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Empy +2 Possibly bugged?
Bahamut.Zedoma
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By Bahamut.Zedoma 2025-03-07 02:00:59
Correct, just means your bug report was good. Confirmed/Planning to Address is what we want. But more then likely it will join the rest of the reports in Unable to Verify.
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By RadialArcana 2025-03-07 05:34:28
If you can, you should post pictures of what the issue is in that thread. To make it easier for the developers to see what's going on. Remove all your addon stuff obv.
Phoenix.Iocus
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2025-03-07 09:50:23
If someone gets a good screenshot that won't get them banned, we could submit it in mass to the current screenshot contest.
Preferably Dyna-D. Feel free to MS paint a cherry blossom tree onto it.
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By Asura.Certainly 2025-03-07 12:07:56
If you can, you should post pictures of what the issue is in that thread. To make it easier for the developers to see what's going on. Remove all your addon stuff obv. To be honest, I wouldnt be surprised if Gearswap is part of the cause and they're unable to verify it because of that.
Anyone doing Vanilla tanking in Wave 3? Thought so.
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-03-07 12:09:23
All you have to do is stand there. And get hit until you get a big hit. No gearswapping required.
It shouldve been figured out the exact cause 2 years ago but no one can spare their precious gil to sack one run and narrow it down.
Its easier to just say *** the body and not bother using it at all. Apathy ftw.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-03-07 12:14:36
And why doesnt Eiryl do it if its so simple but "no one can spare their precious gil to sack one run"??
Oh ya, he doesnt have a PLD with Empy+2, nor do his chars have access to Divergence. Hell, even if he did, he'd have no ability to get to wave 3. He cant even get through the first floor of Sheol A lol.
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By Asura.Certainly 2025-03-07 16:09:11
I didnt think anyone would fulltime Empy+2/3 body and stand there with 17 other people, waiting to get curb stomped.
Well I guess it could be entertaining for a single time. Maybe twice. Many times if it's a WWE heel?
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Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-03-07 16:43:52
I regularly tank Dynamis W3 on PLD, play without gearswap, and have an empy body, but I don't think it will make any difference whatsoever to a bug report to include a screenshot of someone getting owned by a fomor. They accepted the bug, they just haven't bothered to fix it.
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By Argisto 2025-03-14 14:32:29
This has been moved to "Confirmed/Planning to Address."
Bahamut.Zedoma
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By Bahamut.Zedoma 2025-03-14 14:57:26
Your bug report was the chosen one.
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-03-14 15:05:52
30 Months to confirm, That's about on par for a problem fix in XI
2 years later
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By Asura.Certainly 2025-03-17 02:28:45
Your bug report was the chosen one.
Certainly, or my name wouldn't be Certainly.
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By RadialArcana 2025-03-17 04:48:14
Keep in mind they work on a 2-3 month delay (or more lately), so patches they make this month won't be seen for many months in the future. So even if they fix this today you won't see it for a while, so don't expect a fast response. Still important to push for it to be fixed though.
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2025-03-17 05:12:36
don't expect a fast response
lol, there are bugs that have been sitting in "confirmed/planning to address" for 12 years
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-03-17 05:54:42
Some of that is just bad bug tracker hygiene. Things like Lifestream cape's localization have been fixed for years.
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By Asura.Certainly 2025-03-27 06:09:16
Your bug report was the chosen one.
April update notes:
"Incurring heavy damage as a knight while wearing empyrean armor
It took a long time for us to get to the bottom of this one, but we were able to identify the rather complex conditions that caused this issue to occur. This bug will be fixed as part of the upcoming version update. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused."
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/62581
Success.
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-03-27 10:07:41
surprisingly fast turn around, good on them for getting it addressed.
I wonder if the limbus work just means they have the people to actually look at these other items while workin on xi and that is part of why it got done.
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-03-27 10:08:30
Fast turnaround. What.
Fast by their standards. I guess.
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-03-27 10:10:03
fast from the time they actually accepted a report.
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Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-03-27 10:12:40
If we ignore the other 5 identical bug reports, sure.
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By Asura.Certainly 2025-03-27 10:20:19
If we ignore the other 5 identical bug reports, sure. Huh? Which other 5 identical bug reports are you talking about?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-03-27 10:54:05
The ones where people said "PLD EMP BODY NO WORK U FIX I KEEP DIE" with zero additional details
*the aforementioned statement has exaggerated for dramatic effect
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By Asura.Certainly 2025-03-27 11:43:55
You ruined the joke. Both of you. Thanks.
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By Phoenix.Vespajava 2025-03-27 12:47:25
Vanilla PLD checking in. Hardly a brag, BUT.... that's kinda how we got to the bottom of insta-rekt in w3. The first couple OHKO were surprises, but the consistency in w3 was sus.We had a backup tank >_> luckily. I'm not pleased that I hung on to this thread long enough to hear someone got the *** up the foodchain successfully. Keep doing great things!
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By Asura.Certainly 2025-04-03 00:44:59
"The issue wherein significant damage could be unintentionally incurred when both the player and monster were simultaneously targeted and readied for a skillchain."
"When being hit by a monster with the special ability "Mijin Gakure" in Dynamis – Divergence."
There were mixed opinions about Mijin being a bug or not, but after all, it was. I'm kinda sad to see this go. :D
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By Kaffy 2025-04-03 01:02:57
no wonder it was so hard to pin down if it required player and monster to be skillchained at the same time
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Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-04-03 02:51:43
Well, seems like I was half right?
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-04-03 03:48:36
So. That's a very difficult scenario to randomly replicate.
Definitely not the "it took 30 months to figure out" kind. But not a simple one either.
It wasn't just an underflow for damage:enmity, but a swapping of skillchain states. Which is, odd. Not something you can randomly find by letting mobs attack you. They had to actually make skillchains and be skillchained at the same time. That's literally impossible to set up in a test scenario.
So had they actually played the game at all, they might've been able to find it, but since they don't, it must've been damn hard.
Currently tanking W3....twice now I've taken 15k+ from a random WS from an NM. The only difference between now and before is I am wearing 3 pieces of Empy+2 (head, body, and legs)....has anyone tested the "Absorb damage" aspect? I am wondering if it is bugged and allowing max damage to come through.
Edit:
Our other PLD was in Empy+2 and was having similar issues of occasionally being deleted by random damage/WS's doing massive damage. Upon removing the empy+2 no issues.
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