calling me names QQ"

I'll do it. (*'-')/

i'll be the first to agree with you that the motives aren't pure

however--and correct me if i'm wrong, i might be, though i don't think i am

it's a largely ceremonial/symbolic declaration

i just can't see the change in wording changing anything

arab and african countries would continue to persecute gays if you very slightly changed the wording in an unenforced resolution

and they're not going to step up their persecution over a wording change either

things will continue exactly as they would have if the UN got distracted and completely forgot to do this years generic condemnation of killing people

it's a reflection of an attitude we(most of us anyway) were already aware of

yup lolafrica/lol extreme islam and their 5th century attitudes

but that's nothing new

i don't believe it changes anything from a practical standpoint either way


to answer your second question, you don't

at least not as the world stands today

hehe

hate Tupac, but I think this fits the thread perfectly.

just means they aren't shielded in those countries. I don't think this is anything against lgbt.

the thing is, they wouldn't be shielded in those countries

if the resolution said to treat lbgt like gods among men

^was offended

^was highly amused

I am confused... let men *** men if they want to... leaves more women for the rest of us dammit!

Don't hate the gay men-- it is all about supply and demand. Less available men will lead to more available women, enlarging out potential dating pool! Sounds like a win for gay population and a win for heterosexual men!

Did it say anything about lesbians or were they grouped the same? They should leave them alone too, esp. the lipstick lesbians. I like them a lot!

OMG I am a pig… just had that self revelation-- be happy for me, I have grown emotionally!

So let me get this straight, its ok to beat my wife, its not ok for strange women to address me for any reason and their testimony can't be used against me in court, and now its legal to kill homos all I have to do is give up pork?

While this rewording may not actually change anything, it symbolically condones these behaviors.

Africa and islam have been our worlds running joke for centuries now, we can't cure them with out becoming what it is that makes them horrible excuses of human beings. What bothers me are the appeasers in cultures that should *** know better.

Wow I'm disappointed by the lack or real reporting I'm seeing on this. All sources I'm finding simply copy and paste the same information.

I'm left searching for information on the UN to find out what the actual ramifications are of this vote. LGBT sites claim that it will increase the human right violations, but don't support their claims with any sources or logic. Neutral sites don't reveal any insight into why the changes were sought, or how or if it effects international law.

I'm woefully ignorant in regards to international law and the UN, so if any of you are more enlightened in these matters and wish to correct me that would be appreciated.

So far I've come to the conclusion that this vote was held by a committee of the General Assembly, which is one of the 5 principal organs of the UN. Of the 5 organs it looks as though only 1 organ, the Security Council has the ability to vote on binding resolutions that carry legal consequences. The other organs only pass "recommendations" that carry no legal consequences but carry considerable political weight. These organs can refer an issue to the Security Council to put in place a binding resolution.

So I again am left with these questions: Without any real enforcement what is to gain in these proceedings? What is to lose? You know those 5 W's of journalism? Well where is they "Why?" in these reports.

I *** hate this kind of talk. "We can't cure them" It's there culture! They've been that way along *** time more so then we've been established here in america. Seriously, stop thinking we need to change everyones culture and the way they've done things just because "America, or any other country" doesn't like it. *** mind your own buisness

What if I want to be gay in Africa?
I guess I'd be fine being white and all...lol

guess your either gonna face getting killed or move to another country?