Racist Or Lazy?

Some NAs just get a little butt hurt and QQ whenever something seems to be "slightly" racist. Not everything is racists. JP Only = Easier communication; pure and simple.

Even if you know every aspect of this game doesn't mean you can understand how a JP group is going to do something; experienced this with a Valk run I did with some JP. They clearly said 50 times not to attack the NM before chainspell and they said "Full attack! -> Chainspell" and all this NA read was full attack and QD'd the NM forcing us to wipe and waste a glass.

It has nothing to do with race. Just like for NA's it's easier to talk strategies in English then trying to auto translate everything and confuse someone who isn't English native.

It's not a race issue it's a language barrier issue.

Yes.

Please invite me -> 入れてください。

Exactly, but a lot of English speaking people think you can translate word for word to get the same meaning in Japanese. Which isn't the case. English is a VERY hard language to learn if it's not your native language. Even if "it's like a second language" to Japanese; not everyone feels comfortable speaking it to english speaking people for the fact most Americans are quick to judge and it's not a comfortable language to speak in general for English nonspeaking.

Hello grammar nazi's.

I think it's funny there is always a random Japanese vs English discussion but I never come across any issues with the other languages in the game.

I've personally seen French, German, Spanish, & Portuguese. Been in parties where I somehow am the only English speaker or the other(s) doesn't speak because we're the minority spoken language. What happens? Exactly what you see when the Japanese person is the minority: Silence, random mis-tell (sometimes to the other minority), their language and/or auto-translate, silly macros. It really isn't any different. Your reaction is all that is.

If you feel inadequate because of the language barrier then you apologize as best you can and leave or you grin 'n bare it. Some people just drop; yea that's rude, but it isn't culture specific.

If I get ignored, or language only'd its irritating but so are people in general. We all want to be comfortable and sometimes putting up with a barrier is just too much work. It's like when I wanna get all grammar Nazi on someone. "OMFG spell out the word, I don't speak stupid," is how I feel. But instead I ignore it or bare with it... unless it's just too god awful to comprehend then it's apologize and bow out lol

Yes.

Please invite me -> 入れてください。 What is going into where via which means is left entirely ambiguous.

You guys are reading into things that you should not be, and it's maddening to watch. Applying your definition of polite/rude speech or behavior across language lines is extremely dangerous, and I think it's a telling aspect of human nature that the default assumption when presented with ambiguity is to assume hostility.

Just look at any human's natural reaction when people are talking in front of them in a language they can't understand. ("Are you guys talking ***about me?") Why do we always assume that?

"jp only" is a rude statement in English. It's even arguably racist. From a Western perspective. But the auto-translator was written for the English release, by English-speakers. It is a tremendous pain in the *** to use in Japanese because certain functionality, like the ability to type a few letters and auto-complete the token -- features that make the entire system in English -- are missing entirely or unreliable in the JP release. If the word "only" is the solitary English term you've learned in school to describe what you're trying to say, you use it. You don't sit there wondering if the second-order implications of the one word you know might sound rude or racist in the other person's language.

There are many reasons that Japanese players may want to only play with other Japanese players. Many of these reasons may not be racist. They may be reasons that, like the problems with the JP auto-trans function, you are incapable of knowing. There are legitimate racists among the JP player base, but they are no more numerous than among EN players. However, approaching a situation with the assumption of racist hostility does nothing but make it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Example: in another forum the other day, someone asked me to translate something a Japanese player said. They "rudely" dropped party with no warning, said something evidently "racist" in English, and "stormed off." The English-speaking players launched into a massive diatribe about xenophobic, elitist, thorny, hostile JP players, with some people who supposedly spoke Japanese jumping in to "translate" the JP users' statements into something that verified the original assumption.

In actuality, they didn't speak JP at all. They made it up. Or they only barely spoke JP, and filled in the blanks with their own imaginations. What the JP player actually said was that there was a sudden emergency in his family, and he needed to log out. In the polite tense. With apologies. But by that point, the thread was so self-absorbed in righteous indignation that they didn't want to hear it.

Taking what is a simple misunderstanding in phrasing and arguing backwards, all the way through centuries of history to make sweeping statements like "Japan is a closed society," with some stroke of finality as though you're qualified to define an entire nation in one sentence, is itself just as racist as what you're accusing other people of.