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By detlef on 2025-10-22 07:10:55
Triboulex and Dhartok are probably the two easiest without BRD/GEO because you can land a guaranteed Distract on them.
By Pantafernando on 2025-10-22 06:12:39
The elk story actually renewed my hope in humanity.

The idea that predators while feels like strong and domnating.

In a long run, as long as the good can persevere the hardships.

They will be the last one standing.

The predators will fall earlier. Simly because their way of life is just not sustaintable.

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By . on 2025-10-22 06:07:00
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By Lakshmi.Sahzi on 2025-10-22 05:37:18
By . on 2025-10-22 00:54:12
This year was definitvively one of the coldest I have ever experienced at this city.

Worst than the coldest, the flutuation is insane.

We had a cold week, then a hot one, now again a pretty cold.

This variation is normally way more dangerous to cause colds and flus. RIght now Im about to have a cold due to those abrupt changes.
By Akumasama on 2025-10-22 00:50:17
Bismarck.Sterk said: »
I find myself enjoying the 27-28 acc on Ephramad's as much as the STR/PDL. WS sets typically find themselves at much lower acc values than TP sets, and Ephramad's helps alleviate that a bit. Ephramad's is also useful for both single and multi-hit WSs while Cornelia's is moreso limited to single-hit WSs.
Yes to both, absolutely, but Cornelia also has +10 Acc, inferior but it does have some.
Furthermore there's hardly any relevant multihit WS for SAM, since we're discussing it for this job and not in general.
By darkwaffle on 2025-10-22 00:45:31
Thanks for the input, most of what I've read indicates Triboulex should probably be the next target. It certainly sounds a lot more straightforward. We're mostly around Empyrean+2.5 in terms of equipment level and between 10-20 ML. No REMA weapons aside from my own Twashtar and Terpsichore.

As far as roles go RDM is of course enfeebling and then healing/MBing, Scholar is primarily buffs and nukes/MB, SMN is healing mostly. I think we are getting all the important buffs/debuffs out there although maybe not Warcry and we do not have anyone able to Impact currently. SCH has a passing interest in GEO and I've got BRD almost up and running but I don't think anyone else will play either of them (or WHM) anytime soon.

Taking into account some recent frustrating attempts at other content I think we're just uncoordinated and do crap damage. Two dagger users and no GEO/BRD isn't doing us any favors admittedly but when you have the same problems doing most content then the content itself probably isn't the problem lol.
By Felgarr on 2025-10-21 22:21:39
Valefor.Keylesta said: »
Felgarr said: »
Link? lol
Link is in the original post "Download from Github repo".

Ah, I was viewing from mobile on the time of my Link request, so I thought this first post on page 2, was a completely new thread. Thanks!
By Seun on 2025-10-21 20:45:12
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Seun said: »
The point is that you can clear a seg run in 23 minutes or you can clear in 27 minutes, but the effort and reward are the same.

Uh, not all groups can clear a seg run in 30 minutes!


You're indicating a skill issue to make a point about gear? I think you can do better than this.
By Keyser on 2025-10-21 20:42:16
Felgarr said: »
Link? lol
Link is in the original post "Download from Github repo".
By Shadowmeld on 2025-10-21 20:37:10
Dodik ~Probably said: »
If you felt it was condescending patronizing, that is probably more a reflection on you, in my opinion.
By maletaru on 2025-10-21 20:23:47
OK, just to clarify so we're all on the same page here though...

Dodik has tested extensively so he knows exactly which PDL value (0, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25) to use on every single pack of the 46 mobs in Sheol: C, for each of the 4 different floors (184 unique mobs) and knows this whether songs are SV or not, whether Aria is on, and whether Aria is stage 4 or 5, and adjusts this based on the result of the Chaos roll he has active...

But he doesn't want to share that information, because it's too complicated. So he's asking you to test it for yourself.

That's just Sheol C, of course...how about Ou, Gin, Kin, Dhartok, Aita, Perfidien, every Apex and Locus mob, and all 17 Gaol bosses at all 25 vengeance levels?

Of course it's easy to always toggle back and forth between his 7 PDL sets to make optimal use of every WS, since he did all the testing. Now you should do it too.
By Dodik on 2025-10-21 20:07:36
Test it. And. Find out.
By maletaru on 2025-10-21 20:06:03
With all due respect, this entire conversation is missing Shadowmeld's point entirely.

He's said, repeatedly, that he doesn't believe in having multiple tiers of PDL sets and he doesn't personally use them. He's also said it's difficult to know on a mob-by-mob basis exactly how much PDL he needs to use. He's asked others if they know exactly how much PDL to use in each situation and then swap into that exact amount of PDL.

In return, everyone is mansplaining how PDL works.
By . on 2025-10-21 19:35:33
By Shadowmeld on 2025-10-21 19:20:10
Dodik said: »
Why don't you just test your sets, add/take off some pdl where there are other options, and see if dmg goes up or down.

You can choose to have 15 different ws sets, or go with 2 after testing a couple options.

I have, I have no problem dealing damage with my setup. My experience with PDL apparently has been vastly different from yours for some reason.
By Sogoro on 2025-10-21 19:17:14
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By Jinxs on 2025-10-21 19:09:34
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
Can you read? That's why I have a 0% PDL set.

Edit: You guys are acting like I'm over here running around in a max pdl set fighting sheol gaol bosses with trust... and have the ironic gall to ask if I'm dense.

Sure.
Your answer is based on how much defense down you can apply
more defense down : more pdl can be used.

Assuming you are running around with brd and cor buffs.
You are at the starting gate.

The more defense down the more you can make swaps
its really easy to explain/gear with dnc because its got great swaps
like the pdl ammo and the pdl earring that allow you to keep some of the more intensive wsd pieces while adding more pdl.
and you are boxsteping everything
By Dodik on 2025-10-21 19:09:27
By Nariont on 2025-10-21 18:59:04
Depends on setup, and content as sortie/gaol level nms resist def down if its not ooze/angon. If you just want a blanket amount, no ws;

Dia 3 + LS: 23%
steps: 5~23%
Ooze: 33%
Frailty: varies on content and how nerfed bubbles are but idris base is about 20% before boosted JA at 50% nerf iirc

Now the other end of that is how much can you skyrocket your atk and not need def down, this is primarily for trash and the answer is quite a lot +7 crooked chaos on just a lucky is already +56% atk bonus, no 11, no drk bonus so thats 15%~ lost atk boost. Multiplying off a already sky high base atk from hm/minuets you can get to stupid levels
By Jinxs on 2025-10-21 18:39:51
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
The argument has never been about which vr ring to choose.

From the start I've been trying to answer this question.

If I'm in a position where I think PDL gear is affecting the damage of a WS, how much PDL gear should I use:

My argument is that you should use all of it. If you have 30% that is relevant you should use 30%. If you only have 20% that is relevant, then just use 20%. You're never going to know if you're only actually using 10% (Unless you've done extensive testing to know for sure that).

Cornelia's, Ephramad's, Lehko's, makes no difference to me. Each has very valid use cases.

The one caveat is that you do have access to PDL gear that isn't relevant, specifically R30 Mpaca's hose, I don't think there is any real scenario where the PDL from that item provides more benefit over Nyame path B.



HOW MUCH DEFENSE DOWN CAN YOU APPLY
By NynJa on 2025-10-21 17:57:05
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
I mean...you could go to MMM for 5 minutes and reset them.
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By Llewelyn on 2025-10-21 17:37:48
I mean, Ou doesn't even attack while readying his 30-second Prophylaxis move so yeah, that's one situation where you don't need defensive gear. Not that I'd bother making the change myself since I've gotten rid of my low M.Eva gear a long time ago.
By NynJa on 2025-10-21 17:07:37
If you're planning to do multiple Ou runs, you probably shouldnt be relying on 1hr as part of the strat.
By Felgarr on 2025-10-21 16:44:00
Link? lol
By Shadowmeld on 2025-10-21 16:32:06
Bismarck.Sterk said: »
I find myself enjoying the 27-28 acc on Ephramad's as much as the STR/PDL. WS sets typically find themselves at much lower acc values than TP sets, and Ephramad's helps alleviate that a bit. Ephramad's is also useful for both single and multi-hit WSs while Cornelia's is moreso limited to single-hit WSs.

There are alway's tradeoffs. Cornelia's is useful for magic WS (not that sam has pure magic ws that are worth using, but I have done hilarious Thunder/Raiden thrusts on occasion). Ephramad's is completely useless for those.
By Shadowmeld on 2025-10-21 16:30:08
You're still trying to make this a comparison between Ephramad and Cornelia. I don't care about that comparison, that's easy. Do you want an all the time bonus, pick Cornelia. Do you want a decent WS ring, that is BIS when the right conditions are met, pick Ephramad. When ephramad is decent it will never be better than Cornelia, everyone understands that, but when it is better than Cornelia, it's better. Make you're choice. If you don't like it, wait for a weekly reset and make you're choice again.

Asura.Sechs said: »
For the rest, Nynja already perfectly replied to you. Love it or hate it but there is no one-fits-all answer to the PDL answer. It's the main reason why some people don't love PDL after all, no?

There is not a one-size-fits-all answer only if you want to make it needlessly complicated.

Anecdotal/theoretical example aside, unless you've actually gone into sheol c and figured out the def value of all 27* mob types in the content, you'll never know from mob to mob what you need.

Then again, I've never been one of those people that has 20 different acc sets for melee. That was always just needlessly convoluted to me.
By Llewelyn on 2025-10-21 16:28:47
I find myself enjoying the 27-28 acc on Ephramad's as much as the STR/PDL. WS sets typically find themselves at much lower acc values than TP sets, and Ephramad's helps alleviate that a bit. Ephramad's is also useful for both single and multi-hit WSs while Cornelia's is moreso limited to single-hit WSs.
By gavroches on 2025-10-21 16:24:30
Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
Phoenix.Gavroches said: »
NM are not solo friendly for sure, but they are not difficult with 6 people. Shiva seems to have taken down their NMs, look like we done on Phoenix as well. They take 10 min tops. Just glad it’s for the month now.

I'm no game developer, but that sounds like bad game development. 10min monthly content?

Per NM, 4 max a day, per zone (x2)= 44 NM or about 440 min worth of fight a month per server, 80 min a day for 5 days, if you focus on that. Most server have only a few team (Amarok on Phoenix probably did the most) that want to tackle it, so that’s enough in my opinion. Also, easier said than done, Asura, bahamut, Odin… isn’t done yet and they have way more ppl than us.
By talaya on 2025-10-21 16:21:45
Asura.Vyre said: »
Love the pic Tally :D

Just had a funny thought about your name.

Been saying it in my head as Tally Wally. Like Tally-mark and Wally the same way...

But has it actually been Tall-ee, Wall-ee, this whole time!? :O

Yep its Tah-lee wah-lee, i wanted to embrace a tarutaru version of my 04 original characters name Talaya who is a mithra haha.

Cerberus.Dekar said: »
I think it's really awesome you drew her with heterochromia (two different eye colors). I have a loved one with it and she always gets excited when she sees characters depicted with it.

Aww thats so cool! Ive always thought heterochromia was such an awesome trait and when FFXIV came out with the option i immediately gave Tally the red and green eye combo and it has stuck ever since, All art i do of her and have done of her since then has this feature!
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