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Mastery Rank Data
By Pantafernando 2021-01-14 02:51:32
In terms of individual progression, having at least one should be necessary because of the titles it provides (at least aeonic, ergon and mythic, idr if relics, empys also gives one).
Having more than one shouldnt add anything to your rank, as REMA are items, and as such, disposable.
Lakshmi.Avereith
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2021-01-14 02:53:05
I guess I'm just thinkin what if the developers just saw the ffxiah achievements page and were like SURE make the rema worth allll the points for mastery rank
By Pantafernando 2021-01-14 02:55:18
adding some new things you've been talking about to my funky checklist
Rank 6:
-All Missions/addons complete
-Crafts capped (110 gold w/ escutcheon; ebisu+1/lu+1)
-All jobs mastered
-811 records of eminence
-Adoulin ring+1/ygnas
-Monster rearing: Missing 5 mementos (in progress)
-Maat's Cap
-All trusts
-All mounts except chocobo (in progress)
-All skills capped
-11 REMA (1 relic, 3 mythics, 2 empy, 2 ergon, 3 aeonic)
-Max fame except some Abyssea
-Abyssea Zones: 5/9 fully complete w/max fame
-Voidwatch complete (missing some KI from bc fights)
-All dyna-d full cleared/judge,jury,executioner
-Master trial: zero completions
-104/145 atma
-52/65 abyssites
-677+ quests complete (pre-title hunt, needs recount)
-724 titles/1056
-915+ days playtime
Missing Spells (this one should be easy to finish off what I'm missing at least):
Blm - absorb-chr, klimaform
Blu - cruel joke (only tricky one), reaving wind
Geo - geo-paralysis (huh, didn't even know I was missing this)
Nin - doton: ni, raiton: ni
currently trying: chocobo raising to end, abyssea full completion, 750 titles, 850 roe
Have we seen anyone yet that's rank 7 with a really really low amount of rema? or at least a level comparable to mine? (11 or less)
Also, if one of the flags is "has done ballista", I actually don't think I ever have on this character :x. Think it was out of style and only ever tried it on my OG character
If i could give you an advice, i would sugest you to focus first on master trials. I do think they can provide some good chunk of points.
Another thing to add to content related rank points, did you finish all merits and orbs battlefields on VD? I also think this is relevant.
On my main chars, i would first try beating master trials and full clear on dyna but i dont think my multiboxes are ready to that task and i dont feel like paying mercs just for this
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By Odin.Naytan 2021-01-14 08:18:52
Rank 7 has been achieved without any Master Trials completed.
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-01-14 19:21:58
Another no progress, progress bump
700 Roes
100 nyzul climb (+ one mythic ws unlock)
Dyna-D wave 1 boss
Still nada
Also spent the ENTIRE day with a brand new character skilling up, pretty confident that if having some amount of skill is a requirement, it's one of a set (or the characters age denies rank +1) or it's total skill including magic, of which they have absolutely zero.
it's also possible that you can't rank up unless you do the mentor ROE? I have no idea
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2021-01-15 00:01:05
6/9 abyssea zones down with miseraux completed. I'll finish the other 3 starting next week :o
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By Lakshmi.Blackada 2021-01-15 04:48:41
The process of weapon / magic skill-up also kills mobs, so the trigger for rank up could be the total mobs killed. Remember that square keeps the total mobs killed for each character which can be accessed at an npc during one of the events.
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-01-15 07:46:17
I got my rank + 1 from a reive
So no mobs where killed, it limited the options pretty heavily, but still yeah, it could've also been a ton of stuff at the same time. Hence the testing.
Both times I've gotten it to go up it was unexpected so I missed the exact event. it's pretty damned irritating tbh. I check and I check and I check and I check for *** days. And then I do a little skilling up and the damned thing goes up and I miss it.
By Pantafernando 2021-01-15 07:58:49
Anything in particular in that reive?
Like first time? Play time?
Idk what metric a reive can provida that would be relevant. Like total reives beaten? Total bayld earned? Total dmg dealt? Total dmg taken?
To keep it simple, i really hope your playtime hit some specific time
By Pantafernando 2021-01-15 07:59:12
I got my rank + 1 from a reive
So no mobs where killed, it limited the options pretty heavily, but still yeah, it could've also been a ton of stuff at the same time. Hence the testing.
Both times I've gotten it to go up it was unexpected so I missed the exact event. it's pretty damned irritating tbh. I check and I check and I check and I check for *** days. And then I do a little skilling up and the damned thing goes up and I miss it.
Ikr
By Manque 2021-01-15 08:00:47
Rank 1:
- RoV: Complete
- RoZ: Awakening
- COP: Road Forks
- ToAU: Royal Puppeteer
- WotG: In the Name of the Father
- SoA: The Smallest Favors
- Quests: 76
- Jobs @ 99: 5 (no Master)
- Deeds: 70
- RoE: 176
- Play Time: 17 Days
- Mog Garden: Rank 3
- Monstrosity: Not Started
- Chocobo Digging: 0
- Crafts: 0
- Synergy: 0
- Dyna: 0
- Abyssea: zone clears for Tahrongi, Misreaux
- WKR: Bee, Shark, Dino
I thought RoV would push me to 2 at least. Guess not.
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-01-15 08:02:42
Anything in particular in that reive?
Like first time? Play time?
Idk what metric a reive can provida that would be relevant. Like total reives beaten? Total bayld earned? Total dmg dealt? Total dmg taken?
To keep it simple, i really hope your playtime hit some specific time
Nothing unique about it. Already had the ROE for reives. Didn't kill any of the mobs in the reives.
But It could've been steps taken, or damage dealt, or number of attacks, or times zoning, or merits earned (you get small amounts of exp but a non zero amount), total bayld earned. Or any combination of them. It could've been *** anything u_u
And the playtime wasn't unique or "milestoney" like 4o days exact or something like that. it also wasn't exactly 100 days from creation or something like that either.
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-01-15 08:07:14
I thought RoV would push me to 2 at least. Guess not.
Go back like 5 pages. I did a TON of ***, that I thought would rank me up and got nothing.
I was still rank 1 with all this Nation Rank 6
320 Unique ROE
2 Aeonic (cleared Dyna Bas/San/Win/Jeu/Beau/Xarc)
RotZ Complete (16 missions)
RoV Complete (96 missions)
WotG Complete (53 missions)
CoP Complete (63 missions)
Total+Unfinished story missions complete: 341 (11 ToAU 86 SoA 4 Mini 12 Nation)
1 Job Mastered
96 Total Quests (if coalitions count as "quests" officially)
Essentially zero Windurst fame / Max Fame San d'Oria / Max Fame Bastok
Absolute zero crafts
3/6 WKR
Done multiple V1 ambuscade
Done multiple HTB
Never done any orb fights
10/22 unlocked and 99'd Figured it would at least be a rank 2 or 3 from what other people had, but nope lol
Lakshmi.Blackada
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By Lakshmi.Blackada 2021-01-15 08:31:36
Im mastery rank 4
Seeing as the rank up mentioned above was skilling up in reve, I suspect that the rank up was skill total related. I have max skills in all weapons and all but 5 magics.
Previous report indicates a skill up with a reasonsble number if missions done, but by no means all. I have most missions completed.
So... i guess for me at rank 4
1 mastery rank at character creation.
+1 rank for weapon/magic skills
+1 rank for some reasonable amount of missions complteted
.... so where does my last rank up come from?
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-01-15 08:41:31
That's what we're all trying to figure out brah
What's the thing different from your rank 4 to my now rank 3
Crafting (obtain some amount of skill TOTAL not 110 a craft)
Learn a set amount of spells (not blue specific, all spells in general)
VW 0-Prov (but check rank after every growth)
Abyssea 0-Shinryu
A high amount of quest completion
A very high amount of roe completion
monstrosity may be total levels, not obtain one cap level too
monster rearing (obtain all/most mementos) Have any of those? If so, that gives me a real goal for rank 4 to confirm.
Also thinking about / haven't done
Omega/Ultima I and II (done literally zero limbus)
Salvage I and II (done literally zero salvages)
Sea and Sky (done literally zero content ROE Gods)
Do meebles (please no)
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By Lakshmi.Blackada 2021-01-15 08:51:40
I have crafting at 104, synergy at cap
I have almost all spells learned including blue. Probobly need about 10 more
VW up to provenance entry
Abyssea done shinryu
A lot of quests done
ROE 706
Monstrosity very little, just went in once
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-01-15 09:01:22
I'm going to go around and just pick up every scroll spell in the game to see if that's a +1 at some point, but it's another thing I really don't want to do. I don't like having my spell list full of ***I don't need.
VW - But I'd rather wait for a campaign, unless I run out of other things to try.
Ave is doing the abyssea
Roe is lower than mine and monstrosity probably lower than mine.
Crafting (synergy) may be it too (obtain 200 crafting skill total?)
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By Lakshmi.Blackada 2021-01-15 11:41:11
Also thinking about / haven't done
Omega/Ultima I and II (done literally zero limbus)
Salvage I and II (done literally zero salvages)
Sea and Sky (done literally zero content ROE Gods)
Do meebles (please no)
My rank 4....
not done any of those, except maybe 1 or 2 Sky NMs.
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-01-16 17:58:46
More of the "I CANNOT FIGURE THIS ***OUT" Saga.
VW > Prov
Abyssea > Shinryu
Crafting up to 350
Medal of Altana
Some amount of additional titles and quest completion
The only thing I'm really noticing here, is that I do a TON of ***, and then 10ish days later I randomly rank up.
I can't possibly think of 4 more things to do for 4 5 6 and 7 (that are reasonable)
By Pantafernando 2021-01-16 18:31:10
At this point, i think i just have two main questions to answer:
- Is there some sort of specific goal to unlock a rank up? That is, even if i accumulate the required points to rank up, will i still need to complete this goal to receive the rank? For example, 4 out 6 mules earned one rank up after clearing original Celestial Nexus battlefield. Maybe Celestial Nexus is a pre req for rank 1 to 2?
- how to measure each factor contribution to total mastery rank? This one gonna be super hard as the discussion so far indicates that you earn those points from very low relevant actions like measly skill ups, opening portal, or even more subtle statistics like kills, dmg dealt/taken, steps, etc.
For the last one, best to think the entire system as the devs classified it: two factors, one relative to contents, and another relative to character progression. So, in theory, if you just develop your char without doing any content, you can estimate how much you need to rank up. Or its easier to control the amount of content you do between each rank up, like clearing (for the first time) X-numbers of battlefields, endgame event, etc.
The biggest challenge of this is the possibilities of "goals" like i mentioned in the first question, what can lead to wrong conclusions. And if there is a "goal" relative to play time, then all information collected gonna be terribly skewed, so the top priority should be defining if in fact exist the play time goal.
What i can do is grabbing my second set of mules and working on CoP and Zilart before they complete the 28 days. Even then, its gonna be quite hard because the previous set of mules had a good chunk of progress that it will be hard to replicate, like legends coalitions, SoA and WotG.
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-01-16 18:59:26
The biggest ***, is it's not repeatable.
it takes DAYS to recreate the defining event, and then you do, and it doesn't happen the same.
Which answers ALL the questions, but it's impossible to be sure without more data points.
Someone who has a bot to finish missions and sell accounts would have this mapped out in a day.
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2021-01-16 21:16:16
just copy/pasting this from my edited list two pages ago. these are things I have not done yet at rank 6 so far. I'm sure there are more, but these stand out to me
To do: chocobo raising to end, abyssea full completion, 750 titles, 850 roe, fiat lux clear (yeah right), buy useless guild items for titles (signboard, etc), kill(s): proto-omega, proto-ultima, arch-ultima, all dragon bcs (ouryu, all dragons, bahamut, etc)
By Disastaru 2021-01-17 08:21:27
I'm surprised no one has talked to the AMAN liaison npc yet and noticed this
"Mentors who earn lots of "Thumbs Up" replies from other adventurers will see their Mentor Class increase"
It is the 2nd line the NPC says after talking to it
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-01-17 08:29:23
Because it doesn't matter.
It was possible to be rank 7 on day zero, making the actual channel irrelevant. I've gone from brand new to rank 3 and never used the channel a single time.
By Pantafernando 2021-01-17 08:42:12
IBF4 gonna make bots to constantly spam thumbs up to my main.
Incoming mastery rank 9999.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2021-01-17 08:51:15
I thought mentor class and mastery rank are separate things?
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By Odin.Naytan 2021-01-17 08:52:35
Mentor class is separate from Mastery rank, even though they seem to make them sound related the way it is all organized.
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2021-01-17 11:55:03
Yeah the mentor thing in the pictures they showed was just changing from bronze to silver to gold flag as far as I know
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-01-17 17:24:17
As completing the entirety of VW and Abyssea and Altana Medal, I don't know what the actual *** it takes to rank up.
It is 100% time gated, I'm going to get rank 4 after some amount of time passes and again have not a single clue what it was.
(and Prov watcher is still literal cancer to solo)
Someone take a 5 year old mule account and do literally everything and watch the ranks. That's something I can't do anymore, no accounts that old.
If it's "points" it's a -shitload- of points.
If it's time gated it's at least 10 days per rank.
If it's "do this specific thing and this set of normal things" screw it.
By Manque 2021-01-17 22:09:05
I think Master Rank 8 is from 1000 completed venture roll games. Anyone care to test?
For anyone that wants to share where they are with Mastery Rank and there stats on quest/missions/roe and so forth. Rank can be found in menu under Status>Profile.
Any data helps, but more data for people at rank 6 can help us find possible base requirements. Stats from other ranks also can find baselines for those as well. Obviously stats from people if they notice when they rank up will be extra useful.
Square Enix said: Mastery Rank is a numerical value representative your completion of missions, quest, and various other types on in-game content. The higher the rank, the more you have completed. Source
The "other types of in-game content" might be hardest to figure out. Apparently at the moment Rank 6 is the cap?
Master Rank 4 with:
Rank 10 only in one city
Zilart/CoP main missions + epilogues completed
ToA/WotG/SoA/RoV main missions completed
No Addons done
451 ROE completed
Max Fame in Bastok, Windy, Sandy, Norg, Jeuno and corresponding linked areas
Relic/Empyrean/Aeonic completed, no mythics
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