Did SE Kill MNK @ Vanafest 2010?
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Did SE kill MNK @ vanafest 2010?
Mnk CAN put up good numbers don't mean they do. Only 5ish mnk on fairy i'd consider inviting to a pt. The rest, I could beat on my pup NOW as it is before the update.
and what are you talking about 8% haste? pup can get 21 (23 w/ nsash), which puts mnk 4(2)% ahead.
Oh yeah, I forgot about all the mnks running around with nsash since everyone is killing AV these days >.> The overwhelming majority of pups will be rocking swift belt until SE decides to let us kill AV again. So yes, mnk has access to a belt with 8% more haste.
You're also forgetting Velocious Belt.
did you even read what I said? I was talking about total haste, not 1 slot. Zomg who cares how much you can get in 1 slot, it's total that matters most. 21 (w/o nsash) vs 25, 4% difference.
pup can't wear velocious (only reason i haven't tossed my swift)
O...Velocious Isn't all jobs, my bad. I don't have one so i just assumed all jobs could.
Yea i figured that out when I solo'd KA and couldn't equip it on mnk
About pups beating MNK's...Your pup Vegetto yeah i can see that easily...but the majority of pups arent running around in full Usukane. Then again neither are most MNK's. Either way 300 base delay on a MNK vs. 360 base delay on a pup plays a large factor in DoT.
Lol, I've never even camped KA...I Should for SAM though.
Capped dex (117) for pummel on birds and 1.5k armor piercer will easily make the difference imo
Yeah, not sure where the velocious belt comment came in but even rocking max haste setup pup hits 21% at most (i'm not even gonna count nsash until AV is beatable). Please re-read my first post. What I said is that mnks can wear black belt, which gives them access to 8% haste that pups will never see. Pups won't see that 8% b/c they'll never be able to rock black belt. They can achieve haste in other gear slots, but not without losing the benefits of wearing full usu. I really think this argument is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
But you aren't the majority of PUP's Vegetto. Im just talking most PUP's not the uber WTF is that even a PUP, PUP's.
You're HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE if you think 1 individual slot matters. I may as well say pup has 7 haste mnk will never if that's the case. Because they can't wear goliard saio or pantin hands.
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MNK hasnt lost anything PUP just gained the ability to do the same damage slower than MNK. A reasonable PUP would have up to 14% haste (Swift, ASA, Wally, Goliard) no Usukane aren't actually reasonable (in before Vegetto points it out) neither is NSash so thsts 4 haste. Am I missing anything?
Also Watanable is right, you'd be surprised how many PUPs suck however there is a PWN pup with Kenkonken on my server! pup has like four haste 2% shoes btw.
And i'm aware that a lot of pups suck but at the same time, so do most mnks I agree with you on that vegetto. Hell, my mnk sucks b/c i'm just not willing to do what it takes to pimp it out. Aside from having black belt, my mnk is lol. Need usu.
So up to 16% haste, however most MNKs are actually decent and can figure out not to TP in Scorp Harness. PUP is complicated and requires knowing how to activate every maneuver and weapon skill which takes time and effort to learn, most will find it a wasted effort because regardless of h2h skill it's still lolPUP.
You could probably say most people suck at any ??? job because most people dont learn the mechanics of the game and how to use gear swaps properly. So really what are we arguing about {I don't know.}
And again, most mnks are lol. There's only 5 I'd pt w/ on my server otherwise i'd take a 2hander over a mnk EVERY TIME.
As for pup, maybe I'd take 1 or 2 and me.
The amount of MNKs that know what they are doin is far greater than the amount of PUPs do, this is a PUP vs MNK argument don't bring 2-handers into the mix because that's way too many variables.
k we'll take your best mnk vs my pup then
Hmm. Either Akitafuki but GL to get her out of BD she's in iiZerg or Almalexia. So really Spharai or Glanzfaust. There's some elvaan with glanzfaust and full Usukane too but he doesn't even have Black belt... forget his name.
Edit: But there's no question PUP is better for survivability, PVP wouldn't solve any debates. haha failfaust, didn't know amalexia was on your server, looking forward to parsing vs those w/ faith baghs, actually.
Sylph.Sindri said: So really Spharai or Glanzfaust. Fairy.Vegetto said: Syncs well w/ anything rly. From the hoodest of the hood to Miley Cyrus Examples as follows deserves another spot in this thread :) So Amalexia. anyways, Faiths are good for zerging but ***'s situational, you dont wanna be hitting Dark Ixion 8 times in an attack round, that thing will kick your *** quite literally (Only example I can think of in the FFXI withdrawls).
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