Bismarck.Aerison said: »
Are we sure it's counted towards save tp?
Its 2 save TP per OW merit or 10 for 99% of SAMs.
Tachi: Shoha
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Tachi: Shoha
Its 2 save TP per OW merit or 10 for 99% of SAMs. Overwhelm doesn't help you skillchain more, I think you're overestimating that 99% cause real SAMs set up self skillchains
Self SCs on what lol?
You're not self SCing on VW mobs where 4-5 other DD are spamming WS during procs, and who cares about anything else at the moment. Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Did anyone ever figure out how large the attack bonus is on this? Gobli says at least it's 35%. EDIT: Looking back again, I think my conclusion being "At most 45~50% attack boost" should be correct.
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Now admittedly SAM isn't my strongest job but wouldn't you be gimping yourself by WSing in relic +2 body? Would have thought AF3+2 body in TP and then ace's/avants/twilight or w/e for WS.
EDIT: Ah crap just seen that you can augment it with Overwhelm +4%, think this crosses into the realm of the unknown for me, disregard my post. It gives Save TP +10 on augment, easing up gearing for haste on TP phase, though the point is moot if you're looking how VWNM rolls.
Odin.Sawtelle said: » Sets i'm thinking about using(situations overwhelm is reliable like possibly new nyzul): tp: should be a 5hit if I mathed right.
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Bahamut.Vagrua said: » Odin.Sawtelle said: » Sets i'm thinking about using(situations overwhelm is reliable like possibly new nyzul): tp: should be a 5hit if I mathed right. Right, keep forgetting about those. Cerberus.Taint said: » 24 att (7acc if you need it) 2.5% hassoshin > crit+4% da+5%? seems like a miniscule amount of att when you're riding 1200+. So that leaves me wondering how much better the hassoshin can be at 2.5% (10%zanshin base) vs 4%crit and 5% da :/ Not sure if you can ride Stalwart or something similar in New Nyzul. Your atk might not be 1200+ most of the time.
gogo me not fully reading quotes :/
How much should be expect for total STR while using this WS? and I assume a tp bonus GK would be the best bet? bringing ftp from 2.375 to 3.15 at 100%. or
I am trying to compare this to Ruinator( 1hand axe merit ws ). Given good builds to both, doesn't have to be all HQ but reasonable good on both. Carbuncle.Xenhas said: » Cerberus.Taint said: » Its DA damage, TA TP. With SAMs high WS to TP spread anything that gains you TP faster is going to win out. Bored at work, check this out. Requires Shoha WS in Rajas,Saotome+2,Unkai+2 legs,Brutal 20.0 TP return. 16% Zanhasso = 21.2+21.2+28.6 = 71.0tp round + 20.0 Shoha + AF2+2a OW proc = 101.0 TP in 1 round. For Fudo swap Unkai back for Misuushi, same WS set Fudo = 18.4 TP return 15% Zanhasso = 21.5+21.5+29.1 = 72.1tp round + 18.4 Fudo + AF2+2a OW proc = 100.5 TP in 1 round 15% or 16% Instant WS. Carbuncle.Xenhas said: » 24 att (7acc if you need it) 2.5% hassoshin > crit+4% da+5%? seems like a miniscule amount of att when you're riding 1200+. So that leaves me wondering how much better the hassoshin can be at 2.5% (10%zanshin base) vs 4%crit and 5% da :/ Cerberus.Taint said: » Bored at work, check this out. Requires Shoha WS in Rajas,Saotome+2,Unkai+2 legs,Brutal 20.0 TP return. 16% Zanhasso = 21.2+21.2+28.6 = 71.0tp round + 20.0 Shoha + AF2+2a OW proc = 101.0 TP in 1 round. For Fudo swap Unkai back for Misuushi, same WS set Fudo = 18.4 TP return 15% Zanhasso = 21.5+21.5+29.1 = 72.1tp round + 18.4 Fudo + AF2+2a OW proc = 100.5 TP in 1 round 15% or 16% Instant WS. Asura.Xeth said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Cerberus.Taint said: » Bored at work, check this out. Requires Shoha WS in Rajas,Saotome+2,Unkai+2 legs,Brutal 20.0 TP return. 16% Zanhasso = 21.2+21.2+28.6 = 71.0tp round + 20.0 Shoha + AF2+2a OW proc = 101.0 TP in 1 round. For Fudo swap Unkai back for Misuushi, same WS set Fudo = 18.4 TP return 15% Zanhasso = 21.5+21.5+29.1 = 72.1tp round + 18.4 Fudo + AF2+2a OW proc = 100.5 TP in 1 round 15% or 16% Instant WS. Asura.Xeth said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Asura.Xeth said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Cerberus.Taint said: » Bored at work, check this out. Requires Shoha WS in Rajas,Saotome+2,Unkai+2 legs,Brutal 20.0 TP return. 16% Zanhasso = 21.2+21.2+28.6 = 71.0tp round + 20.0 Shoha + AF2+2a OW proc = 101.0 TP in 1 round. For Fudo swap Unkai back for Misuushi, same WS set Fudo = 18.4 TP return 15% Zanhasso = 21.5+21.5+29.1 = 72.1tp round + 18.4 Fudo + AF2+2a OW proc = 100.5 TP in 1 round 15% or 16% Instant WS. But oh well, it's going to be fixed anyway :/ (and I personally can't afford to merit Stardiver so no loss) Quote: Meriting WS for merit PT purpose Quote: 2012 Wait? Is it confirmed to be 5savetp for OW proc? I thought it was 10 savetp and Shoha was giving 20....
Pretty sure it's 10.
5 SvTP per hit, but they're going to nerf that according to "Known Issues"
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