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It's not a conspiracy theory, fake accounts logged into Jeuno was one of the causes of lag. They eventually moved them into Adoulin, which is an area completely inaccessible to regular players. Who knows about now, but there definitely was numbers bloating in order to attract more people.

It isn't a claim, as explained 5 times now, its speculation given the other facts and can't be denied or confirmed as of now. I wasn't even specifically talking about that, I was talking about the ad push behind the server and their tactics to gain a playerbase to entice gullible people like you to thinking its the second coming of vanadiel. You keep bringing that up because you have nothing else, but you can't deny it either now can you. I showed you the picture earlier that it is possible to achieve, put two and two together and use your brain to make your own conclusions.

You're right. It's hard for FFXI to resemble anything these days when 99% of the devs have moved onto other games.

You just don't appreciate the FINE ART that is running through a purple room once per day to watch your Gallimaufry counter go up!

Wake up sheeple!

When retail finally shuts down in the near future private servers will at least be able to continue preserving it at both 75 and 99 caps.

IT'S NOT THE SAME WHERE ARE MY PURPLE ROOMS

Yeah you are talking about the last couple of years, the game has been around over two decades. Not going to deny SE has treated it like trash recently and its a shame. Doesn't give me enough to hate it, I still love the game and I see these as taking away from it in various forms. What a shame that you have played and enjoyed this game so long that in its worst times you are content hating on it and summing it up to "purple rooms." No wonder you enjoy that knock off so much and in its buggy glory lol.

"I still love the game"
"75 cap is a dystopia"
"You are content hating on it and summing it up to "purple rooms""

What did he mean by this?

I can love FFXI while also recognizing the fact that it's in its death throes and that the only relevant content for 85% of the playerbase is Purple Room Explorer and Floating Purple Island Explorer, which is unsurprisingly not enjoyable for most people. It's silly the think that private servers are having a measurable impact on the ability of retail to retain players.

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Reading is hard for you isn't it? I was talking about the thread subject as in their weird version of the era that has so many changes that many people have already posted here.


So why is it hard to understand why someone dislikes these servers if everything counts now? I don't even get why you keep jumping around from one thing to debate to another lol.

Your reasons for disliking private servers are a combination of nonsense and bitter jealousy. This is amplified by the fact that you are frothing at the mouth about private servers harming retail when the reality is that the crossover between potential retail server players and private server players is like incredibly small.

I actually just dont like poor people. It has nothing about private vs retail. Its just filthy poors.

It isn't nonsense and its quite logical. Not just me is saying it, someone a few pages back already explained exactly what I was thinking. Now with XIV getting the XI raid, there might be people interested in trying XI and you think they going to go to retail or some freebie crap that has ad push showing fake streamers having "fun". Literally just looking up XI on youtube or twitch and you only get that garbage, of course!

Then you have people actively trying to recruit others to that server over retail. They are literally trying to kill the game faster.





I may be bitter but its not nonsense to see the obvious that its a detriment to retail, hence my opinion.

1 person in youtube comments telling people to check out Horizon? Holy ***, SE is probably shaking in their boots now!

Also, it's fun to see you admit that retail can't actually compete with "freebie knockoff crap that has fake players but is also somehow taking everyone from retail". This should be an eye-opening testament to just how shitty retail has become, but you can't admit that so you have to blame private servers for the .1% decrease in retail server population.

The biggest detriment to retail is the people running retail and it's been that way for a decade.

You are just the worst at this.. lol. The speculated fake numbers were to bolster the overall server count in addition to the ad push, done so that people like you can /sea all and feel all warm inside. This caused more people to flock to it as its "popular", its really an old marketing technique, why is this hard for you to follow? The biggest boost was the ad push, the tons of fake streamers playing this 2 decade old game on twitch and acting like its the best thing ever (where were they before I wonder?)

This isn't a big blow to retail, its something that takes away from it. I left my opinion in response to that just like you.

You are also using anecdotes, you literally did it only a page or so ago saying x people in your LS didn't play XI.

It wasn't just 1 poster on youtube. This goes on every day on XI videos on youtube where these people are hating on retail 24/7 and dissuading people from trying it. Every day!

Demained thread, they gonna throw me in the van next.

IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY THE FILLINGS IN MY TEETH TOLD ME SO


And again, nothing takes away from retail like the people running retail. Private servers are likely having no measurable impact on retail because retail isn't really anything like 75-era XI any more.


Have you ever considered that this is because retail has been poorly ran for decades and is unappealing for new/returning players rather than because of the big bad private servers?


Imagine frothing at the mouth so much about different games that you might get banned from a forum you have 14k posts on lol

It's one thing if you just wanna stab stuff for a few days until the grind takes the shine off the nostalgia; Minimal investment, lots of fun. But trusting any private server with your time and effort towards building a real character and contributing to a community is like throwing money at some dude on discord who wants to tell you about his new crypto exchange.

Sure, maybe <insert server name>'s admin team will be the one in a thousand who don't abuse their position or get involved in shady stuff, but the odds are really, really, bad.

...Even worse if the admin team actually plays on their own server. Big Yikes.

How does it stack up to investing your time and effort towards building a character on a game where the devs outright don't give a ***and are obviously running out the clock?

Yes, this is a big problem. Thankfully LSB (not a private server, but a retail emulator) has made efforts to course correct to cite sources instead of just copy paste ***. FFXI's current known mechanics would be impossible without the work of tons of people and they deserve to be credited. There's still so much to learn about this game and it needs to be preserved

Come on Guys lets play with ninja!

Well, I've taken multiple year-plus breaks and my character is still here. The linkshells and even some people I played with when I was a kid are still around. I'm not playing at the moment, but there's always the chance I'll come back to make a Prime or something one day. I appreciate Fujito's efforts in making sure the game, and the time I've invested, sticks around for a long time to come.

Also, gotta ask - aren't you tired? You've been in this thread all day like an angry business owner on Yelp. It's okay - Horizon good, retail bad. I think we all understand what you're trying to communicate by now.

A lot of people said what I wanted to say after thinking it over night, so instead I'll just chip in with this:

"Disingenuous" is the word I would describe my growing experience having played Horizon early in the year.

You did one thing right, Aerec and Co: You did get people together and those people did want that sense of community and you managed to accomplish that, for better or worse. But what people were coming in to play the FFXI they remembered, it's instead the FFXI a small select group of molded it to be. To a lot of people? This doesn't matter, nor should that have any qualms or weight on how they enjoy the game.

But when you have moderators making questionable decisions (nerfing BST conveniently after a select few used it to race to being lv75 first), nerfing fishing/desynthing because some people got the word out, to banning people on their discord for using a clown emoji because the moderators got uppity (and to an extent, 'wrong speak' by voice of dissent), having people in the higher ups gloat about their own accomplishments while bugs were still abound, the amount of advertising networking from literal whos #1~100 trying to get their e-fame points up, the aforementioned artificial server numbers, well...

It just felt like walking on eggshells at that point. Not my jam.

Edit: I'll end it on a positive note, I got to see this crossover:

I wouldn't bank on it that much longer. Really though, the risk of losing a character due to a private server going dead probably isn't a real consideration for most people. The real treasure is the friends made along the way and all that jazz anyway.


Fringe benefit of working from home is that I can post in threads all day while working.


I wouldn't say that. More like "Horizon - Fun now, Retail - Had it's time but is getting ready to go bye bye". Retail at it's peak is undoubtedly better than anything I've done in Horizon, but that peak has long since been passed.

Typical private server player now, hes thirsting for retail to die. How far you have fallen

Careful they won't have any more assets to steal if it does go down, might want to hold back on those wishes

Who's thirsting? Retail is very apparently in its death throes and you yourself have recognized the people in charge of it haven't given a ***in years lol

Why do you hate free login campaigns?

Ah yes we all know FFXI has been in it's "death throes" for some 20 years, it is incredible that SE keeps throwing money at it! I mean at a minimum it is returning 1.3M a year. They might as well turn it off, they are clearly losing money on it... /sarcasm.

Everything I've done here over the years, and that dumb little napkin math on the database page might be my favorite piece

Rooks still does stuff all the time!

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