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August 2026 Version Update
 Shiva.Thorny
Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4087
By Shiva.Thorny 2026-08-15 14:41:37
To someone in ambu gear, or even this new gear, it is. Someone in ambu gear or this new gear isn't clearing a V20, so it doesn't matter if they can enter it. Letting people enter is intended to build interest among the contingent of folks who have done Sortie or Limbus to get stronger gear but see Odyssey as too difficult or tedious without trying.
"In my day we had to travel through 10 feet of snow for our Ody clears. And were better for it." I'm not gatekeeping V0 clears. I'm saying that you make the gameplay loop worse by herding everyone straight toward top content and throwing away the stuff they could have worked through. You can get dozens to hundreds of extra hours of playtime that doesn't rely on partying with tryhards if you don't skip all of the older content. If you herd someone straight to Odyssey, that disappears because they will be too strong to find the content challenging or the rewards meaningful.
Some people benefit from that. If you're returning to a group of friends that want to carry you, cool. Getting carried will make you able to participate effectively in that group faster. That isn't everyone. I don't know why this is a hard concept. There is considerable gameplay value in doing older content while not overpowered for it: all of you *** did it when the content was new. If you haven't had fun with any of the content, why even play?
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By Dodik 2026-08-15 14:47:44
That older content is still relevant and needed. No one said anything about skipping it.
Getting them V0 doesn't do anything other than let them survive more.
It does sound exactly like gatekeeping. Why can't someone in V0 Ody armor farm Escha and UNM just like someone in stopgap gear.
Nor does getting them V0 mean they have to do daily sortie or tryhard V25s. A tiny percentage even bother with that stuff.
Shiva.Thorny
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Game: FFXI
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-08-15 14:52:39
Why can't someone in V0 Ody armor farm Escha and UNM just like someone in stopgap gear. Why can't someone with gamesharked lv99 pokemon farm and level a new team by hand?
They can. The reward scale has just been completely obliterated and nothing short of Sortie or Limbus feels relevant any more. Instead of making progress on each upgrade step of their AF, they see the piece as worthless until it's final. Instead of using a random piece of Escha or UNM gear until they get something better, they throw it in storage until it's +1ed and fully augmented (if they even do it).
Again, perfectly fine if the person has a group ready to help them catch up and run those events. Plenty of folks sitting near the top for a long time and still playing. A whole lot less fine if it's a noob who was told to buy a Sakpata clear and then has no knowledge or connections to do anything from there.
By Dodik 2026-08-15 14:54:50
"You don't get to have any fun until you rise up the ranks, young cadet."
The new stop gap gear is better than R0 escha and unm, so I'm not even sure what is your point anymore.
Shiva.Thorny
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Posts: 4087
By Shiva.Thorny 2026-08-15 14:57:12
"You don't get to have any fun until you rise up the ranks, young cadet."
Rising up the ranks is meant to be the fun part. I'll just have to be glad that SE understands their game better than the folks here. I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
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By Dodik 2026-08-15 15:00:07
You say that like I haven't lived it myself.
Fun was not how I would describe grinding two months for a set of ambu +2, before they changed the rewards from ambu.
I get it just fine. Every time SE makes it easier to obtain certain things that were once hard, malignance, ambu +2, i119 armor that doesn't suck, all the old vets start crying about progression paths and back in their day.
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-08-15 15:02:19
If you spent 2 months of your life grinding something you didn't consider fun, that reflects worse on you than the content. That's compulsive behavior.
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By Dodik 2026-08-15 15:20:23
That's compulsive behavior.
100%. Addictive and compulsive.
Parts were fun, and fun as a whole, but still, yes.
 Lakshmi.Buukki
Serveur: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-08-15 16:09:27
Debate ain't been out a full 24 hours and we already Candace Owening.
By Genoxd 2026-08-15 16:41:48
People keep mentioning reforge, do we have a link to where that came from? Event, talk, blog, whatever
By Nariont 2026-08-15 16:44:22
couple pages back, along with an interview i think from one of their talks where they mentioned these new filler pieces though i dont have any link for that, but less its a TL error they made it pretty clear itll be improved in some fashion
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By Seun 2026-08-15 16:53:26
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By Genoxd 2026-08-15 16:57:22
Awesome thanks
By Shichishito 2026-08-15 17:14:44
Beseiged has had 3-4? updates after the initial revamp to 119 and is still completely useless. I'm still hoping they do more with it, some sort of REMA from besieged or a REMA equivalent for body armor... something interesting and not copy paste design so I'm hoarding the points but I'm afraid it'll stay another present for multi boxers to have a quick and easy path to escutcheon materials.
Asura.Eiryl
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
By Asura.Eiryl 2026-08-15 18:01:32
Beseiged has had 3-4? updates after the initial revamp to 119 and is still completely useless. I'm still hoping they do more with it, some sort of REMA from besieged or a REMA equivalent for body armor... something interesting and not copy paste design so I'm hoarding the points but I'm afraid it'll stay another present for multi boxers to have a quick and easy path to escutcheon materials. Wouldnt hold my breath on that one.
Lakshmi.Buukki
Serveur: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-08-15 18:06:07
They've done everything they said they had planned (whether people like the implementation of it or not), so there's no reason to believe they wouldn't do the next step in reforge. Especially if they're looking for ways for players to progress towards malignance gear.
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By Seun 2026-08-15 18:28:14
This is just phase one. SE retrofit SoA with a NM system to reward fresh level 99 players with the base set of armor. That is the player who this content is meant for. It was never going to be useful on day one unless you are literally day one level 99. We should really only be comparing this gear to eminent/homestead level gear.
It makes a lot of sense if you approach from that angle. I don't think it's coincidental that these NMs are conveniently located in/on the way of/to SoA quests and missions. It's probably not coincidental that a lot of placeholders are also repeatable RoE objectives, so at least you can be productive while you're camping.
This feels a lot like when we talked people back from the ledge when empy +2 stats were revealed...
By LightningHelix 2026-08-15 19:08:23
We should really only be comparing this gear to eminent/homestead level gear. they said it was going to be a bridge between Ambu +2 and Malignance, so that's what we're comparing it to. hope that helps.
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By Seun 2026-08-15 19:35:13
We should really only be comparing this gear to eminent/homestead level gear. they said it was going to be a bridge between Ambu +2 and Malignance, so that's what we're comparing it to. hope that helps.
We're not there yet bruv. You start with the starter gear. You later will be able to challenge more difficult content to improve the gear so that eventually it's malignance adjacent.
The comparison isn't meaningful until we have the results. How much better and how hard do we squeeze to obtain juice? TBD
 Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-08-15 22:52:30
THEIR own words were this stuff would be better than Ambuscade equipment at base level.
By Seun 2026-08-15 23:23:24
Does it really make sense to you that basic NMs would drop gear on par with malignance? Why would the base armor be full strength if they've clearly stated that the gear needs to be reforged to improve?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-08-16 02:07:06
Dude, honest question:
Can you read??? Lol
By GetHelpNerd 2026-08-16 07:02:22
THEIR own words were this stuff would be better than Ambuscade equipment at base level. why does your argument casually ignore the defensive stats of the new sets?
Asura.Eiryl
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
By Asura.Eiryl 2026-08-16 07:21:15
Defense isn't dps and therefor doesn't count
but really, inyanga jhakri ayanmo are much better contextually than egbesu.
sulevia and flamma are generally better than UWU
hiza and mummu are better than lolrun
nzame is a flat out joke, no one needing the gear is doing shootie ranger or cor
piece for piece its not 100% true, hiza hands are turds for example and olorun are better than mummu
Egbesu is far better than mallquis, across the board, the one instance where their assertion is accurate. (elemental celerity contextually irrelevant)
When you assert "better" mallquis vs egbesu is what a person would reasonably expect. They should have stated, equivalent to ambu+2 not better. Situationally better situationally worse mix and match for the scenario.
By GetHelpNerd 2026-08-16 07:33:07
the player this gear is aimed at is likely in dire need of the defensive stats offered by this equipment.
the arguments i've seen in this thread for why this is such a bad addition to the game are some of the dumbest i've read on this forum and this forum has a lot of incredibly dense folks so that's pretty impressive.
By Meeble 2026-08-16 08:00:45
Defense isn't dps and therefor doesn't count
Oh come on. It's 2026, leave glass cannon DPS sets in the past where they belong.
Lower duration(or avoidance) of debuffs like stun, paralyze, amnesia,etc. are a direct DPS increase. Same with DT, 'cause, y'know, not getting one shot by a TP move is better for your DPS than the alternative.
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Asura.Eiryl
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
By Asura.Eiryl 2026-08-16 08:36:07
The best way to avoid debuffs is kill the mob faster.
The second best way to avoid debuffs is resist 60 times while tickling it to death.
None of these sets have what one would call "good magic evasion" regardless.
By GetHelpNerd 2026-08-16 08:38:24
Evasion +88
Magic Evasion +67
MDB +6
Damage Taken -31%
ruwa set compared to flamma. SIM has ruwa sets actually winning if full timed (as in used for WS and TP)
just stop posting its embarrassing
By Seun 2026-08-16 09:30:07
You are the wrong *** to be asking that question. lol
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2026-08-16 09:43:04
This will be the final update as everything as been found, armor with an asterisk* have 2 NMs that it can drop from. I got my revenge on Ironhide matamata, took 1hr to spawn + whatever the guy before me waited.
~Timed spawn NMs~ Chests last 3min, Respawns 15min after chest despawns
Yahse J-6 (Bivouac #1 NorthEast) Jolly Twitherym - ruwa hands + egbesu feet
Ceizak H-9 (Bivouac #1 South) Feral Chapuli - ruwa head + olorun hands
Foret H-11 (Bivouac #3 South on beach) Spellward Orobon - ruwa legs* + nzame hands
Morimar H-5 (Bivouac #5, climb down, then NorthEast) Spellward Ameretat - olorun head + ruwa feet
Yorcia H-9 (Bivouac #2 NorthWest) Voracious Rafflesia - egbesu hands + olorun legs*
Marjami G-7 (Bivouac #4 down past Reive then East) Elusive Stryx - olorun feet + nzame head*
Kamihr G-8 (Bivouac #3 West and wrap around) Fierce Yztarg - nzame feet + egbesu head
~Lotto spawn NMs~ Spawns can take up to 1-2hrs~
Foret J-7 (Frontier Station South) Ironshell Craklaw - olorun body + ruwa legs*
Morimar E-7 (Bivouac #4 North) Ironhide Matamata - nzame legs + olorun head
Yorcia J-10 (Bivouac #2 East) Ravenous Snapweed - olorun legs* + nzame body
Marjami L-12 (Bivouac #1 South) Swiftwing Tulfaire - nzame head* + egbesu legs
Kamihr I-11 (Bivouac #2 South Ravine) Keenfang Raaz - ruwa body + egbesu body
NM by armor: (Going to stea.. add this from Nynja)
-Ruwa
HD: Feral Chapuli @ Ceizak
BD: Keenfang Raaz @ Kamihr (lotto)
HN: Jolly Twitherym @ Yahse
LG: Spellward Orobon @ Foret && Ironshell Craklaw @ Foret (lotto)
FT: Spellward Ameretat @ Morimar
-Nzame
HD: Elusive Stryx @ Marjami && Swiftwing Tulfaire @ Marjami (lotto)
BD: Ravenous Snapweed @ Yorcia (lotto)
HN: Spellward Orobon @ Foret
LG: Ironhide Matamata @ Morimar (lotto)
FT: Fierce Yztarg @ Kamihr
-Egbesu
HD: Fierce Yztarg @ Kamihr
BD: Keenfang Raaz @ Kamihr (lotto)
HN: Voracious Rafflesia @ Yorcia
LG: Swiftwing Tulfaire @ Marjami
FT: Jolly Twitherym @ Yahse
-Olorun
HD: Spellward Ameretat @ Morimar
BD: Ironshell Craklaw @ Foret (lotto)
HN: Feral Chapuli @ Ceizak
LG: Voracious Rafflesia @ Yorcia && Ravenous Snapweed @ Yorcia (lotto)
FT: Elusive Stryx @ Marjami
Added closest warps for reference, easiest access
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