Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You mean the same thing you did about Trump?
No, I don't mean the same thing. I am not mischaracterizing his words. He walked back his words at a later date.
A more apt comparison would be Hillary's deplorables comment.
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No, I don't mean the same thing. I am not mischaracterizing his words. He walked back his words at a later date. A more apt comparison would be Hillary's deplorables comment. So much hyperbole I can't tell who is more full of ***...it's a tough call !
Nazis here Obama greatest president ever over there and Trump eating tacos on a gold plate way over there.
We've hit a new low ladies and gentlemen
Stuff could happen it probably won't but it could ! So everyone panic ! I never said Obama was the greatest president. Just like I never said GWB was the greatest president.
But I also don't go around comparing either of them to tinpot dictators.
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Ramyrez said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » None of the fears you have with Trump will ever come to light, because of the way this country is set up. In order for Hitler to do the things he wanted, he had to first destroy/take over the German parliament. Which he did. The point isn't "will it happen?" It's extremely unlikely. The point is the president elect of the US is using Nazi policies to draw voters and it worked. They also liked to over-dramatize everything. Hope and Change you can believe in!
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Ramyrez said: » But I also don't go around comparing either of them to tinpot dictators. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Ramyrez said: » But I also don't go around comparing either of them to tinpot dictators. No I *** didn't. I joked about it with Nik's response and you launched into your hur-hur-hur we've had eight years of it already thing. Asura.Kingnobody said: » So did Obama. What, precisely, Nazi propaganda did BO use again? Ramyrez said: » The point is the president elect of the US is using Nazi policies to draw voters and it worked. Holy crap, enough of this. The point of why comparing things to Nazis/Hitler is so unreasonable is it's an intellectually deficient way of approaching an argument. Q: Who's the worst person you can think of? A: Hitler Q: Who are you automatically going to draw connections to when you don't like someone? A: Hitler It's confirmation bias. Even with the most insidious interpretation of Trump's proposed (and retracted) registry, it had little to do with why Nazis kept registries. Even if the proposal could be determined to be unconstitutional or *gasp* bigoted, it was based on a desire for national security. It wasn't a desire to systematically deny rights and eventually eradicate all "inferior beings".
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Ramyrez said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » So did Obama. What, precisely, Nazi propaganda did BO use again? Here's your argument again Ramyrez said: » The point is the president elect of the US is using Nazi policies to draw voters and it worked. I guess I should have elaborated to state that Hitler's rhetoric and dramatic prowess is the same methods Obama used. You are confusing policies with propaganda again. Bahamut.Ravael said: » It's confirmation bias. Even with the most insidious interpretation of Trump's proposed (and retracted) registry, it had little to do with why Nazis kept registries. Even if the proposal could be determined to be unconstitutional or *gasp* bigoted, it was based on a desire for national security. It wasn't a desire to systematically deny rights and eventually eradicate all "inferior beings". Because I'm sure that's how it started before. Exactly like that. You know for a guy who supposedly was elected on so many American values and principles it's amazing how people are willing to let him piss all over them.
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The only real way to compare Presidents is comparing them to other Presidents it's a novel concept indeed.
Asura.Kingnobody said: » I guess I should have elaborated to state that Hitler's rhetoric and dramatic prowess is the same methods Obama used. You are confusing policies with propaganda again. I'm really not. You're being pedantic to try to get out of being wrong, which is your kind way of reminding people an argument is over with you and you're just going to harass people with semantics until they say something mean to you so you can complain to the mods.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » Even if the proposal could be determined to be unconstitutional or *gasp* bigoted, it was based on a desire for national security. I'm speaking generally here, btw.
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are, not is.
Damn you Rooks! Don't make me a Grammar Nazi here! Asura.Dameshi said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Even if the proposal could be determined to be unconstitutional or *gasp* bigoted, it was based on a desire for national security. I'm speaking generally here, btw. We gave up morals and ethics a long time ago they got in the way ! Asura.Dameshi said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Even if the proposal could be determined to be unconstitutional or *gasp* bigoted, it was based on a desire for national security. I'm speaking generally here, btw. You aren't supposed to bring discussion to this thread, you are supposed to ban people you don't agree with just on that premise! Rooks! You aren't teaching your mods right again! Asura.Dameshi said: » I'm speaking generally here, btw.
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Ramyrez said: » Because I'm sure that's how it started before. Exactly like that. Yeah, and they both started as babies. Exactly like that. First they start walking, then they start talking, then they murder 6 million people.
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Ramyrez said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » I guess I should have elaborated to state that Hitler's rhetoric and dramatic prowess is the same methods Obama used. You are confusing policies with propaganda again. I'm really not. You're being pedantic to try to get out of being wrong, which is your kind way of reminding people an argument is over with you and you're just going to harass people with semantics until they say something mean to you so you can complain to the mods. ...let's just end this. Asura.Dameshi said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Even if the proposal could be determined to be unconstitutional or *gasp* bigoted, it was based on a desire for national security. I'm speaking generally here, btw. I never said it was correct. I'm pointing out how stupid it is to Godwin over it.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » Ramyrez said: » Because I'm sure that's how it started before. Exactly like that. Yeah, and they both started as babies. Exactly like that. First they start walking, then they start talking, then they murder 6 million people. Yes, please. Continue with flippant answers to discredit what I'm saying. Don't admit to yourself that we elected a guy because we placed money over his very flawed, very problematic policies on everything else. Asura.Kingnobody said: » It's one thing that Person A is in a situation where they are in between jobs and/or learning new skills for the next big job, it's another if they choose to live that life. I'm all for taxing those who choose to live at or around the poverty line. That might be incentive enough for them to get out of poverty, or at least attempt to.
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Ramyrez said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Ramyrez said: » Because I'm sure that's how it started before. Exactly like that. Yeah, and they both started as babies. Exactly like that. First they start walking, then they start talking, then they murder 6 million people. Yes, please. Continue with flippant answers to discredit what I'm saying. Don't admit to yourself that we elected a guy because we placed money over his very flawed, very problematic policies on everything else. Don't change the subject. I've been aware of Trump's flaws from Day 1. Logical fallacies are bad. You're better than that. Phoenix.Xantavia said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » It's one thing that Person A is in a situation where they are in between jobs and/or learning new skills for the next big job, it's another if they choose to live that life. I'm all for taxing those who choose to live at or around the poverty line. That might be incentive enough for them to get out of poverty, or at least attempt to. It's an easy solution stop being poor. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Asura.Dameshi said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Even if the proposal could be determined to be unconstitutional or *gasp* bigoted, it was based on a desire for national security. I'm speaking generally here, btw. You aren't supposed to bring discussion to this thread, you are supposed to ban people you don't agree with just on that premise! Rooks! You aren't teaching your mods right again! Bahamut.Ravael said: » Asura.Dameshi said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Even if the proposal could be determined to be unconstitutional or *gasp* bigoted, it was based on a desire for national security. I'm speaking generally here, btw. I never said it was correct. I'm pointing out how stupid it is to Godwin over it.
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Ramyrez said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Ramyrez said: » Because I'm sure that's how it started before. Exactly like that. Yeah, and they both started as babies. Exactly like that. First they start walking, then they start talking, then they murder 6 million people. Yes, please. Continue with flippant answers to discredit what I'm saying. Don't admit to yourself that we elected a guy because we placed money over his very flawed, very problematic policies on everything else. People were apparent against his policies, even those on the same party. He didn't win because of that. (Not saying he didn't get votes because of that, I'm saying that was not a driving force in his victory) He won because it was a testament against politicians and the liberal "elite" who ignore everyone that doesn't fall in their "preferred" category. You are basically stating that all Trump voters are racist because Trump won.
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