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Japan Earthquake/Tsunami
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-03-12 13:31:54
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Let's not have a WW2 / nuclear bomb debate in this thread. I'm happy to have it elsewhere, but let's keep this one on-topic for now.
Sorry man, my topic was how bad the radiation could be if a reactor blew god forbid.
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By Caitsith.Taazy 2011-03-12 13:44:29
Quote: 1938: More on the effects of the quake around the world: In Peru, the mayor of the town of Pisco says tsunami waves destroyed about 300 houses as they swept into the town square - about 400 people spent the night in tents
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-12 14:04:17
So, I picked this up from 4chan (no not one of the insert funny caption on japan here)
What the *** is wrong with people, seriously (and not even the 4chan ppl, the people they got this from @.@)
Spoilered for wtf is wrong w/ America
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-12 14:11:25
k fixed it
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-03-12 14:13:16
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: k fixed it
Old anyway.
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-03-12 14:16:05
It was posted in the thread a couple pages back I believe.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-03-12 14:17:19
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: So, I picked this up from 4chan (no not one of the insert funny caption on japan here)
What the *** is wrong with people, seriously (and not even the 4chan ppl, the people they got this from @.@)
Spoilered for wtf is wrong w/ America
I'm sorry ahead of time, I know Jaerik wants this on topic, but I couldn't help but comment on one of these idiots. Marty Mann, saying that the Japanese started WW2, perfectly illustrates how idiots think everything revolves around the US.. WW2 started years before the Japanese drew us into it. To him WW2 started when they attacked Pearl Harbor I guess..
Okay I'm done, didn't want to go make a whole new thread just for that, but had to comment on that.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-12 14:38:49
Not tryin to derail here so my last post of this nature, but I had to *** w/ one of these guys on facebook
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By Sylph.Zenairis 2011-03-12 14:40:14
I can't believe some of these people they still can't let that grudge go... there's many good people over in Japan and Japan is one of our close allies now. Is this one thread on Facebook or a bunch?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-12 14:41:56
It's a lot. Go to openbook.org and search keyword pearl harbor. Will pull up all the public profiles that have used that word in their status today. dozens
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-03-12 14:45:57
Sylph.Zenairis said: I can't believe some of these people they still can't let that grudge go... there's many good people over in Japan and Japan is one of our close allies now. Is this one thread on Facebook or a bunch?
It's not even a grudge, it's just mental retardation. A Grudge implies wronged in some way, and I don't see any World War II veterans/widows/ect saying ***like this on facebook.
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By Caitsith.Taazy 2011-03-12 14:46:34
Quote: 2039: Ian Hore-Lacy of the World Nuclear Association told the BBC he believes the situation at the nuclear power plant - where sea water is being used to cool the reactor core - is under control: "The point is that the heat, decay heat from the fuel drops off very rapidly. So after an hour, an hour following the shut down, it's down to about 2 or 3% I think. And after 24 hours it's down to half a per cent. So the amount of heat you've got to cope with right now is a small fraction of what there was initially."
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By Caitsith.Taazy 2011-03-12 14:47:06
[quote2042: Reuters: The IAEA says it has been told by Japan that 140,000 people have been evacuated from areas around two nuclear plants][/quote]
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-03-12 14:48:15
Has it been determined what the cause of that explosion was yet?
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By Sylph.Zenairis 2011-03-12 14:49:12
I saw a couple that said that they had lost some relatives in pearl harbor but I agree.
Edit: dropping this here and leaving the rest to the disaster discussion.
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-03-12 15:07:31
Odin.Zicdeh said: Has it been determined what the cause of that explosion was yet? Cerberus.Liandaru said: Quote: 1316: Noriyuki Shikata, deputy cabinet secretary for public relations for the Japanese prime minister tweets: "Blast was caused by accumulated hydrogen combined with oxygen in the space between container and outer structure. No damage to container." As to why hydrogen accumulated, I haven't read anything so far about that.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-12 15:14:00
Asura.Vyre said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Has it been determined what the cause of that explosion was yet? Cerberus.Liandaru said: Quote: 1316: Noriyuki Shikata, deputy cabinet secretary for public relations for the Japanese prime minister tweets: "Blast was caused by accumulated hydrogen combined with oxygen in the space between container and outer structure. No damage to container." As to why hydrogen accumulated, I haven't read anything so far about that. Technically the hydrogen was always there :)
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By Caitsith.Taazy 2011-03-12 15:28:59
Quote: 2123: Reuters: The emergency cooling system is no longer functioning at the Fukushima No. 3 reactor, an official from Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has told journalists
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-03-12 16:05:18
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Sylph.Zenairis said: I can't believe some of these people they still can't let that grudge go... there's many good people over in Japan and Japan is one of our close allies now. Is this one thread on Facebook or a bunch?
It is amazing how anyone can think after dropping two nuclear bombs on Japan that mentioning Pearl Harbor after such a terrible natural disaster is even justified in anyway. I mean I would say two bombs like that on a country > a battle, but hey that is just me..
Those who suffered because of earthquake are just citizens, they have nothing to do with pearl harbor, politics and war. So no, they don't deserve this in anyway.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-03-12 16:09:55
Ragnarok.Afania said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Sylph.Zenairis said: I can't believe some of these people they still can't let that grudge go... there's many good people over in Japan and Japan is one of our close allies now. Is this one thread on Facebook or a bunch? It is amazing how anyone can think after dropping two nuclear bombs on Japan that mentioning Pearl Harbor after such a terrible natural disaster is even justified in anyway. I mean I would say two bombs like that on a country > a battle, but hey that is just me.. Those who suffered because of earthquake are just citizens, they have nothing to do with pearl harbor, politics and war. So no, they don't deserve this in anyway.
Yeah, I wonder what percentage of the affected were alive in 1942...
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By Caitsith.Taazy 2011-03-12 16:11:35
Quote: 2145: Reuters: The number of people exposed to radiation near Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant could reach 160, an official from the Japan Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has said. Nine people have shown signs of possible exposure
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By Caitsith.Taazy 2011-03-12 16:21:26
Quote: 2212: Some clarification: It is the number three reactor at the Fukushima No. 1 plant where officials have just announced that the cooling system has failed. This morning's blast took place at the number one reactor at the same plant. "All the functions to keep cooling water levels in No. 3 reactor have failed at the Fukushima No. 1 plant," a spokesman for the operator said.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-03-12 16:34:55
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Sylph.Zenairis said: I can't believe some of these people they still can't let that grudge go... there's many good people over in Japan and Japan is one of our close allies now. Is this one thread on Facebook or a bunch?
It is amazing how anyone can think after dropping two nuclear bombs on Japan that mentioning Pearl Harbor after such a terrible natural disaster is even justified in anyway. I mean I would say two bombs like that on a country > a battle, but hey that is just me.. This really shocked me coming from you spicy. They were both horrible situations where many lives were lost and neither you nor I have the capacity or right to truly quantify them like that. -_-
Bismarck.Nevill said: Ragnarok.Afania said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Sylph.Zenairis said: I can't believe some of these people they still can't let that grudge go... there's many good people over in Japan and Japan is one of our close allies now. Is this one thread on Facebook or a bunch? It is amazing how anyone can think after dropping two nuclear bombs on Japan that mentioning Pearl Harbor after such a terrible natural disaster is even justified in anyway. I mean I would say two bombs like that on a country > a battle, but hey that is just me.. Those who suffered because of earthquake are just citizens, they have nothing to do with pearl harbor, politics and war. So no, they don't deserve this in anyway.
Yeah, I wonder what percentage of the affected were alive in 1942... Almost 60 years ago? yeah good question if any
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-12 16:49:10
Asura.Catastrophe said: Caitsith.Taazy said: Quote: 2039: Ian Hore-Lacy of the World Nuclear Association told the BBC he believes the situation at the nuclear power plant - where sea water is being used to cool the reactor core - is under control: "The point is that the heat, decay heat from the fuel drops off very rapidly. So after an hour, an hour following the shut down, it's down to about 2 or 3% I think. And after 24 hours it's down to half a per cent. So the amount of heat you've got to cope with right now is a small fraction of what there was initially." That's such a bland way to word things.
Is the ECCS on Non-regenerative heat exchange with seawater? Or are they charging seawater directly into the system? To say that the decay heat is only 2 or 3% is misleading at best. If he's talking about equivalent power, Rx power is exponential so half a percent is still incredibly significant. Also all the I thinks and believes in there just inspires such confidence.
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