Random Politics & Religion #35: It's Turtle Time!

My take on it involves a different viewpoint. We had zillions of tax cuts mostly for stuff that members of both parties agreed would be beneficial for the nation.

I think it helped that both parties had liberals and conservatives. Cross party cooperation was necessary then.

There were a far smaller percentage of the wealthy who lived soley off passive investments back then. Trump's dad, like my grandfather, was of the working wealthy.

Closet and LED growlights?

They sell tents you know, you dont even need a closet

You understand that ridiculous high tax rates hugely benefit wealthy over middle class. They effectively block class mobility, which explains why progressives love the idea.
Who gets compensated most of their income in regular income and who gets it in non-regular income.

Like with insurance it is all a scheme. In my area of NY (13069) if you go on New Yrok State of Health (our obamacare exchange) there are 2 companies to choose from for obamacare plans. 2! Now each has 2 plans, which all suck. High deductibles and high premiums.

Now there are roughly, according to google, 28 major healthcare companies in the US. Why are only 2 allowed to serve my area? It's a scheme, plain and simple.

It's state regulations that prevents companies from competing across state lines. Inside each state the medical industry controls the prices through those *** tactics I said earlier. Nobody actually knows the real cost and with so many middlemen feeding at the trough nobody wants to rock the boat.

HDCPs are actually really good, when implemented properly. Unfortunately most companies see it as a way to cut costs and don't follow up with their part.

Chanti your link should have just said Mitch McConnell calls for cuts to Medicare and is completely ignored. Its not gonna happen, even if Trump supported it, which he doesn't.

Hmmm

This is pretty much on point 100%.

A progressive income tax makes it more difficult for the middle class to acquire enough liquid assets to turn them into sustaining passive income streams. It basically cements the people who already have them into the upper class and creates a massive barrier to entry for the rest of us.

Which is of course why those democrat plantation onwers love them so much.

So will you call for tax increases on passive wealth?

Like say capital gains? Dividends? Interest? Or eliminating the deprecation on real estate holdings?

Or even /gasp limiting farm substitutes to actual family farms rather than funding modern day corporate plantations?

I have mentioned the "death tax" in the recent past.

If so we might have even more in common.

Today was a good day on FFXIAH didn't even have to use the AK:

On Khashoggi, the Saudis have a new story with a glaring hole
Washington Examiner - reliably conservative

No, rich people are (generally) far more productive for the rest if us with them in control of their own money than the government in control of it.

We should continue to lower income taxes. That so very clearly produces high employment which enables the reat of us to aquire wealth of our own.

In a free market there are fewer barriers to entry for businesses and entrepreneurs. This produces a natural recycling of wealth and resources because small people can grow far more easily than large corporations.

Larger organizations have huge overhead. This will always put them at a disadvantage to smaller competitors UNLESS there are built in regulatory hurdels to small businesses that aren't problems for big businesses. Thats the essence of communism vs captialism.

Not that this doesn’t smell fishy, but, what is the evidence there story is flawed?

My initial inclination is to distrust the Saudis, but jumping to conclusions is a stupid move. We'd be much better off letting the investigation develop and having the evidence speak for itself. At that point we could work out an action plan with other allies and proceed accordingly.

Hahahah

No evidence in that one either bud. No crime either.

The Khashoggi killing happened very recently and we're just waiting for all the evidence to be made public.

Trump/Russia collusion has been investigated and talked about by practically everyone for years with not even a shred of evidence to speak of.

Why are we comparing the two again?

You're the one who brought up collusion. Show me the evidence of collusion. Hint: It's not in the list of people you named.

Only crimes anyone has pled guilty on are crimes that have nothing to do with the collusion.

All other allegations have been made at people who are still innocent until proven guilty who will never be put on trial.

This kosshogi guy isn’t even an American is he? But the left cares more for him than they did for any benghazi victim because the see another opportunity to try (and fail) to smear trump.

Shiroi, show me one crime that has anything to do with collusion. Campaign finance laws is all I see. Plus you say it is not a witch hunt but the investigation was to be for collusion in elections, other charges posted have nothing to do with it. That my friend is a witch hunt.

If it was an accidental death from a physical altercation the Saudis will have to produce an unmutalated body.

More like a fishing expedition. That's a tactic where you drum up *** evidence to get authorization to investigate on one charge knowing full well it's not going to pan out but hoping to dig up evidence of something else and then get convictions on those other things.

Democrats know full well that there is zero "collusion" or election rigging on Trumps part, he played a masterful campaign against an arrogant opponent who underestimated half the American population. Yet before Trump was President he was a businessman, and businessmen are known to do shady stuff because it's nearly impossible to succeed without doing so. Several wealthy Democrat leaders know this. Now you can't just investigate someone because they are wealthy and successful, you need evidence and most successful wealthy people are smart enough to bury that stuff.

So that's the Democrats master plan, they got one of their people to authorize an open ended investigation and staffed it with their own people. Mueller may be unbiased but the Democrat lawyers on his team aren't. Anything that's uncovered that might be used against Trump will be immediately passed into the hands of the Democrats so they can use it against President Trump. That's why they are digging through the financials of all Trump associates, hoping to find something that links Donald Trump to some past financial crime or SEC violation.

18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

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If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

He got nailed on the defraud part not collusion. Do some research bro.