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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-10-21 17:42:33
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Odin.Slore said: »
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If two or more persons conspire ...

He got nailed on the defraud part not collusion. Do some research bro.

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noun: collusion
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
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Synonyms for collusion
noun secret understanding, often with intent to defraud
complicity
conspiracy
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-10-21 17:43:39
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By Valefor.Endoq 2018-10-21 17:50:07
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my right eye feels like it has a porcupine behind it mining for brain tissue with a rusty pickaxe. i’m not sure how this is related to politics but this is 2018 so what the heck would i know, im just an attack helicopter after all.
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By Odin.Slore 2018-10-21 18:04:36
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Odin.Slore said: »
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If two or more persons conspire ...

He got nailed on the defraud part not collusion. Do some research bro.

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noun: collusion
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
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Synonyms for collusion
noun secret understanding, often with intent to defraud
complicity
conspiracy

0 to do with Russia. You guys are reaching to hard and I even got that info from CNN. It was about money not colluding with Russia the way the law is written they just have them grouped together. Even the cnn story said his agreement had nothing to do with Russia, damn guys like read ***before posting. I swear you read the catch line get a wood and post ***without reading the story in the link.
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By Nausi 2018-10-21 20:59:56
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On Khashoggi, the Saudis have a new story with a glaring hole
Washington Examiner - reliably conservative

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On Friday, Saudi Arabia acknowledged that Jamal Khashoggi was, in fact, dead. The cover story devised by the kingdom would be laughable if the matter weren’t so serious. According to Saudi media, Khashoggi died in a physical altercation at the consulate in Istanbul.

Not only is that ridiculous and contrary to all evidence, but it also has a glaring hole that the crown prince will be hard-put to fill....
Not that this doesn’t smell fishy, but, what is the evidence there story is flawed?
If it was an accidental death from a physical altercation the Saudis will have to produce an unmutalated body.

Why couldn’t circumstances exist that rationally explain a mutilated body? The conflict within the saudis and their quest towards modernity is not unknown. I mean this is the religion of peace, certainly something could have hapoened where strong islamist ideologues might have dismembered someone in an attempt to derail the prince’s intention.

Or the royal family could havr ordered the whole thing.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2018-10-22 07:34:21
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/holds my honorary red neck card

I still love my NFL and now with Kanye. He should be the one up on Superbowl Halftime.

Also, my Redskins barely beat the Cowboys yesterday. WOOOO
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By Odin.Slore 2018-10-22 08:09:48
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I quoted cnn man. How much more liberal can you get!?!?!
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By Odin.Slore 2018-10-22 08:27:24
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But your saying he was arrested for collusion with Russia, meaning election. That was not the case. The case law I quoted was from the cnn article dated Sept 15, 2018. I will dig up the article again if you like. It stated right in there that no election collusion. It was all about him making some money.
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But your saying he was arrested for collusion with Russia, meaning election. That was not the case.

Your sentence hardly makes any sense, but let me sum this up for you.

- He is guilty of fraud & conspiracy against the united states
- He was working for a Russian Oligarch
- He was the campaign manager of Donald Trump
Those three have absolutely nothing to do with each other. They mever sid, and there is nothing that legitimately connects them

Surely you realize this, or are you like incapable of critical though? I mean you’re exhibiting 100% NPC tier programing.
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By fonewear 2018-10-22 08:54:57
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632 days into investigation...we found a sugar packet that has a Russian symbol...Drumpf is finished for sure !
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By Nausi 2018-10-22 09:02:40
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And those charges were abandoned by the Mueller team once they secured a tax evasion conviction.

You were saying?
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By Odin.Slore 2018-10-22 09:12:13
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Those three have absolutely nothing to do with each other. They mever sid, and there is nothing that legitimately connects them

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/paul-manafort-rick-gates-told-surrender-special-prosecutor-probe-n815536

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The indictment says that both men generated tens of millions of dollars as a result of their lobbying work for the Ukraine. They hid the payments, from 2006 through 2016, by laundering the money through scores of U.S. and foreign corporations, partnerships and banks, according to the charges.

Their work included lobbying "multiple Members of Congress and their staffs about Ukraine sanctions" and "the validity of Ukraine elections," according to the indictment.


Election collusion where?
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By Nausi 2018-10-22 09:13:06
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Odin.Slore said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Nausi said: »
Those three have absolutely nothing to do with each other. They mever sid, and there is nothing that legitimately connects them

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/paul-manafort-rick-gates-told-surrender-special-prosecutor-probe-n815536

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The indictment says that both men generated tens of millions of dollars as a result of their lobbying work for the Ukraine. They hid the payments, from 2006 through 2016, by laundering the money through scores of U.S. and foreign corporations, partnerships and banks, according to the charges.

Their work included lobbying "multiple Members of Congress and their staffs about Ukraine sanctions" and "the validity of Ukraine elections," according to the indictment.


Election collusion where?
There is none, but asking that =/= “orange man bad” so there’s not need to question it.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-10-22 09:26:55
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The items in bold don't say what you think they say. Stop trying to Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon your way to Trump/Russia collision.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-10-22 09:31:22
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let him dream.... he's from canada wtf else does he have to do?

he's snowed in until june and all he has to eat is salted whale blubber and maple syrup
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-10-22 09:41:36
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Odin.Slore said: »
Shiroi, show me one crime that has anything to do with collusion....
You most certainly did NOT say anything about who colluded with with whom and for what. One crime? There were dozens. Manafort is guilty of collusion. Period. End of sentence.

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I quoted cnn man. How much more liberal can you get!?!?!
https://www.wonkette.com/

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-10-22 09:59:25
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
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Shiroi, show me one crime that has anything to do with collusion....
You most certainly did NOT say anything about who colluded with with whom and for what. One crime? There were dozens. Manafort is guilty of collusion. Period. End of sentence.

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I quoted cnn man. How much more liberal can you get!?!?!
https://www.wonkette.com/

You are welcome.

The only reason anyone even uses the word "collusion" in regards to Manafort is because they like the Pavlovian response. It somehow justifies in their head the whole Mueller investigation into Trump collusion, even though the charges that have come out of it have practically nothing to do with Trump. If a single word can connect those feel-good dots, then that connection most be defended even if it means using the most flimsy logic imaginable.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-10-22 10:03:02
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Manafort is guilty of collusion. Period. End of sentence.

/whoop-de-doo finger

wake us up when they drag trump away in chains, then we'll have a party.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-10-22 10:29:01
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Surveillance footage shows Saudi 'body double' in Khashoggi's clothes after he was killed, Turkish source says
CNN

TLDR: The Saudi team came prepared with a phony beard as well as a bone saw...
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Manafort is guilty of collusion. Period. End of sentence.

/whoop-de-doo finger

wake us up when they drag trump away in chains, then we'll have a party.

I heard they are going to tar and feather Trump but he will still win in 2020.
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By Nausi 2018-10-22 12:12:10
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FBI has admitted placing several spies in the 2016 Trump campaign.

(Confirming what we all knew to begin with)
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-10-22 12:13:57
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fonewear said: »
he will still win in 2020.

good luck explaining it to John Cleese

“I’m merely giving pointing out that Mr Trump is a sleazy, corrupt, egotistical and mendacious sociopath,” the actor wrote. “What I’m trying to understand is why Evangelicals approve of him.”

because banana john.... because banana.
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Invading army of migrants inches ever closly to the border. Who’s paying for them? Who’s buying the fuel, food, and water?
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