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Possibly, but in timed events like Odyssey or Sortie you can't apply the time gains from the porter moogle to your timer inside the event, so this comparison kinda falls apart.

I think "bis" is a bit of a silly term in FFXI as well, sure, but there are definitely bis pieces for plenty of sets (WAR relic head for Warcry) and, crucially, for a specific set of circumstances there is still a bis piece for each action for each slot.

"bis" in other games might be "never take it out of this slot" but in this game it means "best in slot for this particular action under these particular circumstances." If you don't understand that (not referring to anyone in particular here) then you have a misunderstanding about the way FFXI works, IMO.

If only there was some Limbus-related currency that these NMs could drop a sizeable chunk of, but then they'd have to design a whole system to spend that currency, probably like new gear upgrades for every job, there's no way they'd have time to build that.

Sarcasm aside, even if they dropped as many points as a `???` I bet folks would be much more likely to participate. Make it like DI where it's based on participation and not just being alive when the thing dies.

Also definitely 100% drop rate when 100% of the NMs were killed last month; it just makes sense consider opening a chest means ~25 teleports and 500+ kills.

Bonus: NM drops more points for every player matching its job. Could lead to some fun shouts for lesser played jobs and a chance for folks to dust off the old SMN or BST for this.

BIS doesn't really work for FFXI. In other games, all your stats are coming from gear that scales based on item level. We don't have uniform stats on our gear sets and we long since left the trend of ilvl gear scaling anyway.

Best in situation is probably more applicable for FFXI, but who wants to make a guide with the 50 different TP sets you might need depending on whether you need to maximize damage, rush 3k effective, not die to AoE or magical damage, deal with the 2H MNK that turned on you.... ect.


Beyond a certain point, the amount of time you save rotating your gear optimally is about the same amount of time you'd save if you skipped going to the moogle and putting away slips...

Make the rate 100% for killing all 44 NMs and I'd personally go out and kill all 44.

I've not asked you to provide math (I said mapped). I asked you to provide proof (which you implied you had).

Is that not obviously condescending?

Not to dig up this corpse of a post but....

BLU is also on Pinga, so their BiS FC legs are Pinga+1 with 13 FC, not Enif Cosciales. Not even close.

Sorry this is a few days late. I've bolded the statement that really proves my point above. If you hit attack cap without soul voice on floors 1,2,3, then why would you use soul voice on those floors and not save it for the 1 floor that you need it to stay attack capped. If you don't have soul voice on floor 4, then don't use PDL at all, which was my whole thing.

How many situations have you mapped out in the game where you know that you can use 10% PDL but not 20% PDL. Do you know any? I don't.

Boy, if only you were on your server. Then it could help you.

We definitely are.


Absolutely. I suppose what I was trying to say is that using the sim vs. an eyeball approach helps to quantify the difference between two pieces for whatever specific metric you're interested in.

In this case, simming Tali'ah/Gleti's/Malignance and comparing average rounds to WS would allow for a more precise picture than "6 TA > 11 STP, ergo BiS".

I don't think older gear being omitted from the sim tool was meant as a snub for casual players, more that those players aren't looking to min/max their sets enough for a sim tool to be useful.

Kinda surprised they havent popped up a +3 or reforged ambu set to keep them relevant as starer gear, but i guess theres not enough ody/sortie level content yet.

Lack of exercise is the leading cause of flab.

Starch is a great source of energy, but that energy needs to be spent.

Life is the leading cause of death.

Starch, especially combined with fat, is the leading cause of flab.

Want fries with that?

I, for one, enjoy tanking Halos on WHM.

The problem is theres no incentive to be the group to be the ones to kill the NM's. Its not even like people doing the climb can just jump in if they see someone fighting them because they're built with so much OHKO potential. So soloers and groups doing the climb wont be prepared to fight them, and theres no safe way to just jump in and assist, which is what SE envisioned would happen based on the fact they made claim irrelevant on them and anyone can jump in.

You realize you're talking about freaking precast gear here, right? You shouldn't be sitting in a fast cast body long enough to be eating a bunch of physical damage as a WHM doing a segment run, unless you're using the WHM to pull whole packs and supertank them or something. Blame yourself or God the party if your WHM is eating physical damage in a segment run, not the Inyanga body.

Are you gonna say you'd prefer BRDs to just sing shorter songs every time to avoid OH NO, AMBUSCADE GEAR I MIGHT TAKE A PHYSICAL HIT due to using their BiS song duration legs? Because that would be pretty foolish! And guess what, I have indeed been hit with physical damage before when singing BRD songs. I still want my longer songs, thanks. And they're AMBUSCADE GEAR. Whoops, I forgot to throw it in the trash because I'm too good for Ambu gear.

As someone who has MM45, top end gear, completely solo, even at V0, the T3s are still quite challenging as a solo, and I have died a few times soloing them. I doubt many "casual players" can kill most or all of the T3s for a set of armor; it's not a simple dps kill.

Now I do agree the Odyssey sets are way better than anything else, and they should grab those sets and make them their priority vs previous sets.

Our second semester here had no holidays, so I wish I could have some days off.

It is being way harder than I thought working 3 days/week at office.

Im completely certain that if they decide to make it 4 or 5 days at office, Im quitting in the first day.

"One shot a lot"? More of an issue of the person building the set if that's the case, unless you mean multiple mobs wailing on you. I doubt a melee hit or two in Inyanga +2 will one shot a whm. You can throw on a Malignance Pole, -PDT Ambu cape, a couple of -DT rings and still rock the full set if you wanted to without issue (I have done this lazily healing like CoD or 130 Limbus a while back). It just happens to be that even Empyrean +2/3 is better anyways, so you normally wouldn't use Inyanga. But I do have an idle set that uses Inyanga +2 for some Refresh ticks, and I don't feel particularly squishy in the set since I compensate for the PDT elsewhere.

I did warn how badly the server kill system was for smaller servers as far as matter drop rate was concerned. Yeah everyone was killing NMs regularly the first few weeks and it was no prob bob, until attrition set in, then everyone got smart (several weeks late), and nobody cared anymore/grind was unrewarding. Now the drop rate on matters sucks for everyone*.

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Inyanga set is kind of an abberation to the rest of Ambu+2 sets. It has exceptionally high Magic Evasion and Magic Defense Bonus. So much that it's not a defensive liability at all. So at the very least on that front, the argument that the piece is too squishy to use doesn't apply.


When does it make sense to wear Ambu (any other) gear [option]? The problem with sims are that they ignore any element of what is hitting you, and spits out the "best" combination of gear to deal the most damage while mitigating whatever value of damage you input. It's not a true representation of "BIS" for a generic TP set, just that when combined with other gear would output "more" dps than another option. The Sim is leaving out the fact that you're probably taking "more" damage or getting enfeebled "more", so the term "BIS" is completely subjective.

I think you guys are all speaking past each other and speaking from two different perspectives, where you should just meet in the middle and talk on the same topic.

First day back at work and wow was it a ghost town. A lot of people that called off, not wanting to work for free I guess.

I'm all for using ambu gear when it makes sense to do so, but out of the 50~odd pieces of +2 armor and ten rings, most of it will likely be relegated to niche status eventually. That said, I can see the value of including it in the sim if only to demonstrate when you shouldn't use it.

I'm not sure that 1TA = 2 STP is entirely accurate. It might be fine for ballpark comparisons, but I would not use ballpark math to declare a piece BiS.

It's HQ Pinga. +1% FC over Inyanga, is also BiS FC for SCH, and even has a place on BLU for White Wind fast recast/max HP shenanigans.
Inyanga is not bad, nobody is looking down on WHM who use it - but it is not, in fact, BiS.