Random Arguments & Strawmen #15
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Random Arguments & Strawmen #15
Economically speaking, copper would an even better choice as copper prices has been generally on the rise whereas gold and silver prices haven't been doing all that well. A push for new construction will possibly see the price go even higher. If we are to begin repairing our infrastructure, surely copper is a safe choice. (I tried...)
Asura.Dameshi said: » This is a politics and religion thread. Not a jump on each other's throats thread. So basically don't do the latter and you're golden. Asura.Dameshi said: » Economically speaking, copper would an even better choice as copper prices has been generally on the rise whereas gold and silver prices haven't been doing all that well. A push for new construction will possibly see the price go even higher. If we are to begin repairing our infrastructure, surely copper is a safe choice. (I tried...)
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Day trading is a good way to get rich, then get poor, then blow your last wad of cash on a steak dinner and booze before you off yourself.
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Speaking of, do we have any proof that something similar isn't what happened to Chaos?
I'm actually genuinely concerned for him. Wait, wait, wait. *burps* Okay, it wasn't genuine concern, it was just gas. But I'm still curious. Asura.Dameshi said: » Economically speaking, copper would an even better choice as copper prices has been generally on the rise whereas gold and silver prices haven't been doing all that well. A push for new construction will possibly see the price go even higher. If we are to begin repairing our infrastructure, surely copper is a safe choice. (I tried...) where are you getting your info on copper going up? it lost 1.15% today all my info has all precious metals in the downward trajectory.
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Because it's common knowledge that the 1% wealth owners pay 45.7% of all federal taxes. They own 35% of all US wealth (according to you), but they pay 45.7% of all federal taxes, according to multiple sources (IRS included). That's not how it works and you know it. You are being taxed on your income and not your wealth. Shiva.Nikolce said: » Asura.Dameshi said: » Economically speaking, copper would an even better choice as copper prices has been generally on the rise whereas gold and silver prices haven't been doing all that well. A push for new construction will possibly see the price go even higher. If we are to begin repairing our infrastructure, surely copper is a safe choice. (I tried...) where are you getting your info on copper going up? it lost 1.15% today all my info has all precious metals in the downward trajectory. Don't blame the slowpoke for being slow. Ramyrez said: » Day trading is a good way to get rich, then get poor, then blow your last wad of cash on a steak dinner and booze before you off yourself. Oh hey, 25k posts now~ The topic is abortion: You are either pro abortion or anti abortion no grey area !
Pick one you cowards ! fonewear said: » The topic is abortion: You are either pro abortion or anti abortion no grey area ! Pick one you cowards ! Actually Jill Stein's campaign is anti man and anti women. So you could say she is a anti human blood hungry "being" seeking to destroy...
fonewear said: » The topic is abortion: You are either pro abortion or anti abortion no grey area ! Pick one you cowards ! Well I'm trying to curtail our numbers so the lizard men have as easy a path to victory as possible, so I guess I'm pro-abortion. Also pro-birth control, pro-hysterectomies, pro-vasectomies, pro-Plan B, and anti-***-for-Jesus/Allah.
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Ramyrez said: » fonewear said: » The topic is abortion: You are either pro abortion or anti abortion no grey area ! Pick one you cowards ! Well I'm trying to curtail our numbers so the lizard men have as easy a path to victory as possible, so I guess I'm pro-abortion. Also pro-birth control, pro-hysterectomies, pro-vasectomies, pro-Plan B, and anti-***-for-Jesus/Allah. So I'll put you down as pro choice then... fonewear said: » So I'll put you down as pro choice then... I'm sorry, where did I insinuate I was leaving the option open for birth!? I'm anti-life.
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eliroo said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » This is a mathematical fallacy and makes no sense. How? I don't see how its a mathematical fallacy at all, nor how it doesn't make sense. You can explain. You said that the top 1% that owns 35% of the wealth should pay 35% of the taxes. For starters, you don't pay taxes on wealth. If we backtrack and assume you mean income, not only would the numbers be different you seem to suggest that the share of taxes should be 1:1 proportional to the share of income, and the only realistic way to do that would be a flat tax rate for everyone and I kinda doubt that's what you were going for. As it stands, your argument doesn't make sense.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » eliroo said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » This is a mathematical fallacy and makes no sense. How? I don't see how its a mathematical fallacy at all, nor how it doesn't make sense. You can explain. You said that the top 1% that owns 35% of the wealth should pay 35% of the taxes. For starters, you don't pay taxes on wealth. If we backtrack and assume you mean income, not only would the numbers be different you seem to suggest that the share of taxes should be 1:1 proportional to the share of income, and the only realistic way to do that would be a flat tax rate for everyone and I kinda doubt that's what you were going for. As it stands, your argument doesn't make sense. His mistake is that he used that group's average tax rate (24.7%) to declare unfairness, which in turn shows that that group has more investment income (dividends, capital investments, etc.) that is taxed at a lower rate (23.8%) than ordinary rate (as much as 43.4%). I could also throw a monkey wrench in the works and address AMT, but I believe that would go way above his head. fonewear said: » The topic is abortion: You are either pro abortion or anti abortion no grey area ! Pick one you cowards ! well as a man, I will never have to make that decision... unless some super progressive liberal scientists develop some sort of ray gun that.... and as a conservative I can't think of anyone worse to make that decision for others... than the federal government... But I think as a society we can come to some sort of an agreement... killing babies that can survive outside the womb is pretty horror show and condoms/day after pills are no problemo the sticky wicket is the how many weeks is too many... while we are deciding someone develop an app that detects pregnancy at the moment of conception.
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Because it's common knowledge that the 1% wealth owners pay 45.7% of all federal taxes. They own 35% of all US wealth (according to you), but they pay 45.7% of all federal taxes, according to multiple sources (IRS included). That's not how it works and you know it. You are being taxed on your income and not your wealth. So what did you mean? I stated that they paid almost half of all federal taxes in a year. You should be going after him for making such an easy mistake, not me. But you seem to like to attack my points (and only my points, nobody else's) constantly for some reason..... Shiva.Nikolce said: » fonewear said: » The topic is abortion: You are either pro abortion or anti abortion no grey area ! Pick one you cowards ! well as a man, I will never have to make that decision... unless some super progressive liberal scientists develop some sort of ray gun that.... and as a conservative I can't think of anyone worse to make that decision for others... than the federal government... But I think as a society we can come to some sort of an agreement... killing babies that can survive outside the womb is pretty horror show and condoms/day after pills are no problemo the sticky wicket is the how many weeks is too many... while we are deciding someone develop an app that detects pregnancy at the moment of conception. Don't say that they are working on that as we speak... Shiva.Nikolce said: » someone develop an app that detects pregnancy at the moment of conception. Accept the quest: =>yes =>no
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I've heard rumors of some city in California that is super liberal...that in fact think that driving a Prius will save the world no less !
Shiva.Nikolce said: » Asura.Dameshi said: » Economically speaking, copper would an even better choice as copper prices has been generally on the rise whereas gold and silver prices haven't been doing all that well. A push for new construction will possibly see the price go even higher. If we are to begin repairing our infrastructure, surely copper is a safe choice. (I tried...) all my info has all precious metals in the downward trajectory. Asura.Kingnobody said: » His news come from 2012, when copper prices were skyrocketing at the time. Don't blame the slowpoke for being slow.
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