Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

Does an uncensored version exist of this btw? I mean not cause I'm a pervert or anything..

Does an uncensored version exist of this btw? I mean not cause I'm a pervert or anything..

A supernatural energy that flows through the Tower. Each Floor has areas of varying amounts of Shinsoo density, increasing with each floor. In lower concentrations, its' density makes the substance act like a gas, but in higher concentrations, it behaves like a liquid.

At different times, Shinsoo can take on the properties of water, fire, air, or light, etc. Shinsoo has an endless list of variations. As it can be so many different things, nothing can be singled out to define Shinsoo or to assign it with a special property. Shinsoo is the "basis of all energy".

How about Shinheuh then? "God Sea Aquatic Animals"

Or Shinsoo, "Divine Water". It's not water though, it's pretty much everything.


This can also be manipulated to create weapons, attack with, give immortality to people with great enough control over it. Some technique names and things like Shinheuh and Shinsoo can't really be translated.

Wolhaiksong (월하익송, Weolhaiksong; most likely 月下翼松, yue4 xia4 yi4 song1, "The Winged Tree Under the Moon"; ), or the Wing Tree (윙트리, Wingteuri) is a independent organisation (NGO) in the Tower which resides in the 77th Floor.


If SIU wanted to use an ambiguous term like “tree”, he would’ve used 木나무 목(mu4, nahmoo/namu). Or perhaps "樹, 나무 수(shu4, nahmoo/namu soo/su)". In Mandarin, both "木(mu4)" and "樹(shu4)" refer to tree. However, he specifically used "松, 소나무, 송(song1, soo/su namu, song)" where “松”; “소나무”, "송" mean “pine tree” in Mandarin/Korean. And SIU didn’t use any other botanical terms to describe the Wolhaiksong.

So, SIU is probably alluding to several imageries or meanings. The first being: the form of a tree with wings in place of branches resembles a pine tree. Note the resemblance of the Wolhaiksong symbol to a pine tree and he's probably not talking about the actual tree in this sense. The other meanings are unknown for the time being.

Also, Mandarin is very heavy on context and tends to "drop" characters so a name/phrase/sentence becomes shorter and sometimes, more elegant. So translating directly isn't always advisable. Or else, the result would be something like “Under the moon, a pine tree with wings or a winged pine tree.” Neither makes any sense as trees can't grow wings.

Also, there are often different ways of describing the first imagery(not the full context) and below are just a few examples. And the English transcription is somewhat literal, to grasp at the context.

月下的树。那棵有翅膀的树，非常相似松树。(yue4 xia4 de shu4. na4 ke you3 chi4 bang3 de shu4, fei1 chang3 xiang1 si4 song1 shu4) Tree under the moon. The tree which has "wings", very much "resembles" a pine tree.

When "tree" is first mentioned, the context is ambiguous. Only until "tree" is mentioned a second time, does the reader know the topic is talking about a singular tree, out of multiple trees.

站在月下的树好像只有翅膀，所以這些翅膀非常相似一棵松树的枝椏。(zhan4 zai4 yue4 xia4 de shu4 hao3 xiang4 zhi3 you3 chi4 bang3, suo3 yi3 zhe4 xie chi4 bang3 fei1 chang2 xiang1 si4 yi1 ke1 song1 shu4 de zhi1 ya1.)

Tree standing under the moon seems as though only has "wings", so these "wings" very much "resemble" the branches of a pine tree.

However, this sentence is even more ambiguous because it never defines if the tree is singular or multiple. Only through other context, can one arrive at the conclusion it's referring to a single tree.

Gotta wait for the bd to come out...
only thing Im watching this season cause I have terrible taste.

My point is that professional translators very rarely include this stuff and just translate it as something, without explaining why they chose that word and what the original means or why the author chose to use those specific characters etc

I prefer just having to say reitsu and seiretei etc than massacring the words. but could get out of handy easily

Kalyna would you say spirit power or reitsu?

If you want there to be notes ok, I agree. But I really don't think words should be left untranslated unless they're made up terms.

stylistic

true localizing can help. the one thing that always confuses me is why a dub of a show decides to pronounce words differently from the original.

Like if someone's name was getiryu and the english for no reason pronounces it Gatiryu. Like they never heard the original content or something

Rasengan or Chidori

No, no, no. It's just feels that way cause for a non japanese person japanese words sound cooler than they are in his own language. Just like sometimes japanese characters use english names for abilities for no *** reason(in fantasy worlds where english isn't even a thing!)
It's like Kalyna says, if I read BLEACH for the first time and see "his Reiatsu is really strong" my first thought would be "yeah, and my Opel struggles uphill".

I hate when they write "Rukia Kuchiki" instead of "Kuchiki Rukia" but that's just me though, doesn't actually do anything to the translation.

I hate when they write "Rukia Kuchiki" instead of "Kuchiki Rukia" but that's just me though, doesn't actually do anything to the translation.

I could see if a word uses sounds the person was incapable of using, like some Afrikaans words I could never say accurately. But for most words I come across it's not hard to just pronounce them the way the creator of the show intended instead of reading the word on paper and for fun, pronouncing it however I want.

gets annoying and makes the dub actor sound stupid for no reason

Depends on where you're from. Name Surname actually sounds better for me than Surname Name.

Japanese have it go Last name, First name. Westerners do it First name, Last name.

If a westerner saw it as Kuchiki Rukia, they'd think Kuchiki is the first name, which it isn't.