Did Ff16 Flop?

Btw, SE's stock price went back to 7000 JPY recently.

You SE doom and gloom believers missed the chance to make money when internet articles all doom and gloom and pushed SE stock price low last time! Too bad.

Don't worry, I am pretty sure when next part of FF7R releases there will be tons of SE doom and gloom posts saying the game suck, pushing stock price below 5500 again. So whoever sold it this round can buy low sell high again. This stock price swinging has happened so many times with internet SE hate posts to the point that it's almost become too predictable, lol.

The SE board of directors went from 6 to 2. SE themselves referred to it as a "restructuring". Additionally, Yoshida asked over a year ago to be removed from the board:

"Yoshida revealed to Dutch publication NRC that he has even tried to step down from the board, but Square won’t let him. 'I recently tried to quit that work, but the company didn’t agree with it. I don’t want to be on the board, it’s much more fun to just make games,' Yoshida told NRC. Clearly, Square wants to utilize the director’s expertise in as many areas as possible."

He has stated multiple times, as recently as the last live letter for FF14 like a week ago, that he didn't want to be an executive and only wants to be involved in the game making side of things. Clearly a good choice considering he runs one of the most popular MMOs on the market and a giant cash cow for SE.

You can be butthurt all you want my dude, it doesn't change anything. At the end of the day, you're butthurt FF11 didn't continue to see full expansion development. As much as most of us don't like that, it was a good business decision, and it shows in their financial reports that it was smart.

>"i wasn't fired, I quit!"

Omega cope.

I'm not sure you understand what "fired" means, but you can continue to throw your tantrums if you'd like. Doesn't change anything.

This is basically a full surrender. Time to stop posting.

Failure has consequences, it's over.

Record player count + increased profits != failure.

Time to start living in reality my guy

No no, let's hear what he thinks is over, its free entertainment. What's over, RA?

I dont follow XIV stuff in depth, but I'm pretty sure Yoshida has been on record many times stating that he doesnt want to be on the board so he can focus on his projects.

Yoshi P sucks

He has, many times. Bro's a gamer, he wants to make games lol and he's good at it.

16 failed, it was horrid trash

Direct quote from SE:

"In the HD Games sub-segment, we released multiple new titles, including major titles such as Final Fantasy 16 and Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, but profits unfortunately did not meet our expectations."

Eurogamer.

You gotta be a new type of delusional when even the company itself admits the game failed.

It's over Anakin, FF16 has the lower ground.

Lmao, you realize the post you are quoting is talking about FF14? Try reading next time.

Yoshi is just bad at game design.
Comparing just the new 7 to 16, its clear as day.

There is so much quality of life stuff in 7 that would have made a huge difference in 16 and 14.

Custscene speed up controls
Movement speed
Time to sprint
Menu load times

Without even getting into core gameplay complaints or story

The 14 stopwatch guy was clearly working overtime on 16, everything was arbitrarily inflated
it was all downhill after chapter 1
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I know it must be hard being you. The level of copium you inhale, causing you to breathe heavy woke farts. But here is a screenshot of the source, since your brain must have rotten away already. lol.

Let me break it down for you further, Godfry. This post that you tried and failed to call out:


Is talking about Final Fantasy 14. Keep up with the conversation, and maybe you won't look like a fool.

I was literally talking about FF14, not FF16. You should probably read the previous posts.

"Not meeting expectations" and "the game failed" are not the same thing. Again, you know this, but being disingenuous is easier than admitting you're in the minority.

Rady, Im sorry but this time, it is you who deserve to have your buttocks spanked, for necroing this thread.

There is already that hateful place that is the New Game sucks.

The world doesnt deserve two of those horrible threads.

Congratulations for making the world a worse place by bumping this thread...

Why are you apologizing? Just do it already.

Also this thread is the OG New game sucks thread. It's made before the other one. Don't you want double amount of entertainment?

Yoshida had high aspirations for making single player games, his continual failure and especially with ff16 is good because now that option is taken away from him and he can concentrate back on ff14 and 11 more now.

Any ff14 player that argues against this is a tard, just sayin.

Incase there was any question that the ff14 devs were overworked to make ff16 at the same time as updating 14, and that lead to a degrading of the game they were supposed to be working on.



"every day was a horrible hell"

Is he talking about Dawntrail and FF16 at the same time? Endwalker would have been completely wrapped up by the time 16 came around I'd imagine.

You're also saying devs while showing just one composser stating he was over worked. Not saying devs weren't too, but how much effort does it take to maintain FF14. Dawntrail was nothing but more of the same, so I don't see it being insanely difficult to do what they've been doing for 14 years.

Just looked up the dates.
Endwalker 2021
FF16 2023
Dawntrail 2024

Those seem pretty staggered to me.

This game didn't suck because it was unfinished. They could have spent twice the amount of time and resources on it and it would still have sucked.

The idea of making a FF title based on Devil May Cry ComBoz 1000Xz MOSNNTAAHH was the most idiotic thing I have seen SE do in a while.

They are lost in the woods.

I'm almost done with XVI. Have yet to finish the DLCs or "Origin". As an English northener I can appreciate it for more than its accents, of which many are faithful, while others are a little OTT. I really love this world more so than I did 12, 13, or 15s. The music is awesome! And the Eikon battles are beyond epic.

My only gripes are that it's too easy, even on the "Action" difficulty. Combat requires very little thought. Stick on the combo and evasion accessories, and the game near plays itself. Some of the quests are dumb, too. For example, one guy asks Clive to talk to three guys so they can meet him for a drink... when he could have just got off his lazy backside, walked for two minutes and achieved the same thing. But this is SE and dumb quests don't surprise me.

There's little to think about in terms of upgrading, either. Some games have convoluted and detailed ways of leveling and equipping, but this is barebones. I feel much like 15, they wanted this game to be more accessible to casual gamers, so again, it doesn't surprise me.

Some of the characters feel underdeveloped. Especially Dion. No spoilers here, but I think they could have done a lot more with him before the end of the game. There are many characters in this game and I can appreciate how much SE tried to make a larger cast this time around. And finally, I don't believe SE took full advantage of the 18/MA rating. There's some blood and swearing, but nothing over the top to where I'd feel super bad about playing it in front of a teenager.

Aside from those gripes, FFXVI has been very enjoyable. I'd definitely recommend it. I'd only suggest to not expect anything too amazing outside of the Eikon battles and music, which are most definitely its strengths. I've had a lot of fun with it.

*** sakes man, dev's dont "compose" games. A two second google search tells me Masayoshi Soken is a "Japanese composer and sound editor".

I'd presume its "hell" because he was having to mentally switch between creating music for two different aesthetics.

Glad you enjoyed it, I also felt like it was too easy.

Also just lol RA. Do you even know what a composer is?

Soken is one of the only people who has the ability to speak out like this, almost all of the rank and file have no ability to do so. If they do they will get a job in the basement.

Also Japan is unlike western countries, if you get a job you have a job for life because they can't lay people off. So because of this they can't hire more people to work on extra projects, they just overwork what they have.

Which is what happened under Yoshida and 16, when you overwork people and have them working on different projects you get two bad projects.