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We've recently moved away from MNKx2 and started doing MNK SAM and I think it's a bit better. TP feed with 2 MNKs was a bit too risky on Aminon with our ~400 TP absorbs and I wanted to try something with a bit more breathing room so I figured I'd give SAM a try. Our Aminon kills are a little slower, but the rest of the bosses die a bit faster, however our MNK does not have a Hoxne Ampulla, so the addition of that would probably make MNK SAM as fast as MNKx2 if not faster (MNKx2 wouldn't be able to afford either MNK to use Ampulla). Our full setup is MNK/DRG SAM/RUN COR/DRK BRD/DRK GEO/DRK RDM/WHM. Ideally the MNK would be /RUN so the SAM could /DRK for extra Absorbs during Aminon (especially Hard Mode), but our MNK isn't comfortable trying it and unfortunately he's a close friend so I have to settle with him.
Unlike with MNKx2, with MNK SAM it's acceptable for the COR, BRD and GEO to contribute some WS damage while Penance is up and SAM's Meikyo Shisui is down, though keep in mind in our setup we only have 3 Absorbers, so backline will still have Caster's Roll as one of their rolls for 12s Abs-TP timers limiting how often they can WS, but it's fine. Aminon dies fast enough to 9 boss Normal Mode comfortably with a practiced group. COR BRD and GEO might want to avoid WSing entirely if your MNK has Ampulla.
On SAM I only WS through Meditate, Meikyo Shisui, Yaegasumi and Random Deal/Wild Card resets and avoid feeding TP through auto attacks. It's not uncommon for most people to just use Gearswap to WS while disengaged, but if you don't want to do that, I put together a TP set you could use to minimize the TP you'd feed while engaged. It focuses on low accuracy, low Haste, 50 Subtle Blow, and STP wherever else. I tried limiting it to gear that either one would already own or would be simple to get.
As far as my WS sets on SAM goes, while Penance is up I ignore any Subtle Blow in my WS set and just go for full damage. If Penance is down due to bad luck with Random Deals, I'll throw on 40 Subtle Blow & Mpaca's Hose on my WSs (Chirich x2, Peiste Belt +1, Bathy Choker +1). Our RDM also uses Auspice so that puts me up to 55 SB in my WSs while Penance is down. Once you're all out of Meditates and 1 hours, you *could* play it risky and TP on it with Hasso down which I did do on our 1 Hard Mode attempt with success, but I looked at Absorb logs after the run and noticed some 400+ Absorbs, so TP at your own risk. I used this set with /WHM Auspice for 50 Subtle Blow. Without Auspice you'll need to throw in 9 more SB somewhere. It has 22% Haste and 0 Multi-Attack to avoid excessive TP feed. Unfortunately all of SAM's Subtle Blow II options have TA or QA which is dangerous if it procs, so I settle for 50 SB with 0 multi-attack.
Aside from Aminon, the only other boss that I imagine people might have questions about is H boss. For him I TP in 70 Subtle Blow (capped SBI, Dagon, Niqmaddu, Mpaca Hose) and WS in the 55 Subtle Blow set I mentioned above. SAM alternates Mumei/Fudo and MNK alternates Tornado Kick/Raging Fists to avoid creating any SCs that will heal Aita. Open with Chi Blast. Aside from the forced TP move he'll do at the start, he shouldn't get another TP move off until under 20%. After which it's a simple reposition and Panacea if anyone was afflicted by a Fetter's DoT and finish him off.
I've been enjoying my time in Sortie tackling Aminon a different way from most groups and I hope maybe some other groups looking to spice things up (or just don't have anyone with DNC like our group) will give it a try. |
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Does anyone have a synth material yet? Where do they come from? (Both NMs and chests? Just the new central zones in Apollyon and Temenos?) Has anyone made a new equipment yet? I am curious to what the full augments are.
Someone sold the material on our server, so it's clearly obtainable. Not someone I know so I haven't heard where, but assuming gobbie box?
I don't believe anyone can make the gear yet, because the uncursing thing comes from the box upgrades, which haven't happened yet?
This is definitely speculation, but the best I know ATM.
yes, the materials and the NQ piece can come from gobbie box and has on quite a few servers |
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Fujito did announce new zones, but I'm trying to keep my expectations low...
100%, don't let expectations grow out of hand.
That having been said, the epilogue quest of tVR teased giving players access to Rhazowa...
Sounds awesome, but... a new continent would almost, more than likely mean a whole new expansion. How likely is that to happen at this stage of the games life? |
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Fujito did announce new zones, but I'm trying to keep my expectations low...
100%, don't let expectations grow out of hand.
That having been said, the epilogue quest of tVR teased giving players access to Rhazowa... |
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It depends on whether they use a Path A/B/C approach or make it random. They probably did A/B/C, so probably yes.
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Is it possible to datamine the augments before the gear is obtained or are we stuck waiting in anticipation?
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By on 2025-12-11 03:54:30 |
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By on 2025-12-11 03:52:27 |
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Quote: You can add and reforge augmentations to your crafted equipment with the Temenos Furnace or Apollyon Furnace.
The process requires purification items and units corresponding to the relevant equipment.
Also, the augmentation can be transferred to a different piece of equipment.
In order to transfer the augmentation, trade both the original and new pieces of equipment to the Temenos Furnace or Apollyon Furnace after meeting the requirements listed below.
Note: The source item will be lost during the transfer process.
1.Both items are the same type of attire and for the same body part.
2.The target item is of higher quality than the source item.
3.3The target item does not already have an augmentation.
So really just hinges on what those are for a lot of the pieces |
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Do they have augments? The base stats on the pieces are kind of high, but the special stats suck, so actually augments could fix them.
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It happened before.. and SE patched it before. It was not intended.
Resolved issues.
Quote: The issue in Limbus wherein the player still took some damage upon being attacked by certain notorious monsters, even when the player was invincible. Now, in this case this was only them patching the issue for Invincible, but to my mind it introduces a lot of room for this to all be bugged as ***when something that major is going on. Hopefully they'll address it all and not just invincible/sentinel related issues this time. |
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That's only because you still haven't seen the godly augments!
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Some of the pieces look interesting for pet jobs, but I'm kind of unenthusiastic about the sets.
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Does anyone have a synth material yet? Where do they come from? (Both NMs and chests? Just the new central zones in Apollyon and Temenos?) Has anyone made a new equipment yet? I am curious to what the full augments are.
Someone sold the material on our server, so it's clearly obtainable. Not someone I know so I haven't heard where, but assuming gobbie box?
I don't believe anyone can make the gear yet, because the uncursing thing comes from the box upgrades, which haven't happened yet?
This is definitely speculation, but the best I know ATM. |
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who is talking about Fomor or even Mannequins? That was sandworm, adamantoise & mantis.
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I haven't read too much on the fomor NMs pre-patch, but I noticed similar behavior on PLD. Sentinel didn't do anything. Neither did blocks. Didn't see any difference with low or high Defense. Rampart helped slightly, as did DT. However, I did not see a change specifically using PDT (expected based on Sentinel results) or MDT. Is it possible the auto attacks are breath damage? Or some other sort of non-elemental damage?
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By Johnb on 2025-12-11 01:58:26 |
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Does anyone have a synth material yet? Where do they come from? (Both NMs and chests? Just the new central zones in Apollyon and Temenos?) Has anyone made a new equipment yet? I am curious to what the full augments are.
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Or samurai seigan 3rd eye meta...?
(Laugh all you want but it worked vs some fomor nms really well)
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By Zeig on 2025-12-11 01:10:18 |
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I found out about this one by mistake while trying to go down my inventory one page at a time (hit Alt instead of Ctrl) a while ago (and it freaked me out a little lol). I just assumed it was something they added through the years, and that people who have been playing for a while probably knew about it.
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Bismarck.Vespertaru said: »WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Its just localization error on the copy paste, I'm still getting the HP and what not from Masque
Idk how they messed that up, but that seems like the text for the new craftable items.
Yeah, im still getting the stats from it too. I just noticed it too and came here to see if anyone else had the problem lol. |
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By tuefen on 2025-12-11 00:21:13 |
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I am useing joy2key but some versions dont work and u always need to start it as admin or else alt tab or alt tab shift dont work
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It's also worth noting this "problem" is the worst in the early stages of primes, and becomes less significant in the later stages.
Stage 3: 1m muffins/month spendable (33,333/day)
Stage 4: 1.25m muffins/month spendable (41,666/day)
Stage 5: 1,666,666 muffins/month spendable. (55,555/day)
So even if someone is currently stuck at stage 4, they could actually still just be on normal pace for stage 5.
Also also: if you're getting a lot of stage 4 weapons, this "problem" will be especially pronounced.
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Quetzalcoatl.Leopoldo said: »/equip BP timers set
/blood pact
wait 1
/equip BP dmg set
I figured the wait 1 time would be too long, but it. still will flop the new set in before it goes off?
Yes, it's fine and more than quick enough. BPs take a while to go off because the pet is doing the animation to get ready to do the thing.
Source: I've been using this style of macro for SMN for years. |
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By Reiden on 2025-12-10 23:53:31 |
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Here's an explanation of how I got to my conclusion. Let me know where I went wrong in reading your message
For real though, I'm not super elitists pos but there (other than Ody V25 that you only have to beat once) no real challenging content in the game that sets hardworking players out from average Joe. No, primes do not. A prime is locked behind 6 months of psyches, 6 months is 180 days so to make 7,500,000 galli you technically only need to make 42k a day. Animon is not hard.
There are no challenges in modern ffxi other than v25 ody.
This makes it difficult to set yourself apart from average Joes.
Primes don't count (as setting yourself apart)
Prime can be acquired in 6 months at (incorrect math goes here)
That only requires 42k a day (I take this to mean: not a very hard run)
Aminon isn't hard
And uh... my conclusion that your post means "Sortie is not hard" is...wrong somehow?
Side note: the idea that people are locked behind psyches at this point is insane. Psyches came out years ago and have been available every month since. Are there really people out there with 0 psyches, starting a prime? What is the scenario, here? Someone who hasn't played for the last 3 years and now suddenly jumped into an 8 boss group running 7 days a week for 6 months straight without missing a day? Very few, if any, players are sitting on muffins they can't spend because they're out of psyches.
Lol when i started Sortie I couldn't care less about finishing TVR, now I am gated by psyches and not points. On a good note, I get a stg 4 this month. |
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By Jakey on 2025-12-10 23:33:13 |
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Ninja tank meta incoming!
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Its how fomor NMs seemingly work so while i doubt it, could be intentional
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/equip BP timers set
/blood pact
wait 1
/equip BP dmg set
I figured the wait 1 time would be too long, but it. still will flop the new set in before it goes off? |
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WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Its just localization error on the copy paste, I'm still getting the HP and what not from Masque
Idk how they messed that up, but that seems like the text for the new craftable items. |
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Well, the NMs in CN Apollyon are pulling that "Sentinel doesn't work" *** again. Code [12:14:29]Martel uses Sentinel.
[12:14:31]Blocked! The Ischyros・Sandworm hits Martel for 725 points of damage.
[12:14:31]Blocked! The Ischyros・Adamantoise hits Martel for 530 points of damage.
[12:14:31]Blocked! The Ischyros・Mantis hits Martel for 1458 points of damage.
[12:14:35]Blocked! The Ischyros・Sandworm hits Martel for 729 points of damage.
[12:14:39]Blocked! The Ischyros・Sandworm hits Martel for 731 points of damage. And... looking at a single unblocked hit sample.. and how it's basically the same damage as the blocked hits... I don't think shield blocks are working right on these either. Code [12:14:52]The Ischyros・Sandworm hits Martel for 883 points of damage.
[12:14:55]Blocked! The Ischyros・Sandworm hits Martel for 823 points of damage.
[12:14:55]Blocked! The Ischyros・Sandworm hits Martel for 828 points of damage.
[12:14:55]Blocked! The Ischyros・Sandworm hits Martel for 820 points of damage. Time for more evasion/shadow tanking, I guess. 
Thanks Nick! emergency maintenance for this or something else? |
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Nah you can't get two KIs in one box. Literally never seen it ever, and I have done an awful lot of Abyssea.
You can have two boxes spawn in the exact position, open both, and each has a different KI while looking to an onlooker like it's the same box, though.
The Rare item pops for preliminary mobs, though, yeah you can see multiple of the same or different in the same box. Perfect, thanks! I was pretty sure, but I never want to rule anything out when I'm trying to figure out exactly how awful something can be. (It's Glavoid, obviously.)
(Certainly don't mind multiple of the same Rare pop, that's why they gave us that lovely "add all lottable spoils to treasure pool" button.) |
