Effects Of Automaton Level

How does the Automaton level +x gear effect the pet? Are there any hard numbers known? Do they stack linearly?

falkirk did some amazing work on beast pets and +level mostly on this page

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/45830/killer-instinct-the-beastmaster-compendium/172/

not aware of anyone doing something similar for pup, but you can probably use it as a guideline

Automaton stats are much easier to check since you can actually see their stats on their equip page. I have checked with 3 pieces with automaton lv. +1 on them, and it was a constant +7 hp with each piece added(only looked at HP as I was just making sure they stacked). It won’t show up in auto equip screen if you don’t have an active automaton, btw.

Since you can see this when you equip the gear, I did a little test with no master gear on except for +1 level automaton gear. At ML40, with the Spiritreaver M-400 head (ie blm head) and Stormwaker Y-700 frame:

My auto's default HP was 1892, MP 1815, and base stats were all +0.
Melee - 423, Ranged 10, Magic 474.

Upon equipping a Kara earring +1 (so automaton level +1):
HP was 1892, MP 2032, and base stats were all +28.
Combat stats didn't change. So, I gained 0hp, 217mp, and 28 base stats across the board.

Upon equipping the Mpaca's boots (so +2 automaton level total):
HP was 1898, MP 2036, and base stats were all +30. My auto gained 6hp, 4mp, and 2 additional base stats.

Upon equipping the Visucius's Mantle (ambu cape +3 automaton level total):
HP was 1904, MP 2042, and base stats were all +33. My auto gained 6 more hp, 6 mp, and 3 additional base stats.

This doesn't include stat additions from gear, or exponential increases from maneuvers, etc. I don't have Varga Purnikawa, so can't say if the +3 automaton level stat gain trend continues above +3. But, in theory, +3 more would give 6-9 more base stats to the automaton in addition to hp and mp.

How does that translate to damage? Well, every weaponskill formula is based on stats so an increase in a specific WS or magic stat would also increase the damage. I'm not good at math so I'll let someone else figure that out.

ML 50 pup and I have varga up to stage 4(still 1.6 million from stage 5 and have like 17 mesos on me so will likely get it in February. This is the stats I got for my tank auto as its all I use, no Maneuvers just sitting in Gustaberg I never saw a base stat increases the same as yours for the first level. Hoping the image loads as I took a screenshot of all the automaton stats which I've included. in case it doesn't load URL is https://ibb.co/dQwLXwZ

The levels I got was stats+4 for level +1, another +5 at level +2, then +7 at level +3, another +7 at level +4 and then finally +6 to all attributes at level +5. HP total went from 3954 to 4010 in the process just from the 5 levels.

FTFY. You have to put the address of the image file (https://i.ibb.co/RCkBtk8/automaton-levels.png) into ffxiah img posts, you can't put in the link to the page which displays the image (https://ibb.co/dQwLXwZ)

I'm a bit puzzled by the fact all of these +1 are giving slightly different values.
I always assumed each +1 to give the same amount of +stat to all the relevant stats, so that if you had 5x +1 you could simply take the values of one +1 and multiply them for 5.

Is it the same for SMN, DRG and BST? Because I always assumed the same thing for those jobs as well.

ML were +1 stats but iirc all pet level + were varied boosts, falkirk iirc posted some numbers for each pet level which were just acc/eva/def/atk that changed based on the pet, since bst cant view anything else, would assume smn is the same

Thanks for confirming. This actually gave more stats than I was expecting when going from Automaton level 3 to level 4 and 5.

Unrelated to automaton level, how are you liking the prime weapon vs other REMA/SU5 weapons?

Its been good on PUP, kind of meh on MNK at stage 4 but PUP/DRK solo tanking Kin, Kyou and Gin most of the time only have haste and maybe if I have sam or chaos rolls. My group does most fights with SMN's so its pet rolls usually and its about 30-40k damage with the occasional 50k(probably a triple or quad attack as no FTP transfer on Maru Kala so usually adds like an extra 3-4k per additional hit) I have seen 1 68k Maru Kala but I had both Last resort and soul eater up on that one with frailty and chaos roll but that kind of damage is extremely rare. Robot takes very little damage with just maneuvers up honestly great for the tanking robot, I wouldn't use it for ranger or bruiser(Kenkonken for bruiser and SU5 for Ranger) if you are trying to do damage on things.

Stage 5 though I think it might compete with verethagna on mnk(seeing it comes with the AM3 kind of part built in) as the white damage is a good portion of mnks damage a lot of the time on top of the base damage and stat increase of the weapon to level things out a bit for the weaponskill slightly to be more competitive.

Even more so for MNK, since Vere can only proc triple damage on the first hit where other empys can do it on all.