There's really no reason for anyone to get so uppity over this. It's quite simple really: If you use it, fine. If you're skeptical, try it (you can always delete it if it's not your cup of tea). If you hate it and think it's cheating, STFU. Nobody deserves to be alienated by someone else's self-absorbed, arrogant, moral high-horse riding ***.
/goes to look for Jaerik's famous post regarding this.
Windower is illegal under the Terms of Service. FFXIAH.com is illegal under the Terms of Service. So is Allakhazam, so is Killing Ifrit, so is using any site, tool, or program not written by SquareEnix that decompiles, references, or in any way republishes any of SquareEnix's intellectual copyright, including any and all item, character, or mission data. Even posting screenshots is against the Terms of Service, unless taken via the in-game screenshot feature which watermarks SE's copyright over the top. Writing any fan fiction, derivative works, roleplaying, etc, is all against the Terms of Service. Letting any other player log into your account, ever, for any reason, is a violation of the Terms of Service.
I could go on. The point is, every single one of you, everyone, is or has violated the ToS at some point. Not a single one of you, especially none of you posting on this site (read: especially Luignata), has any right whatsoever to accuse any other user of "breaking the rules." Period.
The only thing that matters is money. SquareEnix reserves the right to ban you for a ToS violation, but they are not required to, and they won't waste their time (or money) enforcing it unless it makes business sense to do so. In other words, the only thing that matters is if a particular 3rd party utility is causing more people to quit the game than continue playing it. It is the duty of 3rd party developers, and users of 3rd party tools alike, to not make SE lose money.
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Jaerik said:
Nobody cares, and neither does SE. Go whine somewhere else.
The fear of banning has caused me to use the windower sparingly. The fear has lowered over the years as more people use it.
been running it for 4 years,the only ppl that know i actively use windower are in my vent channel, and every single of them use it too, cept for the ps3 user running vent via his laptop lol
i died logging into my 360 last time bad graphics no plug-ins D:< no spellcast for all my .xml macros, limit to 6 lines on RDM and BLM, fail no distance for kite soloing on rdm no infobar for knowing what aggros and what they aggro too no treasure pool profiles for certain areas no expwatch for quick tnl access no recast/buff/food timers no .dat swapped in game maps no timestamp for afk NM ToD's
There's really no reason for anyone to get so uppity over this. It's quite simple really: If you use it, fine. If you're skeptical, try it (you can always delete it if it's not your cup of tea). If you hate it and think it's cheating, STFU. Nobody deserves to be alienated by someone else's self-absorbed, arrogant, moral high-horse riding ***.
/goes to look for Jaerik's famous post regarding this.
Not tryin' to get "uppity" on anyone; all I'm sayin' is it "Grinds my Gears" when someone's vagina gets all sore over being confronted with the fact that using plug-ins is cheating.
The fear of banning has caused me to use the windower sparingly. The fear has lowered over the years as more people use it.
been running it for 4 years,the only ppl that know i actively use windower are in my vent channel, and every single of them use it too, cept for the ps3 user running vent via his laptop lol
i died logging into my 360 last time bad graphics no plug-ins D:< no spellcast for all my .xml macros, limit to 6 lines on RDM and BLM, fail no distance for kite soloing on rdm no infobar for knowing what aggros and what they aggro too no treasure pool profiles for certain areas no expwatch for quick tnl access no recast/buff/food timers no .dat swapped in game maps no timestamp for afk NM ToD's
There's really no reason for anyone to get so uppity over this. It's quite simple really: If you use it, fine. If you're skeptical, try it (you can always delete it if it's not your cup of tea). If you hate it and think it's cheating, STFU. Nobody deserves to be alienated by someone else's self-absorbed, arrogant, moral high-horse riding ***.
/goes to look for Jaerik's famous post regarding this.
Not tryin' to get "uppity" on anyone; all I'm sayin' is it "Grinds my Gears" when someone's vagina gets all sore over being confronted with the fact that using plug-ins is cheating.
That's fair, as long as you can admit that "cheating" is subjective and falls under as an opinion.
Poor Barti, it's a gift and a curse, I mean, easily the most awesome avatar known to man...but if he ever changes it the lynch mob is gonna burn his house down.
Poor Barti, it's a gift and a curse, I mean, easily the most awesome avatar known to man...but if he ever changes it the lynch mob is gonna burn his house down.
Poor Barti, it's a gift and a curse, I mean, easily the most awesome avatar known to man...but if he ever changes it the lynch mob is gonna burn his house down.
Double edged sword ; ;
WE'D BURN HIS HOUSE DOWN!
LOL exactly, I mean, Kungfu here has been just WAITING for an excuse...
Whoever thinks windower is "cheating", get off this website >.> It's no different than being able to see in game info, while off game.. Also, windower is a convenience, anyone that can perfectly remember a recast timer, or can just look at a mob and tell distances and is very skilled, can do the same thing a windower can... If you think its "cheating" then don't install ANY plugins, and I can almost guarantee it will still at least be smoother than the SE windower.. which gave me a drop in frame rate so bad, it only lasted about 5 seconds for me.. That's all I can say =/
I find it a waste of time trying to defend using something not native to the game, and expecting all people to agree that it's ok.
Doesn't matter how many people use it, it's still something third-party made. Enough trying to justify it lol.
Easiest thing is to just start being honest and say "I have an advantage over some". Personally, I enjoy smart work instead of hard work (the plugins).
There's really no reason for anyone to get so uppity over this. It's quite simple really: If you use it, fine. If you're skeptical, try it (you can always delete it if it's not your cup of tea). If you hate it and think it's cheating, STFU. Nobody deserves to be alienated by someone else's self-absorbed, arrogant, moral high-horse riding ***.
/goes to look for Jaerik's famous post regarding this.
Not tryin' to get "uppity" on anyone; all I'm sayin' is it "Grinds my Gears" when someone's vagina gets all sore over being confronted with the fact that using plug-ins is cheating.
As per above title, do u use the windower? I personally use the SE windower because i simply couldnot play the game otherwise. /logout everytime i wanna do anything is well meh at best. I see others here use aftermarket windower aswell, is it like better or something? I assume that is how yall are able to take SS with chatlogs open. I also see distance and xp/hr addons?
Is this program allowed? I would assume it is not because it is not from SE and i read about bans for it. I came to game after windower was already there so i know no difference.
Is it that much better? Do people actually get caught? Do you get banned? I personally find the SE windower rather unstable and choppy. If it is lowrisk mabe its worth lookin into?