Bahamut.Bojack said: »
Does the title for entering the Mog Garden only count 1 entry per day?
That and pond/coast titles are 1000 real life days to finish. Hurray.
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Yup That and pond/coast titles are 1000 real life days to finish. Hurray. I started a new mule recently and can add more weight to Aery's conclusion that there's a required playtime or account age to get mastery rank increases. My XIC total on the mule is around 1000 and I'm still rank 1, but only 4 days playtime.
If one exists, playtime would be the only one, no one assumes otherwise
No one would realistically be higher than a rank 1 their first week. Literally no one is getting walled off from rank 9 cause of playtime. Maybe it is the playtime that prevents me from ranking up to Rank 7?!
I got 6 more species to lv60 today and grabbed 1 additional job instinct(only 2 job instincts left), still Rank 6. My playtime is 255 days. If anyone got Rank 7 with less playtime, please inform me, otherwise I’ll chill out a bit. 255 is so much higher than I would expect for a playtime threshold, but I can't disprove anything.
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so I should grind this new account waaaay higher on roes/titles/skills/etc to see if I can get MR6->7 before 255?
challenge semi-accepted. it's gain exp o'clock right now. edit: thinking about this more, I can confirm that I had MR6 before 100 days of playtime, so it'd be really weird for the next gate to be over 255... but. square enix
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: » 255 is so much higher than I would expect for a playtime threshold, but I can't disprove anything. (and I'm sure not gonna do it!) I have characters that are a thousand days old who have done literally nothing except genkai
And I still can't really figure out where the line for rank 2 is A B and C are "functionally identical" but some are rank 1 some are rank 2 3x99 ~2k combat skill M40 zero spells zero trust zero quests (unlocked cor) rank 1 3x99 lower combat skill M20 zero spells zero trust zero quests rank 2 5x99 3k skill M40 geo spells blm spells rdm spells no trust no quests (geo) rank 1 Their only differences would be homepoints survival guides waypoints, sometimes I just don't hit them the same. Was trying to pay "super close attention" to the last one; 10x99 M100 5000 combat/magic 30 trusts, they just recently got rank 2 and I missed it! I have 2 alts that i'm just doing the bare minimum for dyna d, ody c and limbus access that are still rank 1. Play time is 87 days and that's cuz I afk in town.
I (might have) had a conversation with thornyy about it. Since he makes characters enmass and they're literally identical, to try to figure out where the exact moment they hit rank 2 was
But he either didn't feel like it or I only thought about asking and never actually got around to it. The main reason I am so on about a limiter at low playtime is because since hitting Rank 5 I have done over 170 missions (120 of them Campaign Ops), 180+ quests and got over 170 titles, and did over 330 RoE. This includes 16~ AF quest lines, an Aeonic, WSNM/trials, and hitting 3 Legend ranks in Coalition alone. By all accounts I've done a huge chunk without seeing a rank up - to the point that I am edging in on Rank 7 people here.
Frankly, I suspect it may be Rank 6 is at 75 days. Not sure. I am going to keep pushing things. I'll be adding another 100 or so to the count today or tomorrow I suspect. AeryBahamut said: » The main reason I am so on about a limiter at low playtime is because since hitting Rank 5 I have done over 170 missions (120 of them Campaign Ops), 180+ quests and got over 170 titles, and did over 330 RoE. This includes 16~ AF quest lines, an Aeonic, WSNM/trials, and hitting 3 Legend ranks in Coalition alone. By all accounts I've done a huge chunk without seeing a rank up - to the point that I am edging in on Rank 7 people here. Frankly, I suspect it may be Rank 6 is at 75 days. Not sure. I am going to keep pushing things. I'll be adding another 100 or so to the count today or tomorrow I suspect.
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My advice to people wanting to achieve mastery rank 7 is to do every story mission, expansion and addon-scenario: Nation Missions x3 (Sandy, Bastok, Windy), RoZ, CoP, WoTG x3, RoV, TVR, ACP/Kupo Detat/etc.
Of course, if someone wants to do everything else without story missions to see how far they get, then by all means, be my guest. :) Felgarr said: » My advice to people wanting to achieve mastery rank 7 is to do every story mission, expansion and addon-scenario: Nation Missions x3 (Sandy, Bastok, Windy), RoZ, CoP, WoTG x3, RoV, TVR, ACP/Kupo Detat/etc. Of course, if someone wants to do everything else without story missions to see how far they get, then by all means, be my guest. :) I finished A Moogle Kupo d'Etat Missions and it gave me rank 7. I was stuck at rank 6 for over a year. I hate the Addon scenarios with a passion.
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Unless the weight is +30-40% of each of the three main counts for one rank then something seems a bit problematic to me. Let's do a rough comparison to Toralin who is Rank 7. I have more titles, more RoE. For Obysuca who is Rank 6 and nearing Rank 7, again, by every category I am ahead. It is not a conclusive proof one way or the other, but to be ahead of established Rank 6 and even some Rank 7 - weight has to matter on some titles a huge amount or something is off.
Personally, my weakness is NM titles - I have at least 30 more NM titles for Abyssea to do and a lot of atma to get. Though I am chipping away at those. Just to be clear I did all the mission lines, only Campaign Ops remains on that side. I got a bunch of Aht Urghan and Abyssea quests left though. I finished all story missions before I was even Rank 6.
I remember getting Rank 6 in March by getting a HTMB title, and I checked my stream recording and found out that I had 628 RoE completed during that ding to 6. My current RoE count is 912, so I did 284 additional RoE, gained around 170 titles, and Medal of Altana, and a bunch of Monstrosity since rank 6. I finished the last Abyssea NM title today, and I will finish the remaining 2 or 3 Voidwatch NM title that I haven't done. It really feels like I just need to do a bit more to rank up to 7 for the past few days... This is not complete because I have to run around and check a ton of things - since I do not use add-on, but here is my minimums. I am not counting the uncounted RoE, or atma enrichment (+500~) or my monstrosity which is a significant chunk, or any of the other stuff that is not counted by the tool (such as Armor Upgrades/Salvage armor, Sky teleports) or a bunch of the other stuff like some KI items issues because my list is different than the tracker by a significant amount. With said stuff I should be into the 7400~ range.
I'd like to see fame captured and reported on in the XIChecklist tool.
The Fame checker NPCs are listed here. One thing I had toyed with, but never got beyond talking to people online years ago about, was identifying the "fame value" for each quest. I think I was speaking to private server devs who were working on that goal- apologies for not remembering their names, I assume this was for LSB. To that end, a famecheck.lua was made. I really don't recall what it did, just that it seemed like it did something. If this is all useless code, do forgive my memory, as this was 5 years ago. To run this, grab generic_helpers.lua, parse_action_packet.lua, and statics.lua from Battlemod addon as well as this famecheck.lua Code require 'tables'
require 'sets'
file = require 'files'
config = require 'config'
require 'strings'
res = require 'resources'
require 'actions'
require 'pack'
require 'generic_helpers'
require 'parse_action_packet'
require 'statics'
_addon.version = '0.01'
_addon.name = 'FameChecker'
_addon.author = 'Anonymous'
_addon.commands = {'fame','famechecker'}
ActionPacket.open_listener(parse_action_packet)
windower.register_event('incoming chunk',function (id,original,modified,is_injected,is_blocked)
if debugging then windower.debug('incoming chunk '..id) end
------- ACTION MESSAGE -------
if id == 0x34 then
local m = original:unpack('H',0x08 +1); -- event param 0
print(string.format(m));
end;
end)
When ran, it dumps to the console an extracted data value. I had thought that this showed an ever increasing fame value post quest completion, but I just did Flint Stones in San d'Oria and the count just seemed to increase on each NPC interaction regardless of quest completion.. However, the Fame NPCs seemed to work a bit differently. I saw a static value of 2500 for Rank 9 characters in Rabao/Sandy. Most of my chars are all capped from ancient content, so this was expected. I took my chars to Eastern Adoulin and checked my fame there, and I saw the following: Char A: Rank 9 Fame, addon value: 139 Char B: Rank 2 Fame, addon value: 14 Char C: Rank 7 Fame, addon value: 75 Char D: Rank 2 Fame, addon value: 13 Char E: Rank 2 Fame, addon value: 16 Char F: Rank 9 Fame, addon value: 117 Char G: Rank 6 Fame, addon value: 66 I figure if there is a time and place to bring this back up, it'd be here and now. I hope this helps! Interesting if Fame is actually not capped when it reports Rank 9!
AeryBahamut said: » This is not complete because I have to run around and check a ton of things - since I do not use add-on, but here is my minimums. I am not counting the uncounted RoE, or atma enrichment (+500~) or my monstrosity which is a significant chunk, or any of the other stuff that is not counted by the tool (such as Armor Upgrades/Salvage armor, Sky teleports) or a bunch of the other stuff like some KI items issues because my list is different than the tracker by a significant amount. With said stuff I should be into the 7400~ range. That would put you at about 1300 more than where I was when I first ran xicheck. I've been rank 7 since the update that adjusted the ranks a year or two ago (maybe more I haven't played much since then) and I was missing: two 99 jobs BRD and RNG all of the Bastok missions, past and present, no more than 10 campaign ops, a handful of survival guide and homepoint warps, roughly half of the AF quests and every Maat fight besides the SMN, RUN and GEO. I had roughly over 500 ROEs and 600 titles. Roughly half of all quests. I only had one craft at 110 (cooking) with the rest sitting at 0 or 10. Never touched chocobo digging though I have raised a chocobo. five monsters at or above 30 in monstrosity, half of the ergon. I did dabble in pankration back in the day but I doubt that matters. Things of note that I did have were completing all the current (at the time) battle content, my REMAs, finished the Ygnas directive, and the first 3 Master Trials. I'm not V25 everything odyssey but I did have everything V15 with random V20s and V25s sprinkled in (V20 Bumba kill but I can't spawn him). I was also missing a decent amount of VD HTMB kills. I'm thinking either battle content matters more or you're gated by missing something like all Wave 3 Dyna D clears, an OU kill, Tumult Curator kill, X number or REMAs or 1 of each, X number of Master Trials, or X number of VD HTMB clears. Also check old content like Kirin, AV, PW, I imagine you have their titles already with the number you have but it doesn't hurt to be sure. Also Legion which I forgot existed. Wrt accomplishments, congrats, Aery! Very impressive.
The remaining spells (except trusts) should be easy to collect and the active effects can mostly be soloed at this point. What is your playtime? Littleflame said: » Also Legion which I forgot existed. AeryBahamut said: » This is not complete because I have to run around and check a ton of things - since I do not use add-on, but here is my minimums. I am not counting the uncounted RoE, or atma enrichment (+500~) or my monstrosity which is a significant chunk, or any of the other stuff that is not counted by the tool (such as Armor Upgrades/Salvage armor, Sky teleports) or a bunch of the other stuff like some KI items issues because my list is different than the tracker by a significant amount. With said stuff I should be into the 7400~ range. With all due respect, I think your (and a lot of other people here) weakness is actually playing the game/doing battle content. I have no idea how many titles I have, probably very few as I've never chased a title in my life. There are loads of spell categories I've not/barely touched, I don't have all jobs 99 and haven't merited over half of them (I haven't even unlocked all of them). I've never checked for maps I'm missing, HPs I haven't touched, I have no idea how many permanent KIs I have, zones I've visited, and I've only done quests that were relevant for their reward. I have a total of 395 RoE done. ...and I'm mastery rank 7. By coincidence/accident. I feel like a lot of people get obsessed with chasing menial nonsense that counts for like .0001% of a mastery rank and ignore massive heavy hitters.
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I think that might be a bit backwards. You have cleared most of the master trials (iirc) and have done a ton of battle content, but you are only rank 7...
My mule hasn't done much impressive. I only do content with him for access, so he has entered sortie, for instance, only when my group needed a GEO or WHM to do a run. He's rank 7. Rank 7 isn't hard to hit anymore. A main having rank 7 despite playing as much as you is almost an accomplishment in itself. Lakshmi.Byrth said: » I think that might be a bit backwards. You have cleared most of the master trials (iirc) and have done a ton of battle content, but you are only rank 7... My mule hasn't done much impressive. I only do content with him for access, so he has entered sortie, for instance, only when my group needed a GEO or WHM to do a run. He's rank 7. Rank 7 isn't hard to hit anymore. A main having rank 7 despite playing as much as you is almost an accomplishment in itself. Look at the guy I'm replying to though. He has done hundreds and hundreds more titles, collected more spells, has more KIs, hundreds more ROEs, and all those things I listed out, and he's rank 5. And you just re-stated my point. Doing battle content gains you tons of points and doing *** like collecting titles, ROEs, spells, and completing quests does *** all. Sure, it's "necessary" at some point. In order to hit 8/9, you'll eventually need to do stupid ***like do 1,000 MMM and 100,000 brown mage things, complete nonsense ROEs, collect odd titles, kill random NMs, and whatever other tiny boosts you can get. You should probably do the big stuff before you spend 50 hours hunting a title, 2 hours on a quest, or an hour doing some random RoE for collecting beetle jaws. Is Odyssey Vengeance levels one of the “heavy hitters”?
I only did V0 on T3,T4 for the base gear, and I don’t have a group to do higher difficulties. Yeah, but I guess my point is that the growth is exponential. You're rank 7? Great. You've accumulated maybe 2/3 as much mastery rank as rank 8 and probably less than half as much as rank 9. That doesn't prove battle content is superior to also doing missions and title farming (idr Aery saying they didn't do battle content, after all), but that it's possible to somehow have a crafting shield and master trial clears while only being rank 7.
Mastery rank can be used for Hoxne earring (btw, you're missing 10 stat), but it's intended to be a barometer of how completely you have played the game. It is for completion and title farming. "Hey I can halfass it and get a halfass result that I still like" isn't exactly news. Lakshmi.Byrth said: » That doesn't prove battle content is superior to also doing missions and title farming (idr Aery saying they didn't do battle content, after all), but that it's possible to somehow have a crafting shield and master trial clears while only being rank 7. I guess you could read the post then? Quote: -Sheol A (?/20) -Sheol B (?/31) -Sheol C (9/11) -Sheol Gaol Vengeance (?/425) -Craft Skills 365/790 Quote: With said stuff I should be into the 7400~ range. I guess 7400 is / 12167? You'd think he'd be higher than rank 5 then, right? He's chased hundreds of titles and done hundreds of quests. He's got thousands of these points everyone is collecting. Not to keep ragging on this one individual, it's not really about him, it's just the most recent and relevant example. Tons of people collecting RoEs, titles, quest completions, spell lists, and maze runes, and other periphery stuff. Lakshmi.Byrth said: » You're rank 7? Great. You've accumulated maybe 2/3 as much mastery rank as rank 8 and probably less than half as much as rank 9. I don't care about mastery rank, in case that wasn't already abundantly clear. I only provided my stats as a counterpoint to the idea that farming tons of minor content is the way to rank up. Maybe once you've got nothing else to do it's a good checklist to go off of. I don't think it's a good starting point. Ultimately it doesn't matter, play however you want to, just trying to bring up a point of comparison. I'm not gonna collect all these silly data points to compare made-up points with other people, but there's a lot of very obvious contrast there and very different results. The character in question has cleared 3 master trials, FWIW.
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I mean, I'm rank 9 with only v0 clears on t3 and bumba gaol nms, and like no moogle mastery
He only has like 700 titles, so I'm gonna place my 1 gil bet and say he doesn't have all 3 beastman king titles or one of the wyrms or something that stand out as potentially "more important". We've seen quite a few people rank up from those when they think they should have been higher to begin with I think you guys have forgotten something important....  
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