Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

Given the hate that red mages get when they temporarily blind everyone with LB3s, I imagine that large summons would not be too popular.

Its full on snowing here in Austin Texas. About 2 inches so far. I helped some neighbors with their windshields. None of these Texans have an ice scraper. I've done my good deeds for the year. See you next year.

When we get 2 inches of snow here in the Phoenix area I'll start prepping for Armageddon. I was enjoying a warm January afternoon outside today.

For me, what they did with SMN made it unplayable. Then again I was a sicifrit SMN except when I HAD to use Garuda.

In general SMN does too many disparate things. There is no cohesion. They DoT, they burst, they drain, they tell little flying things what to do, they even summon! And somehow do really good damage so people won't notice what a hot stinking mess the job has become.

ice scraper? you mean... one of these?

OMG! I UNDERSTAND...

I got a little snow too.

All I do is turn on the car and wait 15-20 minutes.

I STILL have those

I hate to tell you, but.....

3D printed Shadow Lord. Took 2hrs and this is how it came off the plate.

I'd love to get into 3d printing to make cool minis of stuff like that, or custom/replacement parts for model kits. But I'm such a brainlet that I still mess up printing stuff out on paper, so it's probably best I stay away from it. :I

KN earlier today

I thought it'd be a pain in the *** but honestly it has been foolproof

I don't get why you think the demi-primals are ugly. They're blow for blow the full version of the primals as designed within the game engine, just scaled down in size.

I brought up the SMN history in FF to try and describe why SMN in XIV is the way it is, with the focus on Bio and other deterioration style spells. FF4 reference.

Also I wasn't suggesting. Other than looking really cool, there were almost always other, better ways to damage the enemy more quickly in older FFs. I say this as someone who leveled my GFs in FF8 up into the 50s towards the start of the game and wouldn't stop using Shiva pretty much every turn lol.

One of the stream houses with tons of zoomer followers made a server and all of the big streamers/you tubers played on it.

You should know by now that most people on here are extremely anti XIV and pull percentages out of their arse to suit their needs. Yes 2.0 SMN was hardly a SMN but then we got dreadwyrm trance, bahamut and Phoenix and SMN actually feels like a SMN. The problems people had with SMN in 5.0 were purely a rotational issue which has for the most part been fixed.

That requires me to go outside in the cold. Ain't nobody got time for that ***.meme

Because they are ugly? It is a question of opinion and they don't look cool at all to me for a job like Summoner. I'm honestly puzzled you have people that are actually defending SMN in that game.

You can't explain the way it is, it was a failed idea they just had to run with like most of the game and the original ideas. They wanted to have primals summoned via FC's and it never worked out because they didn't follow through. Nobody wanted to summon those terrible Egi things or weird low res summons. Just because they added two of them doesn't all of a sudden make the job not a failure. It may work within their rigid job format but its nothing like any FF Summoner if they were trying to go with some kind of recognition for the job.

I'm aware, youre probably talking to one of the biggest FF fans. I wasn't talking about its actual use within the game, they could have forced it to fit within their combat system but it doesn't retain a lot of job identity from the series. Bio was one spell in FF4 and maybe Poison etc, but it did not have a focus on deterioration spells lol, that is something they shoe-horned in because they had to make it fit.


Just have to laugh, because they added two watered down versions of Bahamut and Phoenix in a rotation it makes it a great Summoner. I don't think you will find any non XIV devotees that will agree with you. I suppose after you forced yourself to like such a lame version of SMN, you probably want to defend it though.

aside from x and xi smn has always been "summon a strong avatar for a big attack before it vanishes". that's pretty in line with xiv's smn. comes out, does a boom, and leaves.

Cause FFXIV SMN isn't the same as other games.

Don't compare FFXIV SMN with any other games, especially FFXI, it's really a different job style.

Other games, even FFXI, SMN is a big beatstick for high cost. FFXIV SMN is a moderate beatstick that is like pretty much every other DPS, except it can range better than most, and has the possibility to deal potent DoTs than most. It's not the same as any other SMNs in any other games.

Yeah and that was my whole point, in addition to the fact it looks super lame even the limit break is lame. XI really did summoner the justice it required.

Ya but only two and they are watered down. If they had all the primals in a similar fashion i would say it isn't bad.

I don't know.

No Bahamut? No Justice!

Lol maybe true, He is needed but I think they plan to add another avatar but probably Phoenix. If they add Bahamut I would say XI is the best version of SMN in any game ?

The only XIV job that is REMOTELY comparable to its XI version is BLU.

This is not to say XIV is lame. This is saying that they are different games.