New Trust System - Who Will You Upgrade First?

I mean... that's not the meaning of the word "nerf".
It's used for something that used to be good say "10" and after a change it becomes good to a level of "8".
That's a "nerf", a reduction in the performance of something compared to the previous situation.
But that's not the case for Monberaux?
He just is going to gain less compared to other trusts, but it's not like Monberaux's performance was better than it is with the new system compared to before, so I wouldn't say "nerf" is the right word to use here?

It was exactly the same situation with the previous system, the ilevel you gained through several aspects (the Trust +ilevel system or the Odyssey exclusive MM system) had the same exact behaviour than the new system.

SE developed a habit of nerfing jobs, that they think are too strong, by leaving them out of gear upgrades. If this is intentional then this would be the trust version of this approach.

like truth by omission isn't a lie

Every healer but you gets an upgrade, it's not a nerf, it's a downgrade by omission

Still far and away the best though

If they want to help casual players (which they are supposedly doing with these trust changes), a big starting point would be to make reraise easier to get. From a ring or earring similar to warp ring (in acquisition and function)

The reraise ring is already in the game, just make it easier to get (and maybe lower the recast time)

Curio sells two forms of Reraise, ambuscade gives you one for free, you can buy a scroll for nation points, Grounds Of Valor offers it for cheap points, and there's a level 90 necklace that gives Reraise 3 for 10 uses. All of these are easily obtainable. Not even a real problem, more fake outage.

Scroll of instant reraise3 from Imperial Standing Accolades is stupid cheap as well

by this logic they should take warp rings out of the game, cause you can buy a warp scroll from there too?

No because they are not always in your inventory, you don't have to remember to get one reraise from the curio moogle before you do anything. A reraise ring from conquest points, with unlimited uses and a 1 hour recharge is not going to break the game, but it will make he game less obnoxious.

Dying is punishment enough, they don't need to also have a home point and leave area norm at this point.

Reraise items are for solo players, if you're in a group the healers already have it up.

there are so many ways to get reraise.. this one is so offbase its unreal

radial really not beating the allegations that he's an ambuscade only free month player

A ring from the mog tablets and White Rarab Cap +1 have reraise, unfortunately on a ~20 hour cooldown. Mog tablets is quite a bottleneck though and I'm not sure if there are similar items for rr2 and 3.


Nah, he has a point. The constant back and forth to merchants for stuff like reraise and warp is annoying and it's extra annoying when you notice you forgot to restock after entering the instance.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Reraise_Ring
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Wh._Rarab_Cap_+1
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Reraise_Hairpin
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Reraise_Earring
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Reraise_Gorget


People use warp rings way way way more often than they use reraise items.

The difference is that travel is common everywhere, so having a ring that is ready every 10 minutes just improves the experience of traveling faster, quicker. You do not die as frequently in this game as a solo player to require more than one or two forms of Reraise, which you may or may not even need. If you do die, you just go get another one? This is not a major inconvenience for casual or lower level players. On the contrary, it would for sure be a convenience for people like myself who always keeps an Airmid's Gorget or Raphael's Rod on myself because losing ML/EP is annoying. Or other players who forget Reraise in critical events.


There's a couple of other items I didn't mention because there's several ways to Reraise yourself.

There's actually way more RR items I forgot about.

The items with charges aren't a great solution imho cause it's just as easy to forget about how many charges are left than it is to pick up another reraise scroll.

20 hour cooldown on those items is overkill, should be ~1 hour. Too much to use it multiple times in the same instance but it should be ready again when you need it in the next event imho.

there's also just 2 meds that are also sold from the same place you get a scroll, you really shouldnt have any problems getting and holding onto item based RR of all things unless you're dying constantly which seems more like a strategy issue


Idk about you but I try to always have rr on any job i go to unless its something where i gotta swap subs around like ambu JA resets(can't actually remember if RR is one of the buffs that gets wiped or not). Mistakes happen and ***hits the fan, having only the healer with rr slows everything down considerably when they gotta waste time/mp getting everyone else back up

I shouldn't even be entertaining this still because it's so ridiculous and I fell for the troll, but I forgot that nearly every event that has temp items (Besieged, Escha, Voidwatch etc) just throws in 1-2 forms of Reraise for the user. There's gotta be like a dozen and a half ways to RR yourself, you have to go out of your way to not apply RR to yourself; A ring wouldn't encourage the player to apply RR to themselves anymore than they already do/don't.

They are desperately trying to attract and keep ff14 players, on ff14 if you die / wipe you spawn again at the start.

They should make it easily possible to always have reraise up, the sources of rr are made to add resistance and they need to stop doing that. For instance you have to remember to get a scroll from curio etc and you can only hold 1. As I said there is in theory no reason not to remove warp ring, cause you can get a warp scrolls and they are by the home point (so every time you use one, get another).

There is no need for this, it's just making the game obnoxious for no reason. Let people get a reraise if they are casual / solo.

I would argue that monsters in content should not aggro either after raising if they are passive (make weakened state = no aggro), but they won't do that cause of how much work it would take.

This I would support, but not as a blanket rule, but in places like Omega/Ultima Limbus basements where you can just die from a gyve totally off screen with no mention of it in the log and then have no way of getting back up safely. Attach a Reraise to Grace effects while in CN fights, though there's already RR gear you could idle in so if dying constantly is an issue, you could idle in Annointed Kelasiris and Twilight/Crep gear.

However, knowing SE, they will not give a buff without making a catch. They would say something like "You are immune to aggro and are passive from AOE effects, however, you are exempt from Rewards and cannot be supported until this status wears off." They did something similar when they removed EXP loss from Ambu deaths. They almost never give out benefits for free.

This is even worse since they broke tractor in those areas?

idk if its been fixed.

I didn't realize it was

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58447/limbus-2025/75/#3776029
I mentioned it in January.

I think one person also confirmed the issue but I cant find their post.