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By . on 2025-08-24 01:46:29 |
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Not accusing Nynja is a tourist but I quickly read blade runner sub and I already see tourists invasion making comments that absolutely don't "get" the core theme of this IP. My head hurts....
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Breaks the theme!
but also no, i don't have a kraken club, ya got me.
But also also: KC is for poors, that ***only costs 999m.
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By NynJa on 2025-08-24 01:39:14 |
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Not everyone has been playing for 5 years getting gil every week, tbh.
Is it bragging time tho?
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I made up the 30k, honestly. I haven't done BRD melee on the character with the dagger in Limbus for a while. Even if it weren't 30k though, it will 100% without a doubt beat Savage spam.
You can easily do SC without prime too. Mordant Mordant evisceration rudra's is a SC i do all the time. I'm sure there are a bunch more. Anything should beat spamming WS with no SC.
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By Carbuncle. Nynja on 2025-08-24 01:21:31 |
Are you even the target audience, lol? Based on Blade Runner and Blade Runner 2049, yeah I should fall under the target audience. |
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By NynJa on 2025-08-24 01:05:03 |
Send me money to activate the account.
stop being a poor, bruh Theres a difference between a poor and wasting money for no reason.
Poor's have no money. |
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lol damn you, Male haha.
My WHM cure set is very similar to that but Ebers +2, Queller's Rod, Cleric's +1 and I have different Rings and a different Earring. Cure Pot is capped, Cure Pot II is high without the extra MP Expense (Some Care, Some don't, I prefer not to worry about it)
I've been performing pretty good on WHM so far for the times I use it but it's a job that puts me to sleep so I don't want to push money into it if I don't intend to use it to the fullest? |
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By Senaki on 2025-08-24 00:31:57 |
Quote: How Do You Get Spriggan Fetish? Idk, ask a furry.
I did, Senaki didn’t know the answer. |
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I read that in the volcano insurance salesman's voice
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I have multiple mules with capped gil and most of my JSE Necks are +2
Sir, we need to talk about that most. If you have 3b gil, what on earth are you waiting for to upgrade those +1 necks to +2? I get that I'm a neck salesman so take it with a grain of salt but um...all the +2 necks are better than the +1 necks, you clearly have no use for that gil...why would that most not be an all? |
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One bazar full of every sellable available in one month’s Ambuscade?
I was not being sarcastic, just genuinely confused.
You farmed one bazaar full of every sellable in one month's ambu.. without doing ambu?
How are you farming ambu without spending time farming ambu is the question.
Spend time -> make gil.
Spend time -> farm something.
Spend time -> farm gil to buy something.
What is the difference. Finally able to actually sit down and reply properly and I see this thing... You hit me with the "No Such Thing As a Free Lunch"??? Really? lol. Clearly trolling, not responding any further to that.
gil isn't hard to make people, just need to be motivated. if you want to settle for a +1 that's fine, but let's not pretend 40m is a lot by any standard. You're right but some players struggle to make larger amounts of gil in short amounts of time. 40m to some of us is next to nothing but is potentially a month or more of grinding for some players so they're going to look at this with greater consideration. Add also that a lot of players DO NOT have the time to "Get Motivated" for this game enough to farm gil beyond whatever they can get from Ambuscade and Odyssey lol.
Valefor.Yandaime said: »
Some Necks just aren’t worth it to +2.
If its worth buying the +1 and spending time/money augmenting it, why the *** is the +2 not worth it??? What kind of dumb logic is this.
A little something called Economics? Or Arithmetic maybe? Before I begin, I'll remind everyone of the OP:
Fenrir.Brimstonefox said: »I realize this is a loaded question, and I'd argue you should get it for your favorite job or 2 as most are BiS for 1 or more reasons, but for someone who doesn't play a job constantly and isn't overflowing in gil which offer the best use for the money?
As a generic statement for the DD necks the +2% PDL (which is a fairly rare stat) difference does not seem worth it to me, probably never make use of it lowman/solo, and depending of job/buffs/content you may hit 99999 dmg occasionally too.
That said my quick read would be to +2 the following:
RDM, BST, SMN, NIN, SCH
GEO if no Idris
PUP if you nuke with that maybe?
The OP appears to want to know which Necks are mandatory to +2 and which ones are just "Nice to have". Appears to want to perform well or adequately but has no intentions of overthrowing any Career Job players? Am I correct in that assumption?
With that premise outlined, let's delve deeper!
A Fully Maxed Out JSE+1 Neck has 80% of the Fully Maxed out JSE+2 Neck's power on average while only spending 25% of the Maximum total cost of a +2 Assuming it's acquired instantly because "Opportunity Cost". That's just good math lol. For the OP's considerations, fewer JSE Necks will become mandatory to +2 for Routine Roll Filling/Casual Play because the differences in a lot of these is very small. You'll still have the key piece but the impact won't be exactly as big as the Career guy but at the end of the day you still won the fight so who cares? So for anyone who doesn't have tons of gil to spend like You or Me, the +1 option looks much more appealing.
Nynja, I believe you might be conflating the presence of a JSE Neck +1 to having one's entire Gearset at lesser quality when in today's meta, that's fairly silly to do? Most job metas presently run off of R/Ex Equipment that must be earned through play instead of purchased. Yes, I goofed on the Abjuration -1 stuff but what jobs are using that right now in any content that matters??? Every job is using some combination of Empyrean Armor +2/3 with some AF, Relic and some Gaol gear in either TP, WS or Nuking so if you or anyone else's DPS is foiled by the choice of a +1 or +2 Neck, you have very seriously *** up. I hate to break it to you but if THIS is what you're losing sleep over, you might be playing the wrong game.
Real answer: if you play the job enough the +2 is probably worth it. If you don’t, probably not
This is probably the cleanest answer to this whole thing; Unnecessary Jabs aside.
All this talk from poors reminded me I have over 300 mil abandoned on Asura :( Ohhh that's just adorable :) Some of us have been trying to actually give the OP a real answer here but just to humor your little quip, I have multiple mules with capped gil and most of my JSE Necks are +2 and I STILL would not recommend putting out extra money for something you don't intend to use very often or don't care much about.
As I said before, it's only a neck piece and if the rest of the gearset is solid, it probably won't matter much. Unless it's burning a hole in your pocket, there are more efficient uses for your money. Simonses and Maletaru offered some compelling arguments for JSE Necks that are worthwhile to +2 if able so take that under consideration.
I'll leave it alone there, you all have a wonderful weekend. |
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Send me money to activate the account.
stop being a poor, bruh |
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By on 2025-08-23 23:59:21 |
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By Fenrir. Niflheim on 2025-08-23 23:53:33 |
If my wife became an elementary school student. I wont lie this title is so clickbait (kindaish) and does feel like SUS, but two chapters and Im already hooked on it. Maybe because the male protagonist is a salaryman, and I end up sympathizing it. The kid wife is also very interesting character. Maybe if she was a ghost or a monster it wouldnt feel as awkward as being a kid, then I could like the character more without triggering FBI…
Top Show Op Detective Conan has been around basically since the dawn of time, and that is a highschool boy being turned into a elementary school age. Most people are not aware of it in that show so a bit different, but never noticed awkwardness. But maybe that is just the ever present difference between a boy in that situation and a girl |
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By mhomho on 2025-08-23 22:31:37 |
Sure. Maybe for 2handers. I'd still put like Sequence in D-tier. Godhands I could see being B-Tier, or like Doji or Chango. Not universally all Aeonics.
Blu? I'd rather have Tizona over Sequence.
Pld? Burtang.
Rdm? I'd rather just use Naegling for meleeing.
A-tier I think you're competing with things like Spalirisos. Or like Scythe you have to compete with Foenaria and Liberator. Add in Greatswords. Would you put Caladbolg in S or A? Caladbolg Drk is really good, no? But Wat is maybe a better day job so Chango goes up in value because war isn't on Caladbolg, but it is on Helheim. So is greatsword War better with Helheim? I doubt you guys take prime weapons into serious consideration because their acquisition is the hardest probably currently and not all prime weapons are S-tier. Maybe that lowers them on tier list because you're never going to strive for one. I get never getting a Daurdabla of you're going straight for Loughnashade, but if a prime weapon is a ways away you need something for the interim while you progress the account.
Is Epeolatry really good? Ya, but if it's six months out do you just use Aettir until then or do you make a Lionheart to fool around? I wouldn't put Lionheart in A nor S tier. It's good, but Epeolatry is just so much cumfier. Lionheart honestly feels like a waste. D tier. It's to run what most staves and clubs are, excluding Yagrush and Nirvana. |
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It's TP bonus+500 and STP+10, in a meta of weaponskills being the bulk of your damage. If the weapon has a good dmg varies WS, the aeonic's gonna be atleast in B tier
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Free login in a week
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By arakon on 2025-08-23 21:33:29 |
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Code function idle()
if player.status == 'Engaged' then
equip(sets.engaged.melee)
else
equip(sets.idle.dt)
end
end
In this function how would I add the command equip(sets.idle.nightdt) during 'dusk to dawn' for Nin AF boots. |
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By NynJa on 2025-08-23 21:29:13 |
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Send me money to activate the account.
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All this talk from poors reminded me I have over 300 mil abandoned on Asura :( I will gladly accept 40m from you then!
Feel free to send me a tell in game |
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By mhomho on 2025-08-23 21:25:42 |
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You can't say Heishi when they're literally using Naegling on Nin to comparable effect.
But hey! Atleast you guys are trying to make the discussion interesting.
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By NynJa on 2025-08-23 21:17:04 |
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All this talk from poors reminded me I have over 300 mil abandoned on Asura :(
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It might not always work, so sometimes you have to take threat from the target, then pull it AWAY from your trust and healers. The trust tank will stubbornly stand at range, but after like 15 seconds they will give up and run in. Then you can get out of range with the positioning set. But that might not work in Gaol since they hold hate kinda decently at start of fights.
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By NynJa on 2025-08-23 20:58:13 |
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That sounds about like where I was *** up, I dont think I used Ygnas.
Thank you
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Quote: Here ran out to limbus to see how far over cap I'm at this was with trust buffs and a brd without aria. So that's more than 30k to spare over cap against a normal mob. Probably goes a bit higher only did a few but I think this demonstrates you don't need qutrubs to cap damage with shining one.
Cherry picking numbers isn't really going to win you this argument. We all know how strong shining one is, and we're all aware of what dragoon can do with a lance. The simple fact is that the math favors Gae Buide by a considerable margin. More than enough to put its damage output well ahead of shining one. Diarmuid is ridiculously good. And posting "But look at my numbers with XYZ" isn't going to change that. I can post numbers with "XYZ" "ABC" or "LOP" too you know.
Nobody is saying that shining one is suddenly weak. It's always been in the same category as naegling. Naegling just takes the spotlight because it has 3 times more jobs on it, support jobs included. But the prime weapons do surpass ambuscade weapons, and turning your head to look the other way just because you don't have one yet won't make that not be true. |
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~50 mil in beits to 119 III it ( extra dmg, macc+15, mab+15, mdmg+62, lolclubandparry, maccskill+27, afterglow)
48 mil in swarts to R15 it (extra dmg, exudation+15%, acc/macc+30
Correction, you brought swarts in the convo "to R15 it". As well as even afterglowing it with the beits.
Now, if you never plan to get Idris, then the +2 is the second highest Geomancy+ available, but at the cost of 50mil. I would argue to spend that 46mil towards an Idris and settle with a 4mil Geomany+6 until your coalitions are done.
I also don't factor in the heroisms cost, go do Dyna you lazies!
I merely said the +2 neck had slightly more value over the +1 in the instance of NOT owning an Idris, and going +1 neck and putting the remaining 46mil from not buying the +2 neck into making Idris being more cost effective in my opinion.
Unless you had no clue you could cap RP by doing dynaD with the Charm equipped without giving a single heroism to Oboro, which explains why I was questioning your decision making before.
Also how do you figure this? I specifically said I wasn't calculating in the heroisms and instead to not be lazy and go do dyna RP, because there were other posts commenting on the cost of Augs either through heroism or buying RP runs on asura.
37 mil for idris in bayld, cost of stones will vary depending on source (event, ah, vouchers)
~50 mil in beits to 119 III it ( extra dmg, macc+15, mab+15, mdmg+62, lolclubandparry, maccskill+27, afterglow)
48 mil in swarts to R15 it (extra dmg, exudation+15%, acc/macc+30)
Vs
50 mil for Charm+2, RP cost is not included You'll be getting some swarts from the Dyna runs, there's also Omen you could farm, so why we compare buying all swarts and none of the heroisms?
My comment was directed at your post comparing the cost of R15 idris vs base +2 neck cost. YOU said spending 50mil in beits and 48mil in swarts. Which you also conveniently left out the part about the beits I said.
My comment was about if youre going to full buy all the beits/swarts/hpbaylds without spending any effort in dyna/omen/ambu then why do you think someone is going to not full buy the heroisms out of not wanting to spend time in dyna?
Again, if you have a billion gil then this whole thread means nothing to you as you could just buy every +2 and not care. I took this thread pointing to the person whos weighing the pros/cons of getting a +2 or being satisfied with a +1 for w/e given job and merely replied to someone who made a blanket statement which I thought was invalid. I feel this is being drug into the previous time vs cost argument that I read vaguely and wasn't replying to, I've said my piece to any prospective geos. |
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By mhomho on 2025-08-23 20:49:43 |
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Beaten by a loughnashade.
I agree Daurdabla is out classed by Loughnashade, but you're not building Loughnashade without a 4song bard. Hence Loughnashade would S-tier (it's objectively better) and Daurdabla would A-tier (it's easier to make).
If I had to pick between a Daurdabla or Honor March, I'd take Honor March in every possible situation.
Because you're totally making Marsyas with three song, right? Most of you will not even consider a three song bard as a realistic party option because of your elitism unless you're deliberately trying to be contrarion (which less face it, you guys do be trollin'). Like, if I said you can't make Loughnashade with a three song bard, I'm sure one of you would do it just to prove me wrong. Doesn't mean prime weapons still have the highest skill floor to access compared to an aeonic or a relic.
I stand by my ratings of the instruments in relation to all of the weapons.
Loughnashade S-tier.
Daurdabla A-tier
Marsyas B-tier
Gjallahorn C-tier |
