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New games suck... or is it just me?
Asura.Eiryl
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
By Asura.Eiryl 2024-12-17 07:26:17
I mean, the thing is he's European. If an American company COULD actually do the things he said, it's literally against the law. The shareholders would sue the company.
They are obligated to put profits above all else, obligated to grow, obligated to increase share value at all cost if it's a publicly traded company.
By Afania 2024-12-17 07:28:01
FFXIV has an abnormally high percentage of women that play it, which is why it's so weird and deranged. When women make up a minority of players, the community tends to be normal (which is every other mmorpg that exists) and the women just play the game.
When the % gets too high, not only does it attract weird women that ship mamools with other mamools and write romance novels about it on twitter, but they also have literal unironic dance clubs where they perform paid dance emotes at each other with a DJ playing songs for the "club" to listen on on twitch and pay a sub just to take pics of their characters and/or mog house like anyone cares.
If doing dance club is weird, what's the normal mmorpg gameplay?
Different LS competing for world first kills and advertise about their accomplishments? Posting parses and argue optimal builds or strategy on game forums endlessly? Min maxing, raiding and grinding gears for years?
I honestly find dance club idea fun and I wish FFXI had it tbh.
By RadialArcana 2024-12-17 07:52:06
If no one buys woke games, they stop being made.
It all began with Occupy Wallstreet, or so the legend says.
There is a reason all this culture war stuff is happening, and companies are being forced to antagonize their customers in ways that are leading to mass layoffs and selloffs. It's better to have all the aggressive left wing activists busy arguing with fanboys, over star wars and video game characters, than about wealth inequality and wall street. Real world provoke mechanics, don't look at that! look at this instead.
Big mega corps like Vanguard and Blackrock will and are paying top dollar for that distraction porn, even if they lose billions when their forced policies lead to bombs. It's still worth it, cause it's a distraction away from trillion dollar business operations, so they will keep funding it.
Anyone that thinks these mega companies are left wing allies is extremely naive.
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By Afania 2024-12-17 08:00:30
If I ever want to write a conspiracy theory novel, maybe I should hire Radial.....
I can never imagine conspiracy stories like this, it's almost a talent ;0
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By Viciouss 2024-12-17 08:28:40
It's like the Ricky Gervais speach... Nobody that needs to hear it is going to listen and evaluate themselves. It's still refreshing to hear.
Wukong fans went to review bomb BG3 afterwards, it was a rough night for those guys.
By RadialArcana 2024-12-17 08:43:42
If I ever want to write a conspiracy theory novel, maybe I should hire Radial.....
I can never imagine conspiracy stories like this, it's almost a talent ;0
I mean it all makes sense if you think about it.
When mega corps like Blackrock and Vanguard intentionally lose money and force companies to destroy themselves, there is a reason for it. These are not stupid or good people, quite the opposite.
Culture war puts the plebs on both sides against each other, arguing over irrelevancies.
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By Afania 2024-12-17 08:58:20
Wukong fans went to review bomb BG3 afterwards, it was a rough night for those guys.
Chinese nationalism has been insane in the recent years. I gave Wukong dev benefit of the doubt that I assumed they didn't make games for nationalism, it is nationalists using their game for their propaganda.
Their TGA response proved I was totally wrong about them lol.
what a surprise.....ummm not really.
Right now if you talk slightly bad about Wukong in the firewall, you will be burned by angry Chinese internet mobs. Totally insane.
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By Dodik 2024-12-17 09:54:07
Nah dude, it's just virtue signalling. Oh look at us, we're progressive and care.
No, you don't. You're doing the bare minimum PR bullc**p to give the impression you gaf when you do not. Just PR nonsense, nothing more.
That companies bet their livelihoods on being woke is their loss, no one else's. People screaming loudly on twitter don't buy those games. They are not the market and could not care less.
Antoginising everyone else leaves you with a smaller market share not larger.
Vote wrt to market share, not politics.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
Serveur: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4075
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-12-17 09:59:58
It's like the Ricky Gervais speach... Nobody that needs to hear it is going to listen and evaluate themselves. It's still refreshing to hear.
Wukong fans went to review bomb BG3 afterwards, it was a rough night for those guys. https://gamerant.com/baldurs-gate-3-review-bombed-black-myth-wukong-fans/
Quote: It’s possible that a mistranslation of what Vincke said could have prompted the review bombing, as most of the negative reviews seem to be written by Chinese players despite Black Myth: Wukong’s global popularity. There are currently reports of a dodgy Chinese translation of the show, making Vincke’s marks appear to be harsher than they actually are. However, it’s also possible that some of these players are upset that they can’t take their frustrations out on Astro Bot, as the game is not available on Steam.
It wasnt Wukong fans, because there are plenty of Wukong fans across the world, it was the Chinese playerbase.
Mr. "thats a conspiracy, thats made up drivel, he backpedaled after lying, stop making stuff up" is doing the things they accuse others of doing.
Remember gents, every accusation is a confession.
Right now if you talk slightly bad about Wukong in the firewall, you will be burned by angry Chinese internet mobs. Totally insane. Even Afania has the decency to be honest with the words chosen.
By Viciouss 2024-12-17 10:26:18
It's like the Ricky Gervais speach... Nobody that needs to hear it is going to listen and evaluate themselves. It's still refreshing to hear.
Wukong fans went to review bomb BG3 afterwards, it was a rough night for those guys. https://gamerant.com/baldurs-gate-3-review-bombed-black-myth-wukong-fans/
Quote: It’s possible that a mistranslation of what Vincke said could have prompted the review bombing, as most of the negative reviews seem to be written by Chinese players despite Black Myth: Wukong’s global popularity. There are currently reports of a dodgy Chinese translation of the show, making Vincke’s marks appear to be harsher than they actually are. However, it’s also possible that some of these players are upset that they can’t take their frustrations out on Astro Bot, as the game is not available on Steam.
It wasnt Wukong fans, because there are plenty of Wukong fans across the world, it was the Chinese playerbase.
Mr. "thats a conspiracy, thats made up drivel, he backpedaled after lying, stop making stuff up" is doing the things they accuse others of doing.
Remember gents, every accusation is a confession.
Right now if you talk slightly bad about Wukong in the firewall, you will be burned by angry Chinese internet mobs. Totally insane. Even Afania has the decency to be honest with the words chosen.
Thanks for providing the link that shows everyone that it was Wukong fans.
Quote: Some Chinese Black Myth: Wukong fans are review bombing Baldur's Gate 3 on Steam.
First bullet point of the summary.
Quote: Some Black Myth: Wukong players are review bombing Baldur’s Gate 3.
First sentence of the article.
Quote: Now, some fans of Black Myth: Wukong are taking to Steam to review bomb Baldur's Gate 3.
First sentence of the third paragraph.
This was an easy one. It was Wukong fans, according to the article you posted.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Serveur: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4075
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-12-17 11:05:27
Once again, from that same link:
Quote: as most of the negative reviews seem to be written by Chinese players despite Black Myth: Wukong’s global popularity.
It was mostly Chinese Wukong fans.
I got more links, hang on:
https://www.thegamer.com/baldurs-gate-3-review-bomb-chinese-players-swen-vincke-game-awards-speech/
Quote: Over 500 negative reviews have been left since Vincke's speech, mostly by Chinese gamers, upset that Vincke thinks support via sales doesn't matter. Quote: First spotted by Reddit user Kend7510, it appears as though Chinese gamers have been attempting to review bomb Baldur's Gate 3 following Swen Vincke's speech at The Game Awards
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/baldurs-gate-3-is-being-review-bombed-by-chinese-gamers-after-the-game-awards/ar-AA1vQX47
Quote: Baldur's Gate 3 Is Being Review Bombed By Chinese Gamers After The Game Awards Quote: Over 500 negative reviews have been left since Vincke's speech, mostly by Chinese gamers, upset that Vincke thinks support via sales doesn't matter.
https://www.levelup.com/en/news/813555/Detail-of-The-Game-Awards-2024-and-its-GOTY-angered-Chinese-gamers-Black-Myth-Wukong-fans-review-bombed-acclaimed-title
Quote: Swen Vincke's speech upset several Chinese gamers Quote: Some Chinese players were clearly upset after watching The Game Awards 2024. This became evident when several of them banded together to launch a negative review bombing campaign against Baldur's Gate 3, the GOTY winner of 2023
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At the time of writing, Larian Studios’ RPG has received over 540 negative reviews from Chinese players in the last few hours. Many of these reviews mention the importance of sales in the industry, directly referencing Vincke's speech.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 4075
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-12-17 11:07:51
Of course, I'm not surprised about your stance on this. You seemed to think when RA said "FFXIV has a larger female player base compared to other MMO's", you perceived that to mean "females are the majority"
By RadialArcana 2024-12-17 11:22:58
Funny how the anti woke youtubers make so much money from corporate ads though isn't it, I find it interesting how much money they make and how much the algo pushes the content (even if I agree with it). If this was all a legit thing, they would get demonetized. All these companies would demand their ads not show on these channels going against their supposed virtuous agenda, that they willingly lose money over continually.
They want this stuff, they want the culture war, they want us arguing endlessly about how big the boobs are on some random star wars character nobody cares about. That's why they keep pushing into new areas, like how Blackrock are now heavily investing in Japan (they recently invested in many JP video game companies and vtuber corpos like hololive) to rile up people who have become contented with playing JP content (not for much longer you wont!).
https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/insights/investing-in-japan
Virtue signalling is the thing people do online to pretend they are good people or to get likes, not something corporations do that is incredibly unpopular with the masses and loses them billions of dollars.
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By Dodik 2024-12-17 11:28:56
Who's they bro. You sound a little unhinged tbh.
By Drayco 2024-12-17 11:55:18
None of this is new. Facebook figured out in the very early days that if you you push content that makes people angry, they will engage with it drastically more than if they pushed content that makes you feel good. It's been a snowball down the mountain ever since.
What always confused me was how ads can afford to pay people so much money. I never thought it was possible that the products being sold generated enough revenue to pay for these ads... but then I realized the real money doesn't come from seling the goods, it comes from turning the viewers into the goods. It's insane how valuable the data from clicks, view duration, and engagement is.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 4075
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-12-17 12:03:58
RA discovering what Ted Dibiase knew decades ago:
EVERYBODY HAS A PRICE MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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By Afania 2024-12-17 12:08:58
Facebook figured out in the very early days that if you you push content that makes people angry, they will engage with it drastically more than if they pushed content that makes you feel good. It's been a snowball down the mountain ever since.
It's true that angry posts spread faster than other types of posts. But it is not being intentionally pushed by blackrock, it is just normal human behavior.
Even way back in 2013 researchers found that angry posts spreads faster than joy/sadness/disgust on Weibo(therefore it is none of Blackrock/Meta's business)
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24158675.amp
Harvard had similar research:
https://www.library.hbs.edu/working-knowledge/hate-spreads-faster-on-twitter-evidence-from-44-news-outlets
So if you see that everyone online is fighting cultural war angrily, that's because the way human psychology and algorithm works makes those posts appear more often.
By Viciouss 2024-12-17 12:17:51
Who's they bro. You sound a little unhinged tbh.
only a little???
Also, yes, thank you for reaffirming that Wukong fans review bombed BG3, as I originally, and accurately, stated.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Serveur: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4075
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-12-17 12:28:02
People dont push back against good news
Carbuncle.Nynja
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 4075
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-12-17 12:28:55
Viciouss doubling down on being wrong
Must be a day ending in “y”
By Afania 2024-12-17 12:51:13
they want us arguing endlessly about how big the boobs are
So...Radial, when you argued about boobs on FFXIAH.com were you influenced by Blackrock too?
When big boobs were everywhere 20+ years ago feminist groups were outraged, they said it was encouraging women to get boob jobs and wanted depiction of them removed from all forms of media. Once they got enough power they literally outlawed them from all forms of media in the west, to the point you almost never see them anymore at all. Movies, video games, adverts, tv shows..everything are afraid of adding any depiction of women with big boobs, like they will get arrested if they do.
We went from all the women in our media being sexy and having big tiddies, to most of the women looking like men now. I can't even remember the last time I saw a western woman in a movie, tv show or western video game with big boobs.
However, they already had the virality from the tifa boobs video and now they are simply farming fail.
If you were influenced by Blackrock too, then you can't blame them for wanting to influence you! Because there are too many mental weaklings that would fall for it! It would be silly to give up on the good chance.
By Pantafernando 2024-12-17 13:06:14
I see Rady is a booby person.
Personally I prefer others "attributes"
By Pantafernando 2024-12-17 13:06:31
Like STR, SPD, etc
Carbuncle.Nynja
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 4075
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-12-17 13:09:36
Man coulda said ASSets
And went with “attributes”
By Pantafernando 2024-12-17 13:13:21
ASSributes
By Pantafernando 2024-12-17 13:13:43
But no, you pervy slug
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 143
By Asura.Toeknee 2024-12-17 13:48:39
Facebook figured out in the very early days that if you you push content that makes people angry, they will engage with it drastically more than if they pushed content that makes you feel good. It's been a snowball down the mountain ever since.
It's true that angry posts spread faster than other types of posts. But it is not being intentionally pushed by blackrock, it is just normal human behavior.
Even way back in 2013 researchers found that angry posts spreads faster than joy/sadness/disgust on Weibo(therefore it is none of Blackrock/Meta's business)
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24158675.amp
Harvard had similar research:
https://www.library.hbs.edu/working-knowledge/hate-spreads-faster-on-twitter-evidence-from-44-news-outlets
So if you see that everyone online is fighting cultural war angrily, that's because the way human psychology and algorithm works makes those posts appear more often.
It's funny that every conspiracy (or woke) type thinks there's some boogeyman pulling the strings, when it's they're own online behavior that's creating the echo chamber and group think they attribute to their virtual 'enemies' lol. It's all weird
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 4075
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-12-17 17:18:03
https://x.com/CivGame/status/1869119118928191949
I dont need to add anything to this. Just watch in awe about what went wrong.
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By RadialArcana 2024-12-17 20:56:33
Who's they bro. You sound a little unhinged tbh.
Blackrock and Vanugard, the trillion dollar mega corporations that bully every public company to do what they say (they are the driving force behind all this DEI/bridge stuff). The ones that would be damaged the most by another occupy wall street flaring up.
Ragnarok.Zeig
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2024-12-18 01:31:25
Woke game being made or not doesn't affect policy irl one bit. What's the point to support certain games for political ideology reasons? I think you underestimate the effect of entertainment media, especially on younger people.
So... I have been increasingly frustrated with new games over years. I feel like so much effort it placed on graphics, lighting, art style, ect and maybe 10% of that effort is placed into gameplay, controls, and story.
My latest purchase was Visions of Mana, which I was pretty excited for. Secret of Mana is in my top 5 all time, I've played Seiken Densetsu 3 translated and while I didn't think it was as good as Secret of Mana, it was still extremely enjoyable. I skipped Trials of Mana since I had already played Seiken Densetsu 3. Vision is just bad. The english voice acting was awful, the characters were bland/generic or just stupid, and I was 3hrs into the game and all I was doing to running 30seconds between CS. Felt like a slightly interactive shitty anime.
Hogwarts Legacy, Visions of Mana, Baldur's Gate 3, Starfield... I felt like all of these super hyped games were absolute duds. Final Fantasy 16 is coming to PC in a few weeks and I'm not sure if I even want to try it anymore. I've heard people say not great things about it.
I know I'm just venting a bit here, but it really sucks being excited for a new game and then the crushing disappointment when it's not fun.
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