Mastery Rank Data

When in doubt: get more titles.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/55467/mastery-rank-data/103/#3789104

That makes the most sense because it is client initiated, server confirmed upon demand.

It's all already tracked before mastery existed, yes *** way

The game knows your level with mission completion and titles and all that ***. It's a 1 or a 0, it's not a shitload of data.

I simply don't know, and maybe I'm way off here like I said. But take the currencies menus for example. I imagine most of it is stored client side and only verified with the server at specific times. Finding out when and what is verified could provide clues as to what they are actually tracking.

All the atmacite I have are max level, so I can't level any without acquiring more. I am missing a few, so it's not entirely out of the question, but I'd probably have to obtain first, then de-rank, then level them up to see if I rank up again.

Update: I was unable to de-rank by resetting AF quests alone. I reset all but NIN and THF, which weren't in the list. Presumably, I'm missing some random gear piece from their non-hands coffers, so I'll be figuring that out, then resetting them. I either did too much by ranking up my trusts, catching fish, and raising digging by 3 from 6->9, or the abyssite of the cosmos is worth more than I just made disappear. I'll also try changing nations in the past to de-level my campaign medal, and I might de-level some merits to see if that does anything. Any other ideas?

Update to that update: Hunted the NIN and THF coffers I was missing and reset those, too. Still haven't de-ranked. Working on going to change [S] nation now.

Update: That didn't work, either. Still rank 8. My Medal went from the 4th one to the second one when I changed, I've never had Medal of Altana.

By all indications that essentially means finishing the line is worth a huge amount of weight - and this is to be expected. It is not just that you got the abyssite, but it was the conclusion of the storyline. Still good info of itself, because it is appearing more and more like 'category completion' has a ton of weight. Lycopodium warps for example which are trivial to complete end up being worth more than a pile of AF quests too.

My update right now - still rank 5. Took down two wyrms, did a bunch of content, odyssey NMs (including V5s) and more. Got over 40 ML, finished SMN and COR spells, hit another Legend in a coalition, rank 7ed in monster rearing, did some SKCNMs. Chocobo is Day 20 now so soon I will be doing racing. The Rivalry is the only thing in the way of 100% completing San D'oria quests. Aht Urghan and Adoulin requiring REMA to finish going to be a pain there...

I noticed something, is the 'with honors' for the SKCNMs just for having done on at least difficult, but not necessarily VD? I know I did not complete the Antica one on VD, but I still had 'with honors' listed. And also... is there a track for other BCNMs - say for completion and not title-sake.

Was reading a bit more on Mastery Rank, the theories were tied to Playtime were interesting. Of the four possible ways playtime can be counted I think we can agree on certain points:

- Set amount of playtime = rank up. (Unlikely as 1000+ day playtime mules still rank 1 reported)
- Playtime increases a hidden metric for mastery rank with limit.
- Playtime increases a hidden metric for mastery rank without limit. (Unlikely because of 1000+ day playtime mules.)
- That there is some capping effect based on a threshold of playtime.

Other theories abound that Mastery Rank weight ties to Bard NPC price. A lot of higher battle content 400+ gil meaning that compared to some title quests and such that they would be worth several times more.

Perhaps we are working on a system that titles are basically NPC gil, and Quests have something as a default of 10, warps as 10, skills as 1 and you need some threshold number (and perhaps the playtime barrier) to go to the next rank. Missions probably would have a default of 100 or something with the ending being 1000/2000 (which would track with Altana medal being 2000~) points. This would also mean that we start seeing the 15 job AF quests being about the same as the Altana medal. Going by this metric... I needed maybe 75k points to hit rank 3. Rank 4 came later, but with a lot of titles so maybe 125k? I am under the assumption that I am capped at rank 5 right now... but that may change in a week or two.

I would like to see the Tu'lia teleports added to the list - as they are essentially lycopodium warps (and there are 3 of them too). Sad to say I missed the hidden Naja event... Did not realize it, but it probably doesn't count for anything (or it would probably be grandfathered like other quests that do track).

Now, we do know *skills* do track and go for this. SE said as much. I think it should also be added if only they give a literal per point of skill basis (i.e. bare minimum) but maxed skill might be worth like 4/5 of the lowest title. Add them up and suddenly it starts becoming more significant.

I was unaware anything but htbfs even kept track of that sort of thing. What npc shows the "with honors" for the kindred crest nm fights? I'll need to check that

The one who gives it to you, Shami.

Wait nvm, I had to be aware of that at some point because they give titles

Disregard

I'm rather convinced there must be a significant playtime requirement for each mastery rank. It wasn't initially an issue because we all had super old characters when they released this, but it's pretty obvious when you start a new character.

So a new character should then be able to accumulate enough progress in a short period of time, then do nothing but stay logged in to accumulate playtime, and rank up automatically? Has anyone reported this happening to them?

Nope, not even once

Aery was rank 4 at 57 days. He's rank 5 in under 100.

It's just cope trying to blame something holding you back.

The only way "playtime" can hold you back is there literally aren't enough hours in a day to get rank 9 on day one. Even if you magically zone warped, flagged all cutscenes finished with a hack and played every second of the day you couldn't do enough to hit a supposed wall in like a week.

If there is a playtime requirement, I think it would be on Rank 6 and above, because that is when the earring starts giving positive stats. Let us know if you hit Rank 6 and what your /playtime is at that time.

Have the mule do Bastok and Windurst missions since those are a less time-gated quest line completion. Abyssea, too.

I was flabbergasted with how much more running around there was for Windy missions than Bastok/San d'Oria. Even as COR/BLM it felt like it took forever to do some of them.

I did have a weird rank up. I was in Xarcabard doing a campaign battle and I zoned to Beaucedine to go kill Scylla. Now because I was messing around in Xarc and Beaucedine the hour threshold crossed and a day threshold crossed. I was 60 days and 2 hrs when I got the Rank 5. I had taken a bunch of steps to carefully plot and mark day 60 out, even going to screen record that time window because I suspected that at 60 days 0 hrs, 0 minutes of playtime I would hit Rank 5.

This did not happen. I waited for 15 minutes, zoned and checked again at 60 days, 0 hrs, 36 mins and finally gave up. The day changed and I zoned to do campaign stuff. To hit the next tier on my medal. Went to Xarc - had issues there because enemies trickled in. Did the same in Beaucedine and decided to go for Scylla. Now, I know it doesn't update until you zone. But I checked to screencap the title for Scylla - and I saw I was Rank 5. Time wise, it was 8:50 a.m. UTC. I was probably messing around in Xarc and Beaucedine for 1 hour Xarc took so long that a person with me warped out and I killed enemies as they trickled in from across the map one by one. Repeated this in Beaucedine.

So, either I got it from a campaign battle or there is a check that happens at some interval for playtime - if there is a cap.

My failing was to not account for some real-life hour check and thinking it would be just an in-game day check or a playtime check. Though I do not think 'hour checks' are a thing in FFXI besides JP midnight. It is also very strange that I would not have it at 60 days 0 hrs 36 mins and all I did was a campaign battle to put me over.

Here is my post from before: https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/55467/mastery-rank-data/94#3785902

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My theory is that I should get my next rank up at day 75. My personal theory is that rank 2 mastery should be possible from 10 days of playtime, or 15. I hit rank 4 on April 19th and Rank 5 on May 14th. Yes... I've only been Rank 5 for a little over a month and I may be chopping at the bit here, but I want to be proven wrong about a play time cap. Still, some part of me suspects it exists.

If only to deter people from having a bunch of mute powers.

title will update but MRank wont update until you zone. you probably got the rank by Scylla title.

There being no Home Point in Heavens' Tower is a lot of it, but yeah, you're right.

That's the thing - I did not zone. I was screenshotting the title for my completion right after kill. That is precisely why I was surprised I ranked up from the campaign battle or time. I track my titles that way ever since I warped and lost on beakbender title.

I read that for maze runes 085,117 you have to get them from Voucher 08 and for 114,115,116 you get them from Voucher 05. Are those the only runes you can get from the Hoardbox from those Vouchers or can you still get all the other crap as well? I was originally spamming 09 and then going to move to those 2 vouchers when I finish, but if the other misc. runes also share drop slots with the fishing/goblin runes in Vouchers 05/08, I imagine it'd be better if I go there now rather than wait.

The other runes still drop alongside the voucher specific ones.

Got 116 on my first run and had my hopes up, ah well. Guess I'm going to be goblin training for a while.

in about 50 runs of voucher 5 (goblin escort) i only got 1/3 of the unique runes.. I hit 1000 mazes and gave up. "I'll get those later"

Once I switched the goblin's job to the rune I wanted they dropped pretty quick for me

anyone else having issues with cor rolls and pup attachments not saving when reloading?

I've got a character with MR2 at 9 days, 22 hours.

I'd rather not list out everything I've done and not done on the character, but suffice it to say, 10 days is not a requirement for MR2.

If you don't want to list it out or use the tool that's fine by me. That could mean we are looking at either a low cap of 5 days or so, or that days count as points up to a certain threshold for mastery. Like say playtime days/hours = 1/10/100 points on some threshold or something. We do know for a fact playtime is the first listed aspect of Mastery Rank so I won't say there is no cap or limiter - or that it may be something very very low.

That being said, we should try to see if there is someone who has a very low rank 3 and rank 4 as well. I'd love someone to have Rank 5 under 60 days because it would mean that I didn't rank up for likely killing an interval of mobs (say 25k kills which would be accurate I think, or 100k 'fights') or something stupid like that, or that campaign battles count.

However, if I ding at 75 days it'll only put me more on a path of a cap.

In other news, 2/3 wyrms, 2/3 kings, PW and lots more battle content done. Hope to have AV and the other 'big ones' done as soon as I can.

I dingged rank 2 when I zoned after completing RoV. I got the final CS, zoned, and hit rank 2. I had 7 days and 15 minutes playtime, but I know I was rank 1 at 7 days and 5 minutes playtime.

Rank 10 Sandy / Bastok
CoP 7-4
RotZ done
ToAU done
WotG 9 (with the quests done)
RoV done

I'm inclined to believe that there actually isn't a time limit and that there's just a lot of weight on things OG players have but new players do not, like leveling and skilling up all the jobs.

Nuh uh now you have to prove it. Do it all again faster. Cause you were certain there was.