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By Anza on 2025-10-08 16:10:19


Yes, we need to stick RUN on this thing. BLUs and PLDs? What are those?
By Pergatory on 2025-10-08 15:40:12
I bounce back and forth sometimes on group 2. Always 5/5 focalization, it's awesome for magic bursting which is the main thing I use SCH for. My other one bounces between Stormsurge & Enlightenment, depending on what kind of content I'm doing lately.

Stormsurge is awesome for when you're relegated to healer/support duties, gives you another buff you can do to boost their STR a little bit or whatever. It's pretty minor but it's not nothing.

Enlightenment is awesome for Kaustra, which is mostly just used in Aminon & V25 Bumba. There are other utility uses for it like Dekar said quickly throwing out a Raise/Reraise but you can get those with 1 merit, Kaustra is the main reason you'd take it to 5/5.

These days I'm usually just sitting at 5 focalization and 5 enlightenment like Shadowmeld said.
By Phannatic06 on 2025-10-08 15:38:00
Thanks for the responses
By Nariont on 2025-10-08 15:28:06
SW is just as good if not slightly better iirc but mkris i guess would also be an option among the 2 already listed, provided you arent hitting 0's with such a low dmg dagger, but kclubs only 3 dmg higher
By Nolano on 2025-10-08 15:20:29
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
1-There was no mention of it in the patch notes when they explicitly stated that NM kills affect drop rate.

Yes, thank you for your comment, but I'm looking for numbers here.

For what it's worth my data looks like:

135: 9/22
130: 6/12
123: 0/2
By Goltana101 on 2025-10-08 15:14:12
Damage Taken trait is separate and additive with Magic Defense Bonus trait. Simply having DT doesn't make up for not having additional MDB on a piece of gear (and by extension magic evasion). Not sure what point is being made by highlighting that.
By NynJa on 2025-10-08 15:11:02
Obviously gotta wait for patch to see what happens and what it finally says. But what if the tally is good for a month. Presuming one server sits on their hands and kills 0 NMs the previous month, does that mean the month after will have ***drop rate with no way to adjust it for the entire month??

This shortsightedness would be on par for SE though.
By palladin9479 on 2025-10-08 15:07:40
Phoenix.Enochroot said: »
Shiva.Zynjec said: »
You're welcome.

Kudos. I figured it was real but despaired since there wouldn't be a way to distribute a patched binary that would be trustworthy.

A better way would be for the windower team to have something that changes the instruction in memory instead. It's just signature scan + offset.
By Dekar1 on 2025-10-08 14:48:40
These are what I use:

Group 1:
Grimoire Recast 5/5
Helix Acc/Attack 5/5

I think 5/5 Helix is universal for most people. I used to do Sublimation, but with current gear and buffs, I don't feel I need it any more. I despise being stuck in the wrong arts so I prefer making it easier to switch between arts.

Group 2:
Altruism 4/5
Focalization 5/5
Enlightenment 1/5

I choose 5/5 for Focalization to help with nukes/gravity/sleep/bind but you really could do Altruism if you're more worried about Silence/Paralyze/Slow etc. The Enlightenment is great for quickly casting Raise/Reraise.
By on 2025-10-08 14:43:47
By Kadokawa on 2025-10-08 14:43:06
Valefor.Aspens said: »
It already assumes you have wyvern + max spirit link bonus.

if self.main_job == "drg": # Bonus stats for having a fully leveled Wyvern pet:
self.stats["Wyvern Bonus Attack%"] = True # This represents the +20% attack that will be applied later for having a wyvern out. Additive bonus with smite, berserk, chaos roll, etc.
self.stats["Weapon Skill Damage Trait"] = self.stats.get("Weapon Skill Damage Trait",0) + 10
self.stats["JA Haste"] = self.stats.get("JA Haste",0) + 10
self.stats["DA"] = self.stats.get("DA",0) + 15
self.stats["Attack"] = self.stats.get("Attack",0) + 40 # +40 attack for having a fully leveled Wyvern pet with 20/20 Job Points.

Thank you very much for the confirmation :D apperciate it!
By dannyl on 2025-10-08 14:38:07
Alright, let me swing the convo back on topic if I can:

These aren't all that humble, but this topic made me go through my screenshots and I picked a few







By Aspens on 2025-10-08 14:27:05
It already assumes you have wyvern + max spirit link bonus.

if self.main_job == "drg": # Bonus stats for having a fully leveled Wyvern pet:
self.stats["Wyvern Bonus Attack%"] = True # This represents the +20% attack that will be applied later for having a wyvern out. Additive bonus with smite, berserk, chaos roll, etc.
self.stats["Weapon Skill Damage Trait"] = self.stats.get("Weapon Skill Damage Trait",0) + 10
self.stats["JA Haste"] = self.stats.get("JA Haste",0) + 10
self.stats["DA"] = self.stats.get("DA",0) + 15
self.stats["Attack"] = self.stats.get("Attack",0) + 40 # +40 attack for having a fully leveled Wyvern pet with 20/20 Job Points.
By on 2025-10-08 14:24:07
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By dannyl on 2025-10-08 14:13:01


I would not be surprised if they used that as THE drop rate. 'They' love that number in this world
By Dodik on 2025-10-08 14:06:25
waffle said: »
So your server will have an entire month to kill as many of the 22 nms they want to try to raise the drop rate.

That's my guess too.

But we haven't heard anything from the Phoenix folk regarding more drop rate data from boxes to see what effect killing even all NMs has.

14/22 was the last report, but 22 reports is not enough to make a conclusion. Base rate is more or less known (33%).
By waffle on 2025-10-08 13:57:31
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
will you still have to kill all 22 NM's (so 44) per area per week to maximize drop rate?
Since the idea seems to be to make it more relaxed, I'd guess the 22 nms will spawn on a monthly, rather than weekly basis. So your server will have an entire month to kill as many of the 22 nms they want to try to raise the drop rate.
By Dodik on 2025-10-08 13:48:32
Nada. Bucketlists are for when you don't like your life, IMO.

All good as is.
By . on 2025-10-08 13:01:40
By . on 2025-10-08 12:57:27
Booked my hotel room for tomorrow, but damn these deep sea charters are starting at $1,000 for four hours, that is an absolute scam. Guarantee they stay close to the shoreline and catch trash fish like benito and kings. I am going to have to call them each individually until I find the right one.
By . on 2025-10-08 12:43:50
By Goltana101 on 2025-10-08 12:42:03
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
This is only true if the extra meva you have from other pieces of armor is making you to resist the magic damage though.

You don't need to take my word for it. Go out and use a non ilvl set of gear and get cast on by a random Ghost in Feiyin. Throw on a Wayfarer's set and look at the difference in damage received. There's a reason why we used Vex/attunement for a lot of bosses early on before we had this massive magic evasion stat bloat, partly enfeeble resist, but it helped a lot for magic defense of front line jobs to help resist the damage. Not needed so much now with stuff like Nyame/Sakpata's/Malignance/Empyrean +3, but same concept.
By . on 2025-10-08 12:34:22
Asura.Eiryl said: »
I dunno about that guarantee, eventually, of course

Not my first furlough. No reason to listen to the fearmongering.
By NynJa on 2025-10-08 12:32:50
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Example:
-Arke set has no Magic Evasion (gives -DT); the tradeoff is you receive more TP per hit received at the expense of taking significantly higher magic damage.
This is only true if the extra meva you have from other pieces of armor is making you to resist the magic damage though. And its only been rather recently that SE has been slathering meva on armor.

Just to use Pumm Mask (literally the top piece when going down the list, I'm not cherry picking anything)
NQ 36
+1 53 (+17)
+2 63 (+10)
+3 73 (+10)
+4 98 (+25)

The stat upgrades from +3 to +4 were pretty shitty overall, but they backed up the brinks truck to upgrade the acc/macc/eva/meva on those pieces.
By Genoxd on 2025-10-08 12:18:43
Asura.Pergatory said: »
I actually used Diverters Ring for a long time in my SMN's idle set. There was literally nothing else to use besides Evoker's Ring. Maybe Defending Ring if you had one but no one did back then.

I think that was true until the Adoulin era when we got Thurandaut, Varar, Stikini, etc.

Oh sure I always wanted it, but it's all jobs and realistically just gives MP+15 for them. I don't really know why this ring was all jobs. MP+15 wasn't good and who is going to sub SMN and gain benefit from Avatar: Enmity+2
By Shadowmeld on 2025-10-08 11:55:19
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
-Arke set has no Magic Evasion (gives -DT); the tradeoff is you receive more TP per hit received at the expense of taking significantly higher magic damage.

I thought the tradeoff for arke was you get all the resist debuff stuff without the magic evasion
By Akumasama on 2025-10-08 11:49:07
I use the following:

Group1
Helix 5/5
Sublimation 5/5

Group2
Focalization 4/5
Enlightenment 1/5
Stormsurge 5/5


Focalization was from a long time ago when I felt it made a difference during Tabula to land strong helixes.
Nowadays it's probably no longer useful to me but I've been lazy to change it.
By frodnonnag on 2025-10-08 11:49:02
Genoxd said: »
Asura.Frod said: »
Dodik said: »
It's fake, you can stop biting.
It's real. In true SE fashion, their way to limit it to 4 is the dumbest *** thing ever.

I don't think it's the dumbest thing ever. We originally had the ability to add over 4 accounts. They took that away. If I was working on this, I'd have just left as much of the code there as I could. Product people change their mind 30 times per second. Considering they obviously had horrible source control management, this is the safest way. You don't want the product people coming back in 6 months telling you to undo the change and then the guy who originally wrote it left the company and you deleted all the code and have to figure it out from scratch again.

Their way of doing it is to not load the add new button if there is four accounts or more. The ui and backend can hold somewhere around 25 accounts.
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