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Denali Bonnet or Wally Turban
 Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-08-31 11:23:03
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Its not 100% accurate, its a guide obviously. I dont have a graphing calculator or a program that can make the various line equations to find their x intersects and then detirmine when each value overtakes the other.
Might not be 100% accurate but it's accurate enough to act as a good guide :P
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2010-08-31 11:35:02
Phoenix.Icephase said: well anyway i ain't gonna spend loads of coins for it..
I'm liking the Aurore beret cos its pink ..i like it cos it got dex and agi +4 and its going cheap on AH.
tbh .. i'm a cheap dancer / ask tina turner :) lol
got 1 more level and i'mma get that pinkie beret !
lol ice xxx
the turban didnt cost me anything but time :3
and I weaponskill in afv2 head piece (also free)
and I curing waltz afv1
and I evasion setup in O hat
all r/e pieces but meh to each their own!
As long as you have fun is what I say :O
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By Phoenix.Icephase 2010-08-31 11:36:48
well anyway i ain't gonna spend loads of coins for it..cos i not got enough besieged points lol
I'm liking the Aurore beret cos its pink ..i like it cos it got dex and agi +4 and haste+4 its going cheap on AH.
tbh .. i'm a cheap dancer / ask tina turner :) lol
got 1 more level and i'mma get that pinkie beret !
lol ice xxx
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-08-31 11:37:50
Phoenix.Icephase said: well anyway i ain't gonna spend loads of coins for it..
I'm liking the Aurore beret cos its pink ..i like it cos it got dex and agi +4 and its going cheap on AH.
tbh .. i'm a cheap dancer / ask tina turner :) lol
got 1 more level and i'mma get that pinkie beret !
lol ice xxx
Turban is free just as much as Aurore gear is free, why not use what's better when it's equally easy to get? :p
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Leviathan.Angelskiss
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2010-08-31 11:45:19
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Phoenix.Icephase said: well anyway i ain't gonna spend loads of coins for it..
I'm liking the Aurore beret cos its pink ..i like it cos it got dex and agi +4 and its going cheap on AH.
tbh .. i'm a cheap dancer / ask tina turner :) lol
got 1 more level and i'mma get that pinkie beret !
lol ice xxx
Turban is free just as much as Aurore gear is free, why not use what's better when it's equally easy to get? :p
Obviously we will meet people who are going to be stubborn about their beliefs in how they want to play/what they choose to wear. To be honest, I do not understand why you are afraid of spending your Imperial standing points ~ I have my turban AND 200k ISP that only get used when I Nyzul Isle or have to go to Einjhar.
However, everyone plays their way and I respect that.. But do not say it's because it will "break you" or you will "miss the coins" because from experience, you will never know those coins are gone.
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Phoenix.Icephase
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By Phoenix.Icephase 2010-08-31 11:46:45
cos i spent my besieged points got 12k in points :(
anyhow got loads of abyssea points so its free from there for me... Yesssssssss :)
heeeeee heeee :)
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2010-08-31 11:48:29
Phoenix.Icephase said: cos i spent my besieged points got 12k in points :(
anyhow got loads of abyssea points so its free from there for me... Yesssssssss :)
heeeeee heeee :)
You have spent every one of your besieged ISP? <.< I doubt that..
it seems to me like you did not actually want advice on this matter, so why bother posting?
Edit: Even if you did spend your points , farming /crafting to BUY the coins is still imo worth getting the highest haste hat in the game for dnc.
Further Edit: Mention it to your friends, I have funded my friends' W turban for them when they needed a couple extra coins.
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By Phoenix.Slytribal 2010-08-31 11:56:31
Isn't the main aim of MMOs to better yourself? Make your character the best in it's job as it can be? So why exactly play to half *** that? You're not gonna be having much fun when you're being kicked out for someone better.
I can understand if it's a job you don't care about, but considering this involves the Turban which near every job could make use of.. It seems kinda stupid not to just party on birds, get exp and ISP, and then get Turban.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-08-31 11:59:18
Phoenix.Icephase said: cos i spent my besieged points got 12k in points :(
anyhow got loads of abyssea points so its free from there for me... Yesssssssss :)
heeeeee heeee :)
If you're gonna play like that, don't give advice because all you do is give WRONG advice.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-08-31 12:08:32
Bismarck.Dracondria said: Phoenix.Icephase said: cos i spent my besieged points got 12k in points :(
anyhow got loads of abyssea points so its free from there for me... Yesssssssss :)
heeeeee heeee :)
If you're gonna play like that, don't give advice because all you do is give WRONG advice.
Turban cost 10k ISP right? or was it 20?
If it's 20, it's just a few more Besieged.
And yeah, what the Swedish boi said!
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-08-31 12:09:14
Yeah 20k IS or buy some coins. It's really not expensive at all for such a good piece.
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By Bismarck.Enzoe 2010-08-31 12:11:25
Klimzar said: OK, i just got Denali Bonnet and i was curious which is better for DNC in a solo/duo/trio situation, and why
The more haste the merrier but if I play solo I would go with Dbonnet > turban for the defense boost (21) and eva+3 while only sacrificing 1 haste. I want to bring up Ohat but the OP distincly asked the difference btwn Dbonnet and Wally Turban. However the Ohat is nice, it has no defense, though Dancer has fan dance or whatever damage negating abilities the make lack of defense not so much of an issue.
I would go Dbonnet > Wally turban due to defense and eva.
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-31 12:20:15
Bismarck.Enzoe said: The more haste the merrier but if I play solo I would go with Dbonnet > turban for the defense boost (21) and eva+3 while only sacrificing 1 haste. I want to bring up Ohat but the OP distincly asked the difference btwn Dbonnet and Wally Turban. However the Ohat is nice, it has no defense, though Dancer has fan dance or whatever damage negating abilities the make lack of defense not so much of an issue. I would go Dbonnet > Wally turban due to defense and eva.
No... Just no. Read the thread before you post next time.
Solo situations: Turban or O Hat
Bonnet should really never be used in any situation other then lack of one of those two pieces.
Edit: If you dont agree look up the video of a DNC soloing Bune. Solo using O Hat NOT bonnet
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By Unicorn.Fosgate 2010-08-31 12:32:33
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/89717-Hitler-learns-about-the-Level-99-Cap
I the vid was removed per copyright, but the quotes still ring true.
Hitler said it best -> "What the hell do you know? You full time a Denali Bonnet"
Leviathan.Angelskiss
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2010-08-31 12:37:43
Bismarck.Enzoe said: Klimzar said: OK, i just got Denali Bonnet and i was curious which is better for DNC in a solo/duo/trio situation, and why
The more haste the merrier but if I play solo I would go with Dbonnet > turban for the defense boost (21) and eva+3 while only sacrificing 1 haste. I want to bring up Ohat but the OP distincly asked the difference btwn Dbonnet and Wally Turban. However the Ohat is nice, it has no defense, though Dancer has fan dance or whatever damage negating abilities the make lack of defense not so much of an issue.
I would go Dbonnet > Wally turban due to defense and eva.
Just No.
Solo eva setup O hat all the way. Evasion = not being hit > Def = getting hit but for less?
Just No. Turban /haste , then O hat solo/eva, then denali <.< actually I would not wear denali on my dnc I guess
Yeah. That is all.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-31 12:40:14
Well. If you're fighting EPs/DCs and your return rate for evading attacks is more or less equal than not wearing an ohat, then by all means go for your hybrid solo piece, however, IMO it's always been one or the other: Hit faster for better DPS and more weapon skills (assuming you're not taking hits), or you're fighting something hard enough where you need the DEF (or in some cases Eva).
Hybrid pieces are silly and very rarely justified.
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By Shiva.Borealis 2010-08-31 12:56:31
Turban
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-08-31 13:57:20
Shiva.Borealis said: Turban
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Haste food + Ohat!
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By Siren.Flunklesnarkin 2010-08-31 14:04:33
use w/e you're solo and not harming anybody .. gimp away ;o
If you care about doing more dmg or being best DD you can use turban.
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By Phoenix.Icephase 2010-08-31 16:21:17
OMG>>>>>>> don't take everything so serious
No.1 as for the post.. i think after all this thread.... only Angelskiss has answered the question correctly..
As it was.. originally whether to wear wally or Dbonnet.
So thanks Angelskiss for answering the question for us.
Glad i rattled a few cages though XD :)
I was just trying to say that 1 piece of gear <in itself> doesn't make a good or great player....
icephase
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2010-08-31 16:24:34
/bow
Edit.. ohey I saw Angelskiss was right in there ... Bring it back D:
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By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2010-08-31 16:31:14
Shiva.Borealis said: Turban
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lmao ^ this
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By Ifrit.Zibo 2010-08-31 16:32:52
Only time I would understand using a Bonnet is if you were a Black Belt mnk w/ footwork and poise shoes. 4+12+5+5, even then I think using Usu legs + walahra or usu mask + byakko legs would be better...
In other words, use Walahra.
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By Phoenix.Icephase 2010-08-31 16:32:56
yep... i reposted it angelskiss.. just had to edit it bit..lol
ice :)
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-08-31 16:33:16
Phoenix.Icephase said: I was just trying to say that 1 piece of gear <in itself> doesn't make a good or great player....
Part of being a good player is discerning what makes a good or bad gear choice. Denali Bonnet is clearly a bad gear choice.
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2010-08-31 16:40:07
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Phoenix.Icephase said: I was just trying to say that 1 piece of gear <in itself> doesn't make a good or great player....
Part of being a good player is discerning what makes a good or bad gear choice. Denali Bonnet is clearly a bad gear choice.
Someone once said great gear does not in fact make a great player, it only highlights the really bad ones, and enhances the good ones.
skill+gear>skill> Gear
My whm may not wear a Aristocrat's coat, or a Torque+1 but I can tell you that many people in my ls send me tells asking for me to be their whm. /shrug.
Digressed but while I agree, one cannot say gear is the be all end all anymore.
Egamingsupply = bought relic acct= ubernoob /em doesnt know how to use a sleep macro
amirite?
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By Ramuh.Guffy 2010-08-31 16:46:06
I think I will be using Denali Bonnet on Monk once I get Poise Shoes and use Foot Work. With Poise (5%), B Haidate (5%), Black Belt (12%), and Denali Bonnet (4%) I reach haste cap and the 1% extra from Turban isn't needed anymore, I think this is a situation where Denali Bonnet is better than W Turban.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-08-31 16:46:58
Why does everything think you should have 1 tp and eva set? I have 5 different sets for tping and eva each (not including special set or gear)
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-08-31 16:52:20
*** it.
Let them wear what they want.
It just lets everyone else know who the idiots are.
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OK, i just got Denali Bonnet and i was curious which is better for DNC in a solo/duo/trio situation, and why
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