Are Large Language Models Really AI?

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 Fenrir.Brimstonefox
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By Fenrir.Brimstonefox 2026-02-23 10:58:34
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I think AI is no different than most things in life: Garbage in, Garbage out. This is true of the training data, the end users input at prompts, and any attempts to filter or moderate. (also for factual or moral data).

Time would probably be better spent letting people know the output is AI (watermarks/metadata) than trying to filter it or worry about whether its right or wrong.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2026-02-23 11:40:26
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Dumb because anyone can download stable diffusion and render their own highly illegal material.

Yup - Reactor a face type software tried to make a filter that senses NSFW and then someones like well... if I use Forge SD I can buypass that..

Then they make a Lora file of the person, and it's all downhill from there...
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By Pantafernando 2026-02-23 12:39:50
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You guys are playing too much in the dark AI.

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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-02-23 12:43:31
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RadialArcana said: »
AI is not AGI and it does not think for itself as you or I do
True.

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It's trained on tainted data from the internet that is moderated with a left wing bias.
False.

Its trained on everything its creators can get their hands on. Books, magazines, scholarly dissertations, movie scrips, radio transcriptions. If the library of congress were all online they would have used the whole darn thing. They did use all of it that is.

Asura.Saevel said: »
Dumb because anyone can download stable diffusion and render their own highly illegal material.
Almost anyone can download. Not near anyone would know what to download (I had never heard of stable diffusion.) Far fewer know how to render anything. Grok and other AIs have democratized deep fake porn to where any mouth breathing 8th grade dropout can create it.

Asura.Saevel said: »
I would like to stay clear of anything political.
I agree but with this, as with economics, its difficult. For some posters its impossible.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2026-02-23 12:56:50
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Dumb because anyone can download stable diffusion and render their own highly illegal material.
Almost anyone can download. Not near anyone would know what to download (I had never heard of stable diffusion.) Far fewer know how to render anything. Grok and other AIs have democratized deep fake porn to where any mouth breathing 8th grade dropout can create it.


Super true - I know tons of people with 4080s and 5080s who don't touch the stuff - think it's stupid - others just don't care or don't want to be bothered - then you have people with 4060 8gb using guff models to make videos and art now

Ive been scratching with AI for a long time now, no expert or anything, but comfyui works along with getting someones cutting edge workflow to work, and it's getting pretty crazy what I am able to do now. Whenever I want to update my setup, I run my start-up log to Gemini or grok, and it looks online for the latest updates from GitHub, reviews forum posts to ensure its geting the best info, and then I briefly tell the AI to ensure it makes no errors so it triple-checks before telling me how to proceed
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-02-23 13:08:55
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RadialArcana said:
It's trained on tainted data from the internet that is moderated with a left wing bias.
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Its trained on everything its creators can get their hands on. Books, magazines, scholarly dissertations, movie scrips, radio transcriptions. If the library of congress were all online they would have used the whole darn thing. They did use all of it that is.

These two things aren't contradictory. Pretty much all media that's online has a moderation that is left of Radial's politics. I'm not going to argue about where the overton window is right now or what qualifies as left/right, but scrapable data is almost certainly further left than fully uncensored conversation.
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-02-23 16:08:31
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Almost anyone can download. Not near anyone would know what to download (I had never heard of stable diffusion.) Far fewer know how to render anything. Grok and other AIs have democratized deep fake porn to where any mouth breathing 8th grade dropout can create it.

SD is an opensource desktop version of what Grok / ChatGPT and the various other image AI's do behind the scenes. It uses your own GPU (or set of GPUs), you use plain text to tell it what to do and it does it. Think of photoshop filters only with AI.

https://stablediffusionweb.com

To do local install
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/

This is what I mean by "dumb" in reference to those doing bad things using online tools that track and report to federal agencies.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-02-23 16:30:00
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
These two things aren't contradictory. Pretty much all media that's online has a moderation that is left of Radial's politics.
I didn't say they were. Indeed they are complementary. Also scraping the web is way easier than ripping apart physical paper media and feeding it to scanners. (Which is legal and avoids copyright issues unlike torrenting.)

I have a feeling that the whole world is about as far left of Radial's politics as is the web.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-02-23 16:34:37
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
I have a feeling that the whole world is about as far left of Radial's politics as is the web.
I highly doubt it. I doubt he's even in the top 10 percentile of persons with those kind of convictions.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2026-02-23 16:43:29
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Asura.Saevel said: »

You are 100% right but don't use this - it hasn't been updated in a long while

Use SD forge or Comfyui

https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-forge-classic/tree/neo
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