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 DaneBlood
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By DaneBlood 2022-08-24 22:21:55
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Bismarck.Yvan said: »
trading a sapphire without an item will result in losing the sapphire. now you know!

Thats the real science sacrifice there\


Someone just changed the BG-wiki on sortie so that all chest contains saphire/old case. withing hte last 20 mins or so?
I didnt find anything here to back that up. is this news or just a failed updated ?
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By Bismarck.Dracosam 2022-08-24 22:24:28
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went to kill all nm but we didn t find A one so we did boss 1 2 3 and NM 2-3-4 then i didn t had key i let mule at d1 door so we got key. went to kill NM A we got red and gold chest open them and i was suprise to get saphire and old box at D1 door while my party was at first room north of entrance.
seem like it's not exp range for some chest. can't say if loot was from red or gold both were open at same time.

2 days ago B run we were able get casket A with cor spaming leaden and blu spaming savage from ice light water ele room . but today we couldn t get. both day we had shard and metal after 5 and 10 kill.
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By Asura.Sensarity 2022-08-24 23:18:21
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Muffins cap at 100k, ls mate hit 100k today and can't go any higher.
Guess we can't farm muffins until they're used for +3. Buying old cases for 80k just got more appealing.


Proof you can't go over 100k, Demisang all give 60+ muffins each.
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By Shiva.Cziella 2022-08-24 23:28:02
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Bismarck.Yvan said: »
trading a sapphire without an item will result in losing the sapphire. now you know!

Can confirm, also, it TAKES your muffins too, 10k. I was 3boxing and not paying much attention, traded sapphire, and reforged af legs +1, instead of empyrean +1 on a mule, it took the sapphire and 10k muffins, and just gave me back the reforged af legs +1. It didn't ask for comfirmation, it doesn't takes the empy+1 legs by itself (I thought it might hold the currency/items until you trade an upgradeable piece, but nope) GG SE
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By Asura.Neojuggernautx 2022-08-25 00:43:17
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Not sure if this dead horse has been beaten enough but Map A brown chests. So tried strictly auto attacking. Got nothing. Then I auto attacked but threw in a nuke. On first mob I only got off a tier 1 for 3.5k. Next two mobs had an 11k tossed onto them with auto attack only and a brown chest appeared. Did same thing on next set but tested the ws bit. I ws’d one mob for AM3. Took four mobs to get brown chest. If I had to make a guess, it’s just do magic damage with no weapon skills. I’ve achieved this obj on blu nuking only but doesn’t always happen in 3 mobs so perhaps the upper damage limit is a thing. Hope this helps
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By SimonSes 2022-08-25 01:28:23
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Asura.Neojuggernautx said: »
Not sure if this dead horse has been beaten enough but Map A brown chests. So tried strictly auto attacking. Got nothing. Then I auto attacked but threw in a nuke. On first mob I only got off a tier 1 for 3.5k. Next two mobs had an 11k tossed onto them with auto attack only and a brown chest appeared. Did same thing on next set but tested the ws bit. I ws’d one mob for AM3. Took four mobs to get brown chest. If I had to make a guess, it’s just do magic damage with no weapon skills. I’ve achieved this obj on blu nuking only but doesn’t always happen in 3 mobs so perhaps the upper damage limit is a thing. Hope this helps

Its not about WS, few pages back someone did skillchain with 2 WSs and still got the shard chest.
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By Tarage 2022-08-25 02:25:13
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I am amused at how the description for chest A3 and A4 keeps changing.
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By Phoenix.Godofwars 2022-08-25 02:36:23
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Tarage said: »
I am amused at how the description for chest A3 and A4 keeps changing.
and i said the same thing in page 33
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By cuddlyhamster 2022-08-25 03:07:22
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was trying for brown box in area D. Did 3 step Darkness doing Expacion > Requiescat > Rudras. BLU > RDM > THF if it matters. Did this on 6 fomors but couldnt get a box to drop before timing out.
 
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By Fenrir.Ahlen 2022-08-25 04:05:41
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With anyone who got sc from ws to work for a3 a4 let me know what ws they used. Its easy to get with sch bursts or blu but i always like to have more options. I tried with a cor doing low dmg burning into flat burst but didnt get a single brown chest in 7 kills. I had full malignace locked on so the ws dmg was minimal.
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By Shiva.Mewtwo 2022-08-25 04:17:03
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Can anyone debunk this idea that the NM's need to be killed in order A > B > C > D to get Aurum coffer. there have been a couple of times we did not receive the Aurum coffer. Those times were times we killed the porxie before the leech because the leech didn't show up at the start and we came back for it.

So just curious if anyone has gotten the Aurum without them dieing in order.
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-08-25 04:42:14
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Shiva.Mewtwo said: »
Can anyone debunk this idea that the NM's need to be killed in order A > B > C > D to get Aurum coffer. there have been a couple of times we did not receive the Aurum coffer. Those times were times we killed the porxie before the leech because the leech didn't show up at the start and we came back for it.

So just curious if anyone has gotten the Aurum without them dieing in order.

Yesterday we killed D then A then C then B and got coffer.
 
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By Vaerix 2022-08-25 05:22:54
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Shiva.Mewtwo said: »
Can anyone debunk this idea that the NM's need to be killed in order A > B > C > D to get Aurum coffer. there have been a couple of times we did not receive the Aurum coffer. Those times were times we killed the porxie before the leech because the leech didn't show up at the start and we came back for it.

So just curious if anyone has gotten the Aurum without them dieing in order.

Killed D C B A yday still got aurum.
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By Bahamut.Spookyfish 2022-08-25 06:54:14
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SimonSes said: »
Its not about WS, few pages back someone did skillchain with 2 WSs and still got the shard chest.

This is still odd to me, I dual boxed last night and used Qultada and AAEV. Enfeebled every acuex/leech I killed and ended each kill from ~12% with Fire/Blizzard V. Killed 7 acuex this way before moving onto leeches and killing 3 of them with no brown chest. I dropped AAEV/Qultada because they would each get a WS off per mob and the first kill I melee'd exclusively with enspells and finished with a nuke gave me the first brown chest.

I left them dismissed and killed another 3 leeches using sanguine blade to get them low quicker and couldn't get the second chest but as soon as I stopped using sanguine blade I got the chest.. also noticed you can get two chests on one kill while doing WS kills on fire elementals, strange that it showed up as 3/7 in my log twice though.
 
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2022-08-25 07:11:24
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Asura.Sensarity said: »
Muffins cap at 100k, ls mate hit 100k today and can't go any higher.
Guess we can't farm muffins until they're used for +3. Buying old cases for 80k just got more appealing.


Proof you can't go over 100k, Demisang all give 60+ muffins each.
This makes me sad I wanna farm them til +3 comes out so now we when we get them we just farm earrings? Would've love to see way higher I wonder what +3 will cost then.
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Also annoying because they didn't make a new porter slip, so now you're either forced to spend to make empy+2 and clutter your inventory or forced to buy boxes or sapphires so you don't waste galli. Dev screwed up doubly here
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2022-08-25 08:38:35
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Buying old cases for 80k just got more appealing.

Let's be honest. People will get bored and just stop doing the event as often when it comes to that point. There is only a 1 in 22 chance of getting a specific job earring, and old cases have a low chance of giving a +1 earring. Most of the NQ earrings are pretty crap without the second aug slot unlocked. The +1 and +2's are infinitely better.

Tbh the long term longevity of sortie is kind of limited. Empyrean armor is pretty quick to upgrade, and I mentioned in my run last night that farming earrings reminds me of the original salvage from the level 75 era. You do objectives, follow a set path, and you're guaranteed your shot at fighting the NM. But drop rates are so low you could spend a year doing it before you get what you want. And once people finish upgrading empyrean armor there'll be nothing left to farm in there since there is no gil payout or other form of reward besides the earrings.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-08-25 08:46:29
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Unrelated to Sortie directly, but I'm curious if this method works for pulling Fomor in Sortie to de-link groups. Aegis Schism is no joke.

https://mobile.twitter.com/long_horned/status/1562489753433677830
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2022-08-25 08:52:09
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Summoner pulling has been a thing for the longest time, and I would assume it should work in sortie just like anywhere else. As long as the summoner does it correctly you should be able to separate a few fomors from the main pack.
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By Shiva.Ragnarzero 2022-08-25 09:16:49
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You can de-agro the Fomors by using the teleporter. A Mnk accidently pulled the room when he pulled the NM, he ran down to the teleporter and warped to B from D. Everything de-agro and started to walk back. We were able to pull the NM out of the pack of 8 mobs before he de-agro. So it seems like the teleporters drop agro like lamps do in Nyzul.
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By Meeble 2022-08-25 09:27:50
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Fenrir.Melphina said: »
Tbh the long term longevity of sortie is kind of limited. Empyrean armor is pretty quick to upgrade, and I mentioned in my run last night that farming earrings reminds me of the original salvage from the level 75 era. You do objectives, follow a set path, and you're guaranteed your shot at fighting the NM. But drop rates are so low you could spend a year doing it before you get what you want. And once people finish upgrading empyrean armor there'll be nothing left to farm in there since there is no gil payout or other form of reward besides the earrings.

I mean, look at Ody. When was the last time XI got content that was complete at launch? Hell, Omen crafting materials were added about six months in, and it was nearly two more years before Swart even existed in game.
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By Mrxi 2022-08-25 09:52:58
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I went in as RNG yesterday and tried elementals kills with true flight, did 10 elementals, no chests drops, I moved to umbrils and got chests after x3 kills, and then another 3 kills {6 umbril kills only}, the only thing that changed was the mob, both were true flight spam, rng only doing dmg/actions

I'm going to have to bring a bunch of holy waters and try this tomorrow as three runs in a row now I've killed 20-25 elementals in a variety of ways and can only get metal and shard chest. Note I cannot do the 15k damage weaponskill as the final blow on elementals people are speaking of. The chest you got today, were any of them the blue one?

Pretty sure these have to be B mobs weaknesses. When we did ours the first time, I got it using Tenebral Crush on Light elements for both KIs. Got them on the same pull.


So there seems to be a lot of question about Casket #B1. Today, the update to the bgwiki page says the method is confirmed to be "7 Total 15K+ Kill shots on Biune foes (no SC), Any damage type counts."

I'm posting the relevant bits of my log file from last night. I went with a PUP and split off from the rest of the group working on A objectives and teleported to the B portal, doing a quick /hurray for 1/7 on B ojectives before heading northeast to the fire elementals.


Spoiler Alert! Click to view.

The chest that spawned was definitely Casket #B1, a blue chest (evidenced by the lack of a shard or metal drop in the log). Not only did it NOT take 7 mobs to spawn, but all 4 of them were killed with a 3-step skillchain with the killing blow being skillchain damage. This contradicts almost every aspect of the "confirmed" method listed on bgwiki. Interestingly, Casket #B1 spawned BEFORE Chest #B3/#B4

I'd say this one is far from solved.

Edit: I double-checked the logs, we got Chest #B3 (shard) from a leaden kill (no SC) on a fire elemental. We ended up clearing out the fire elementals before Chest #B4 popped, so we headed to the earth/darkness elemental camp. Got Chest #B4 to pop from an Earth elemental from a darkness skillchain.
I changed it a few times but never removed Verification Needed tag. It caused a edit war where people delete and leave blank and page locked out of editing for a day. Anyways I was killing with leaden and Sanguine so no sc and got it after 7 other people have been saying 3 Flash Nova kills with sc. Today did same thing and killed all water light Ice and no blue casket so maybe I got really lucky 4 times in a row and other people same? or really is random like wiki originally said... So what is current theory on Casket #B1?
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By AegParm 2022-08-25 10:35:46
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Killed a good dozen elementals with sanguine blade doing 25k+ damage with no B1 pop. Seems bunk, at least for magic ws.
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By Asura.Hamburgerz 2022-08-25 10:57:27
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AegParm said: »
Killed a good dozen elementals with sanguine blade doing 25k+ damage with no B1 pop. Seems bunk, at least for magic ws.

On what elementals? Fire? It may have something to do with Sanguine blade not working, we may need an ele ws that says "deals x elemental damage"?. I got shard on fire eles in 5 kiills with only silence and a Drk using nothing but Infernal Scythe for dd and kill.
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By Asura.Shupyrg 2022-08-25 11:08:20
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Trust magic also works to get the Diaphanous Device #A chest.
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