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Let's Talk Fishing!
Carbuncle.Shokox
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Posts: 633
By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-09-01 18:21:55
Anyone got a good moonphase (time) to fish for Matsya?
Asura.Fondue
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-09-01 18:23:49
63% waxing watersday from 4:00-4:03 gametime right after the Golden badgers withdraw for retreat from Jigaboids warmachines
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Siren.Calnus
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By Siren.Calnus 2012-09-01 18:30:30
63% waxing watersday from 4:00-4:03 gametime right after the Golden badgers withdraw for retreat from Jigaboids warmachines i lol'd so so much XD
Quetzalcoatl.Khrnos
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Posts: 210
By Quetzalcoatl.Khrnos 2012-09-01 18:35:47
I always try to go on fullmoons but not because it seems have any significant impact but more because there will be other people there with their mules to hold mobs.
I do not notice much difference in break rate; it might have some affect on the bite rate but I haven't payed too much attention. My rate averages close to 1 fish per 5 baits regardless of moonphase. But like I said I only go on fullmoons now because there's people to hold mobs for me so my stats are probably a bit skewed.
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2012-09-01 19:26:38
Go at full moons as well for the same reason, but last moon I seemed to line break a very noticeable amount less with the full moon compared to later in the day without it. I went 20 Matsyas to 75 bait with moon and then it ended and I got 5 in the next 50 or so, with 14 line breaks in a row. Bite rate seemed maybe marginally higher with moon, but nothing noticeable, this could have been just luck, but since it takes time to gather bait, I'm fine with planning around full moon to fish them up, 0/40 thus far, gonna compile some bait for the full moon Monday night!
Edit**
Zaldon can eat a bag of ***
Carbuncle.Shokox
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-09-01 23:22:30
Thought as much on the full moon bit. Thankfully it sounds like it's not terrible from you guys accounts.
Phoenix.Suji
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By Phoenix.Suji 2012-09-02 07:24:19
Carbuncle.Templite said: »
enough to make it clear. i'll leave it to others to test as well, but i'm not wrong. I don't see why you'd be elusive about your data if you're confident enough to state it as fact.
Carbuncle.Vidian
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By Carbuncle.Vidian 2012-09-02 07:56:25
1/392 Lik! There is still hope :D
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Phoenix.Darkzeru
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Posts: 1420
By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-02 15:11:11
Im under the assumption Opal Silk no longer exist :/
Think im about 0/400
Now to see how imma get some more gil
Don't have many friends who can fish some up for me lol
Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora
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Posts: 34
By Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora 2012-09-02 16:25:24
^ :((( That sucks so hard Darkzeru, im sorry. I have just started working on the KIs myself, 0/64 gugs and 0/16 liks :P
Siren.Calnus
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By Siren.Calnus 2012-09-02 16:27:56
I feel real hard for people who go into the 400+... 150 felt like a sack of crap resulting in the attempted murder of that fat *** galka.
I will be attempting to fish some crocs and gugs later on here in a bit :X Funnnnnnnnnnn
Phoenix.Darkzeru
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-02 21:57:32
Seeing that I bought all mine
Provided that i generally bout them for 25-30k
About 10-12mil on lik alone xD
Siren.Calnus
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By Siren.Calnus 2012-09-02 22:01:45
Yeah i commissioned Kalilla at 25k per fish and asked her to do 100 in bulk for me so 2.5M per zaldon trip. Luckily he put out half way through the second order for me.....
I can't imagine blowing 10-12M on lik >_< 5M felt bad enough and got a 1.5M return which i blew on 39 gugs and got jack from it lol.
I finished Lushangs and SHOULD soon get serpent rumors in the next 2-3 days depending how stupid the guild wants to go on GP items... I do want to fish my own gugs if it can be helped.
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Phoenix.Darkzeru
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-02 22:05:42
Eh I had nothing i needed to buy so couldn't be helped :P
Im still in Good Hopes as I'd hope I could get the money back over time....
As for Lu shang I end up buying it (4.8 mil)
I think i was 2K Moat carp until I thought bout it...
Lets see...
If 2 chars fish moat carp all day...
That's 400 a day
2800 a week
So i'd get all 10k in about 3.5 weeks....
OR....just spend the 4-5 mil in a day and probably could get that 4-5 mil back within that 3.5 weeks lol
I got Saber Shoot by Gugs by only spending lil over a mil....i wanna say 1.5 mil
Siren.Calnus
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By Siren.Calnus 2012-09-02 22:19:59
Probably why your having horrible lik luck... law of averages :| Also LuShangs is up to 8M on siren and i easily see it hitting 9-10M on next few sales. I had 3 characters able to fish moats nonstop and it only took me a week and a half to finish with minor buying to boost the daily count sufficiently. Casual 2 hours or so each day total.
I'm at 86,000/95,000 on serpent rumors... tomorrow is veteran so about another 5k but the next few days are the novice ect sections that are like 1-2k for a few days :\ Want my damn serpent rumors so i can start catching my own gugs ; ;
Phoenix.Pooman
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By Phoenix.Pooman 2012-09-02 22:27:07
Probably why your having horrible lik luck... law of averages :| Also LuShangs is up to 8M on siren and i easily see it hitting 9-10M on next few sales. I had 3 characters able to fish moats nonstop and it only took me a week and a half to finish with minor buying to boost the daily count sufficiently. Casual 2 hours or so each day total.
I'm at 86,000/95,000 on serpent rumors... tomorrow is veteran so about another 5k but the next few days are the novice ect sections that are like 1-2k for a few days :\ Want my damn serpent rumors so i can start catching my own gugs ; ;
I've never paid attention to the guild patterns on this site, but how accurate is it? Is it sure to be veteran rank fish tomorrow and crap the next couple days?
Phoenix.Darkzeru
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-02 22:27:22
O wow :o
That's Server inflation for you...
I have Serpent Rumors but seeing that im 84.....and don't have albatross doubt ill catch many w/o a WW friend near by xD
I caught maybe 5 gugs and broke the damn thing like 4 times xD
And don't let me start with the line breaks lol
Glad i wasn't using an expensive bait lol
Phoenix.Darkzeru
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-02 22:29:43
I've never paid attention to the guild patterns on this site, but how accurate is it? Is it sure to be veteran rank fish tomorrow and crap the next couple days?
There was perhaps 1 time i can recall where what was said on here was the wrong fish....
Seems very accurate with my experience with it on Cooking and Fishing
Phoenix.Pooman
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By Phoenix.Pooman 2012-09-02 22:42:21
I've never paid attention to the guild patterns on this site, but how accurate is it? Is it sure to be veteran rank fish tomorrow and crap the next couple days?
There was perhaps 1 time i can recall where what was said on here was the wrong fish....
Seems very accurate with my experience with it on Cooking and Fishing
Sounds good. Thank you.
Siren.Calnus
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By Siren.Calnus 2012-09-02 22:51:03
I leveled woodworking to 75 specifically for that reason lol, And I just managed to snag TWO albatross rings for myself with kalilla and her boyfriend yesterday. We still have 1 more run to do so they get their second each as well.
Sadly I plan to pass my lushang off to my mule after i complete ebisu. Maybe after mule gets ebisu someday after a long break from zaldon >_> I may sell finally.
EDIT: Also the guild patterns on here are 90% of the time dead on and if there are enough errors reported by users it will be corrected later on.
Carbuncle.Templite
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By Carbuncle.Templite 2012-09-02 23:04:53
Carbuncle.Templite said: »
enough to make it clear. i'll leave it to others to test as well, but i'm not wrong. I don't see why you'd be elusive about your data if you're confident enough to state it as fact.
i didn't keep it accurately from day to day and didn't want to make up numbers. this is thousands of hakuryu on 2 identical characters, 1 with shawl 1 without. i really think theres no mistake considering what happened over the couple weeks i was trying to figure this out.
if you look back and read the last few pages of this thread you'll see i was on a wild goose chase trying to see why my 110 fishing mule was having more success on hakuryu than my decked out fishing main. day after day if 1 character is using 70 minnows and catching 150-160 fish and the other is using 70 minnows and catching around 70 fish, something is obviously wrong. take off my shiny new shaper's shawl, which i planned to use as a trophy piece for my fishing outfit, and voila, problem solved. this was not a result I was hoping for or expecting.
it kinda ruined the cape for me as far as idle town gear, but that's mostly cus i tend to idle in fishing gear ;p
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By Carbuncle.Snoochybooch 2012-09-02 23:25:04
Carbuncle.Templite said: »Carbuncle.Templite said: »
enough to make it clear. i'll leave it to others to test as well, but i'm not wrong. I don't see why you'd be elusive about your data if you're confident enough to state it as fact.
i didn't keep it accurately from day to day and didn't want to make up numbers. this is thousands of hakuryu on 2 identical characters, 1 with shawl 1 without. i really think theres no mistake considering what happened over the couple weeks i was trying to figure this out.
if you look back and read the last few pages of this thread you'll see i was on a wild goose chase trying to see why my 110 fishing mule was having more success on hakuryu than my decked out fishing main. day after day if 1 character is using 70 minnows and catching 150-160 fish and the other is using 70 minnows and catching around 70 fish, something is obviously wrong. take off my shiny new shaper's shawl, which i planned to use as a trophy piece for my fishing outfit, and voila, problem solved.
You have no idea how much he complained about this ingame ;-)
Phoenix.Pooman
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By Phoenix.Pooman 2012-09-02 23:36:41
How people fish 150~ Hakuryu in a single day is beyond me. Even assuming you used a bot that would not stop fishing, wouldn't it still take all day long?
Carbuncle.Templite
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By Carbuncle.Templite 2012-09-02 23:52:18
that's precisely the direction i didnt want the topic to flow, but the numbers are scalable. if u took 30 minnows out to the glacier and only caught 30 haks with them, you might notice
Phoenix.Darkzeru
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-03 02:07:03
Welp...looks like 0/440 lik now :P
By Xavierr 2012-09-03 02:17:01
1/1 Shaper's Shawl haters go hate somewhere else plz >.>
Leviathan.Komachii
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By Leviathan.Komachii 2012-09-03 03:46:50
anyone else had problems sleeping the monsters in vunkerl?
Had a friend come sch to save me some baits, and after a few sleeps they started to resist lasted like a few seconds, in the end had her come dnc which worked nice.
Quetzalcoatl.Kouryuu
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Posts: 206
By Quetzalcoatl.Kouryuu 2012-09-03 04:35:43
How people fish 150~ Hakuryu in a single day is beyond me. Even assuming you used a bot that would not stop fishing, wouldn't it still take all day long?
I know very few people that fish manually, in all honesty the only reason i do is because i no longer have a bot. But i have seen people in the glacier for days at a time, was a guy on Quetz until the early part of this year had his main and 2 mules out there 24/7 and another 2 mules he would have camped at the guilds for lures.
Over the last year or 2 fishing to me has become less and less profitable simply because if i am at the pc i can make more by doing vnm or farming than i ever can fishing manually. And i only know 2 people that fish manually and thats only because they are trying for the Shawl.
Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora
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By Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora 2012-09-03 05:23:20
Welp im just a baby fishermen but I fish manually, and will always do so, so there's three :P
And uh *was* a guy? I think you meant *there are lots of guys*... lol
Quetzalcoatl.Kouryuu
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Posts: 206
By Quetzalcoatl.Kouryuu 2012-09-03 06:27:31
im talking about 1 in particular lol, there is still one that has like 4 alts all fishing but one in particular disappeared around january so did all his mules. Fishing manually is ok, but fishing in my opinion is only profitable if you bot and do it while afk. gil is to easy to make in other ways these days. i fish now for the cape, its a challenge thing.
There are fishing topics that come up now and then but mainly are asking a question for a single answer. I know there are many fishers that visit these forums so this is an attempt to get people involved and have a little fun discussing one and only one thing, fishing!
I know Blue Gartr has a Fishing topic already, but I would like to see this community get involved a little bit and talk, since not everyone visits BG. I would love to have a topic just for fishers including veteran fishers, casual fishers, and even players just starting out and want to ask a few questions without being embarrassed about starting a whole topic for a simple answer they could not find.
I only ask that you keep any bot talk to a minimum, preferably none. [Moderator edit: No bot talk] I want this to be a place where we can discuss anything from GP items of the day to what lure/bait to use or what area is best. A quick mention of how you're doing on the lu shang/ebisu quest, how you're doing getting your fishing items from Grounds of Valor, that item you're saving your GP up for, or how much you wish you could hurt Zaldon for not finding anything in your fish for the 10,000th time. Your lucky moment streaks and the moments when you have nothing come your way and question why you started fishing in the first place. Anything that comes to mind, think of it as the random thoughts thread for fishing.
I will list a few resources that I find to be useful when it comes to fishing: BG Fishing Topic
Great Blue (Amazing Site <3, is out dated since 2008 but an amazing resource regardless)
Final Fishing (Another great resource with one of the most in-depth guides made. Out of date though.)
Fish Size Chart [ GE][ Wikia]
Chenon Diary (The site seems to be down for good though, it was a site made for Fish Ranking)
I shall add more if people provide good resources.
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