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Forefront Animator any good?
Serveur: Bahamut
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By Bahamut.Mizucallow 2013-07-09 22:59:58
hey does anyone know what rank you need to buy this and if it is any good? I went to the person and couldn't see it on the list. Can anyone tell me anything about it?
Cerberus.Pleebo
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-07-09 23:13:26
No one has it yet because the new bayld item NPCs haven't been unlocked yet.
Shiva.Gib
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By Shiva.Gib 2013-07-09 23:35:42
I'm sure it's not that great, it's probably there for the people that can't do delve
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By Bahamut.Mizucallow 2013-07-09 23:55:19
which is a lot of people I'm sure it's not that great, it's probably there for the people that can't do delve
Which is a lot of people
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By Bahamut.Mizucallow 2013-07-09 23:56:29
I'm looking for better than the Turbo, Deluxe, and +1 but just under Alternator so I can have something to use til I can do delve.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-07-09 23:56:40
Bahamut.Mizucallow said: »which is a lot of people I'm sure it's not that great, it's probably there for the people that can't do delve
Which is a lot of people
how is it a lot of people?
By nyheen 2013-07-10 18:13:55
looks to be a lvl 106 item so it going to be a NQ verison, while the alternator is the HQ. not bad at all. since most dont have the plasma,KI the bayld way will be nice to have. it gonna be the same like the smn one
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2013-07-11 10:28:38
I can get the plasm but I don't have the KI for Alternator. Argh!
By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-11 14:00:44
Bahamut.Mizucallow said: »which is a lot of people I'm sure it's not that great, it's probably there for the people that can't do delve
Which is a lot of people
how is it a lot of people?
People really don't get not all servers are a like and some really really blow for na players.....
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-07-11 14:03:18
Bahamut.Mizucallow said: »which is a lot of people I'm sure it's not that great, it's probably there for the people that can't do delve
Which is a lot of people If you can't do delve, what are you even doing on the game?
I mean unless you play one hour a week or something, everything else, especially at this level, can be done in a relatively short amount of time
Unless you just log in and do dyna once a day for the fk of it, then log off w/o doing anything else.
By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-12 12:55:36
Actually on some servers shouts go on for hours trying to make a run its pretty shitty can't get enough peeps or the right jobs...
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-12 13:05:50
Bahamut.Mizucallow said: »which is a lot of people I'm sure it's not that great, it's probably there for the people that can't do delve
Which is a lot of people If you can't do delve, what are you even doing on the game?
I mean unless you play one hour a week or something, everything else, especially at this level, can be done in a relatively short amount of time
Unless you just log in and do dyna once a day for the fk of it, then log off w/o doing anything else.
Coincidentally this is exactly what I was doing for like two months. I don't bother to even do that anymore, but yeah there are people like that.
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Bismarck.Rosalee
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By Bismarck.Rosalee 2013-07-12 13:06:53
Bahamut.Mizucallow said: »I'm looking for better than the Turbo, Deluxe, and +1 but just under Alternator so I can have something to use til I can do delve.
Since they changed how the pet levels work (for PUP it's now tied directly to the animator's item level,) this is your best bet for exactly that.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2013-07-13 00:48:18
Alternator V.S. Forefront Animator
Wonder which would pull Forward :X
Let us know plz.
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By Asura.Daemonarch 2013-07-13 01:34:23
Is there a bayld version of the smn ammo too?
Valefor.Darrtt
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By Valefor.Darrtt 2013-07-13 01:49:13
I imagine it will be just like the smn item. Bayld version item level 106 and delve version item level 113~116, cant remember which.
Alternator will still be the best.
Kujata.Sirus
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By Kujata.Sirus 2013-07-13 09:39:11
Bahamut.Mizucallow said: »which is a lot of people I'm sure it's not that great, it's probably there for the people that can't do delve
Which is a lot of people If you can't do delve, what are you even doing on the game?
I mean unless you play one hour a week or something, everything else, especially at this level, can be done in a relatively short amount of time
Unless you just log in and do dyna once a day for the fk of it, then log off w/o doing anything else.
There are people with different focuses. Tons of players have come back and simply aren't even ready for delve yet. They have to go through all the hoops, finishing cop; limit breaks; the whole shebang.
Then there are the people who do not have 75 mil gil to spend on collecting wins.
Then there are people who aren't on servers like Asura.
And then there are people who log in to talk to others and socialize.
Plenty of reasons.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-07-13 11:10:28
Quote: They have to go through all the hoops, finishing cop; limit breaks; the whole shebang.
So, they take a couple of days? and the only reason it's not 1 is because of jp midnight ***.
Again, what the *** else are they doing?
Quote: And then there are people who log in to talk to others and socialize. Didn't know you couldn't socialize and do events.
Quote: Then there are the people who do not have 75 mil gil to spend on collecting wins. Where do you need 75m to START devle? I'm not talking about megabosses, you should at least be able to farm the damn place for plasm though
So the only actual reason was missions/limit breaks, which can be done in a very short amount of time. So then what when those are done? lol
Kujata.Sirus
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By Kujata.Sirus 2013-07-13 11:51:42
Everything aside, trying to say that the only reason to play this game is for delve alone is just stupid.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-07-13 12:36:36
True, but not doing it at all is also stupid, unless you've gotten all the gear you want from it, then don't feel like doing it anymore.
but walking around with ***gear, saying "omg the forefront isn't out yet what do I do?" is also just as stupid.
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By Siren.Taruina 2013-07-13 12:39:30
He obviously cannot do Delve content. Just drop it.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-07-13 12:42:46
He obviously cannot do Delve content. Just drop it. OP has scholar, don't see why not.
Phoenix.Libbien
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By Phoenix.Libbien 2013-07-13 12:54:58
Even with sch, the OP can't farm plasm solo. It takes an alliance to effectively farm plasm even without doing NMs. Given the relatively small population these days, plasm farm shouts can take an hour to fill and possibly more... some people aren't interested in investing that much time into sitting around waiting to see if a plasm group can fill or not, leaving the bayld option a bit more appealing. Don't assume everyone plays as much as you or plays with the same priorities as you, it's shortsided.
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By Sylph.Dasanuffadat 2013-07-13 15:09:01
If it follows SMN it will be lvl 106. SMN has a bayld ammo which is 106 and its plasm ammo is 113. Alternator is 113 too iirc which is why I'm sure Forefront is 106.
Edit: And as for farming plasm. He has PUP so he could just farm the shards up, eat em for plasm. Only take around 200 of them to by the Alternator. Ya it'll take a while but it's a possibility. Can then just buy airlixirs to upgrade stuff.
By darthmaull 2013-07-13 15:33:33
Farm plasm? Dasanuffadat check your inbox. Also, its is shortsighted to think that everyone can do delve or can even get a decent alliance together to farm plasm on every server.
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Bismarck.Ealdwalf
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By Bismarck.Ealdwalf 2013-07-14 11:23:57
Forefront = mini-animator
+47 stats
50ish% increase to damage given and 2/3ish-1/2ish taken on mandies outside of town, very small sample and with whm pet.
Noticed increased accuracy as well, maybe evasion as well
By nyheen 2013-07-14 11:28:02
Bismarck.Ealdwalf said: »Forefront = mini-animator
+47 stats
50ish% increase to damage both given and taken to mandies outside of town, very small sample and with whm pet.
Noticed increased accuracy as well, maybe evasion as well
this. tested. it SEX. if you dont got the devle one. this one is useful:)
By Synria 2013-07-22 12:20:27
This thing is great if you don't have Alternator. 47 all stats and up to +68 in a stat depending on maneuver. :D
By Luvbunny1 2013-07-22 12:25:03
Is there a bayld version of the smn ammo too?
Yes for 30k bayld at the inventor coalition, talk to the big galka inside. It is a very decent upgrade, good to have when you don't have delve plasm version. The level 106 item will make most Abysea NM miss your avatar all the time, and your avatar damage see a huge spike. Add the staff from reive - and you can spike the damage quite a bit. I would assume the delve version will be far superior, though the reive version will make your aby farming experience far much easier so you can gear your other jobs.
hey does anyone know what rank you need to buy this and if it is any good? I went to the person and couldn't see it on the list. Can anyone tell me anything about it?
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