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Denali Bonnet vs. Walahra Turban (for DD)
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-11 20:20:20
PURPLE TOWEL OR GTFO!
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 20:22:18
Shiva.Sagagemini said: If i get a denali hat i will wear it even knowing its not the best piece for mnk. Can't stand that purple towel anymore. You heard it here, Shiva. Don't let this man join your nyzul 100s.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 20:23:22
By the way, those who call me an elitist, this is where I am actually one. If you can't afford a piece of gear, but know it's best, and work towards it, that's fine. When you go out of your way to be a piece of ***, you flat out suck. "Zomg denali hat looks cool I will wear it!"
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 20:24:52
Since you don't like black things (like turban) maybe the unfortunate day when you get a black belt, you will say "Hey, I don't like the color of this belt, I will wear the brown one instead!"
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-01-11 20:34:13
Wow...
Yeah, Walahra turban looks pretty bad, but not wearing an easily obtainable piece because of looks is really bad.
And Vegetto, I normally don't mind how you talk to people, perhaps I shouldn't of got so highly strung and pissy earlier.
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By Asura.Lordgenbu 2010-01-11 20:34:21
Fairy.Vegetto said: Since you don't like black things (like turban) maybe the unfortunate day when you get a black belt, you will say "Hey, I don't like the color of this belt, I will wear the brown one instead!"
*** lol'd
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-01-11 20:36:08
Fairy.Vegetto said: Since you don't like black things (like turban) maybe the unfortunate day when you get a black belt, you will say "Hey, I don't like the color of this belt, I will wear the brown one instead!" Lol'd heartily.
I agree with Vegetto: going out of your way to use the lesser piece is stupid. If you like it that much, wear it for town gear and use the turban when fighting, or .dat-swap if you're on a computer.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-01-11 20:37:22
The Walahra turban is just a necessary evil, We all have to put up with it looking like *** (the strap man... THE STRAP) but the damage it outputs makes up for looking like a gimp.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-11 20:39:45
I feel like Shakespeare when I wear my turban, and I write poetry of pain and violence when I'm wearing it.
oh yeah...
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 20:40:04
What strap?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-01-11 20:41:05
Fairy.Vegetto said: What strap?
It's... it's beautiful!
You made the evil go away!
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-11 20:41:32
Shiva.Flionheart said: Fairy.Vegetto said: What strap?
It's... it's beautiful!
You made the evil go away!
BRILLIANT!
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 20:56:46
I present the ultimate mnk build
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2010-01-11 20:59:56
Fairy.Vegetto said: I present the ultimate mnk build
There is a ??? Ring in that set? No wonder it is so amazing.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-01-11 21:00:20
The Novia just makes that set. A+, would lol again.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 21:00:55
Fairy.Azulmagia said: Fairy.Vegetto said: I present the ultimate mnk build
There is a ??? Ring in that set? No wonder it is so amazing. There is one, but that's not why it's a amazing. It's totally the denali and brown belt combo
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 21:01:24
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: The Novia just makes that set. A , would lol again. Don't want this friggin monster rippin hate all over the place, do we?
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2010-01-11 21:06:51
better be subbing war with that set up, am i right
who needs accuracy anyway...
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2010-01-11 21:06:54
Fairy.Vegetto said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: The Novia just makes that set. A , would lol again. Don't want this friggin monster rippin hate all over the place, do we?
It obviously allowed them to survive Apocalypse Nigh.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 21:08:41
Fenrir.Dascorp said: better be subbing war with that set up, am i right
who needs accuracy anyway... Wivre gorget, duh!
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-11 21:09:25
Light or Soil Gorget!!!
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2010-01-11 21:11:45
Fairy.Vegetto said: I present the ultimate mnk build
better sell that sea earring and get some decent ah gear
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 21:15:04
Fenrir.Dascorp said: Fairy.Vegetto said: I present the ultimate mnk build
better sell that sea earring and get some decent ah gear Nah, this stuff looks cooler dood!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-01-11 21:15:21
Someone from my Sky LS fulltimes an Amemet, fang earring and temple gloves.
fml.
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By Fenrir.Shambo 2010-01-11 21:16:33
vegetto would be like ***, use the walrus turban because of the extra haste %
this one time vegetto had this math formula of why haste is better than all the other crap the head piees give and if you think about it.
He's right.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 21:23:12
Shiva.Sagagemini said: I will wear Denali when I get it even though I know turban is better because [insert piss poor excuse here] *** the delete button
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-11 21:25:30
Fairy.Vegetto said: Shiva.Sagagemini said: I will wear Denali when I get it even though I know turban is better because [insert piss poor excuse here] *** the delete button
why would someone knowingly wear a piece of gear that is more inferior than a piece that is relatively easier to get?
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2010-01-11 21:25:37
most likely that mnk is full time mage, I dont see a rajas ring do you and he has Zilart/CoP done.
Also stop tping in freaking ethereal earring, leave it for nin/drk or pld tanking.... Hollow earring ftw
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-11 21:27:00
Fenrir.Dascorp said: most likely that mnk is full time mage, I dont see a rajas ring do you and he has Zilart/CoP done.
Also stop tping in freaking ethereal earring, leave it for nin/drk or pld tanking.... Hollow earring ftw He has rajas
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-01-11 21:29:52
I have lolearings, 2 corals atm... without sea access (finally got a static wooooooo) I don't think I can really do much better.
Man I've got lots to do when I get Sea...
I'm finally about to get kitty pants which is a bonus, Rajas ring isn't far off (still undecided about Lava's and Kusha's)
After that (seeing as I'm not going for salvage) the BB is the only item I really need desperately.
And that was completely off topic.
Purely based on damage, I think it's safe to assume that 1% haste > +3 attack (right?).
However, as all good DD know, sometimes you pull hate, if only for a moment, and the mob swings at you. Clearly, in that situation, Denali's defense benefits are pretty big. If you're dead, DoT tends to go down ...
So what should I be doing? Take a few endgame monk DD (non-chi) situations: birds merit, Kirin Zerg, sea/sky/limbus farming (non-god).
I've essentially just used denali for all DD situations in the last year, but now I'm thinking maybe that's not quite the right call. I now only use turban when I'm expecting to tank and need every drop of shadow speed, like Salvage or JoFaith.
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