Murasamemaru Hidden Effect
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Murasamemaru hidden effect
Well my eyesight was bad, not 2.9 then, lol, more like 2.65
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
still a pretty big difference >_>. Anyway, would be amazing on puddings in nyzul :3. shoha on pil for 231 is pretty low/ Maybe it has some element after all? (water?) or you have super underskilled gkt and no buffs at this pil?
Or perhaps there's a potentially large or scaling reduction, a la Formless Strikes.
Bahamut.Atoreis said: » shoha on pil for 231 is pretty low/ Maybe it has some element after all? (water?) or you have super underskilled gkt and no buffs at this pil? we haven't bothered to touch his SAM yet... he's BRD and THF onry. if shield up and other dd's were doing 0, any other gk would do 0 as well.
Bahamut.Atoreis said: » shoha on pil for 231 is pretty low/ Maybe it has some element after all? (water?) or you have super underskilled gkt and no buffs at this pil? It's underskilled, 386 including merits. Didn't use atmacites, no buffs and no food. It was just me and a Whm pretty much to test it out. I also used TP gear on the WS. Fenrir.Minjo said: » Or perhaps there's a potentially large or scaling reduction, a la Formless Strikes. Dont think so. Shoha on Pil should eb AT LEAST 1000-3000 if he did 231 and lets say he was super unbuffed and its 25% damage reduction like formaless then those 2900 on elemental is what? 11600? Dont think so... Siren.Stunx said: » if shield up and other dd's were doing 0, any other gk would do 0 as well. Bahamut.Atoreis said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Or perhaps there's a potentially large or scaling reduction, a la Formless Strikes. Dont think so. Shoha on Pil should eb AT LEAST 1000-3000 if he did 231 and lets say he was super unbuffed and its 25% damage reduction like formaless then those 2900 on elemental is what? 11600? Dont think so... We can go back to Pil if needed... but the ele seems like good enough evidence. jp friend telling me SE flat out said it the GK makes all WS no damage type, like twilight scythe hits.
Siren.Stunx said: » if shield up and other dd's were doing 0, any other gk would do 0 as well. I mean it could change it to some element like water and water would go through Pil shield but could be resisted? But i guess its possible to do 231 shoha w/o any buffs and with missing first hit... I think its safe to say water and rain have nothing to do with this weapon lol
Bahamut.Atoreis said: » Siren.Stunx said: » if shield up and other dd's were doing 0, any other gk would do 0 as well. I mean it could change it to some element like water and water would go through Pil shield but could be resisted? But i guess its possible to do 231 shoha w/o any buffs and with missing first hit... I didn't check TP return either, that could be it :x. Anyway, 231 through a shield is still non-elemental damage. If it was water on the shield it wouldn't go through, would it? Would that floor in Apollyon (the one where each floor has a specific weakness to a type of dmg) be a good area to test this things properties? Not only to see if the dmg inflincted on WSs isnt in fact slashing dmg but non elemental/associated with some element, but also, if there is any dmg reduction/scaling as well?
Bahamut.Caelestis said: » Would that floor in Apollyon (the one where each floor has a specific weakness to a type of dmg) be a good area to test this things properties? Not only to see if the dmg inflincted on WSs isnt in fact slashing dmg but non elemental/associated with some element, but also, if there is any dmg reduction/scaling as well? More can be done later if needed... I gotta get to the gym (*'-')b. MY JP friend said that if you trade the GK to the Mog in your MH that he will buy it and cap out your gil.
I just wanted to add a "MY JP friend" rumor. cept my "my jp friend" rumor has already been confirmed~
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you could test on the Urganite zone boss in Abyssea Grauberg. WS shouldn't heal him in either absorb mode.
Easy to pop, easy to tell right away Carbuncle.Xenhas said: » you could test on the Urganite zone boss in Abyssea Grauberg. WS shouldn't heal him in either absorb mode. Easy to pop, easy to tell right away Sounds like a plan, will try that after LS event the fact its been confirmed to work on elementals and pil's shield isnt enough lol?
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Siren.Stunx said: » the fact its been confirmed to work on elementals and pil's shield isnt enough lol? If it helps, I believe you. :) I like this test better b/c a) we will be able to see if the WS does scale down or not/does it have a dmg reduction of some sort but most of all b) this NM is water based, so we will be able to debunk if the elemental properity is water based or non-elemental for sure, though im pretty sure its gonna be non-e.
Shantotto expansion NMs should work for that too, will try them as well
Would be a somewhat interesting weapon for a couple of things if the effect is actually that. Not as good as it could be, but interesting nonetheless.
well, if it does work like this... then would it ignore defense completely? As in, would you have capped attack from the start and not need anything else? If so, Shoha might not do as well with it since it wouldn't be getting that attack bonus.
No, that isn't how these sorts of special properties work. They're not related at all to attack/defense.
Good to know, then.
Also wondering how it stacks up to TP Bonus Kanto and Masamune (85 and 90 I guess). Assume Mura would beat 85 Masa and 90 Masa would beat Mura, but since you can't 5hit Mura without uncapped haste, I'm not 100% sure. |
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