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By Odin.Djohn 2022-08-23 18:49:37
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KujahFoxfire said: »
Also bugs me that keys/plates are temp items but seem to be permanent so far. My super tinfoil hat theory is that there is indeed a 5th NM somewhere and killing it resets your zone progress back to the start. Not really any reason for keys/plates to be temp items if they are in fact permanent.

I think you're reading way too much into this. Temp items are the only way that SE has of implementing a zone/event-specific inventory. They could have made them KIs instead, but the KI menu is cluttered enough as it is, and it's much easier to reference your temp item inventory than it is to look up KIs without addons.
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By Ragnarok.Kanryu 2022-08-23 19:03:03
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Asura.Cthaeh said: »
I think we need to give up pushing this attack only then magic kill, or magic kill only or w/e anyone is saying about the Metal for A. You guys are 100% missing something else you are doing here. At least 8 people in my LS have been testing this again and again all week and we've only gotten it one time and that was before we read this.

edit: When we did get the metal, everyone started fighting the mob. All backed off at 30% and I self SC and magic burst kill on NIN and we got the chest. This is the only time I've seen it, and we've repeated this idea multiple times.

It is very likely closer to killing it without doing more than 25k in a single hit. (Potentially no WS allowed, but it could also be most people's WS do more than that.) We tried it a different way tonight and used a Crocea RDM + GEO nukes to kill. It took us 7 and the only variance was the GEO nukes did 27k on one of them and below 25k on all the rest. That 27k was on the 2nd of 7 and we got chests on the 4th and 7th kills.
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By Sockfoot 2022-08-23 19:10:14
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Ragnarok.Kanryu said: »
Asura.Cthaeh said: »
I think we need to give up pushing this attack only then magic kill, or magic kill only or w/e anyone is saying about the Metal for A. You guys are 100% missing something else you are doing here. At least 8 people in my LS have been testing this again and again all week and we've only gotten it one time and that was before we read this.

edit: When we did get the metal, everyone started fighting the mob. All backed off at 30% and I self SC and magic burst kill on NIN and we got the chest. This is the only time I've seen it, and we've repeated this idea multiple times.

It is very likely closer to killing it without doing more than 25k in a single hit. (Potentially no WS allowed, but it could also be most people's WS do more than that.) We tried it a different way tonight and used a Crocea RDM + GEO nukes to kill. It took us 7 and the only variance was the GEO nukes did 27k on one of them and below 25k on all the rest. That 27k was on the 2nd of 7 and we got chests on the 4th and 7th kills.
Closer perhaps, but it isn't just that or our auto-attack only kills would have popped them.
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By SimonSes 2022-08-23 19:16:35
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Ragnarok.Kanryu said: »
Asura.Cthaeh said: »
I think we need to give up pushing this attack only then magic kill, or magic kill only or w/e anyone is saying about the Metal for A. You guys are 100% missing something else you are doing here. At least 8 people in my LS have been testing this again and again all week and we've only gotten it one time and that was before we read this.

edit: When we did get the metal, everyone started fighting the mob. All backed off at 30% and I self SC and magic burst kill on NIN and we got the chest. This is the only time I've seen it, and we've repeated this idea multiple times.

It is very likely closer to killing it without doing more than 25k in a single hit. (Potentially no WS allowed, but it could also be most people's WS do more than that.) We tried it a different way tonight and used a Crocea RDM + GEO nukes to kill. It took us 7 and the only variance was the GEO nukes did 27k on one of them and below 25k on all the rest. That 27k was on the 2nd of 7 and we got chests on the 4th and 7th kills.

Yo literally have screenshot with 60k+ nuke and someone doing at least 2 WSs. shard still dropped. It's 2 pages ago...

WSs are allowed, 25k+ also. What objective might be, can simply be 3x 10-25k nuke that doesnt kill the mob. Maybe when you were failing, GEO only did two nukes that count and not three (or one instead of two, Im just guessing how many is required).
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By Chimerawizard 2022-08-23 19:31:29
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okay, our first acuex we only did 1 killshot nuke because I melee'd it low before the geo got there. we did at least 3 nukes to the rest though.
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By Autherius 2022-08-23 20:23:18
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Could someone explain the Ruspix's Plate - I entered Sortie on Day 1 with my Shiny, then did 4 days in a row of content, and today the Ruspix's plate still has an hour till it's ready. I'm not 100% how this work.
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By Torzak 2022-08-23 20:31:36
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For A, It's definitely not "don't WS". Every single time I've gotten that chest I did a skill chain to take the mob low.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2022-08-23 20:38:23
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Autherius said: »
Could someone explain the Ruspix's Plate - I entered Sortie on Day 1 with my Shiny, then did 4 days in a row of content, and today the Ruspix's plate still has an hour till it's ready. I'm not 100% how this work.
It only take the time when your normal KI is not already charging so if you entered 25 hours ago your new KI is ready and you've charged 1 hour on Ruspix's plate because it charges at 1/5 of real time.

You can then use Ruspix's plate to enter early so if it has been 19 hours since you last entered you only need 1 Ruspix's plate hour which costed you 5 real hours to enter 1 hour early.

Or you could enter 20 hours early and do 2 runs back to back if it is fully charged which takes having had 100 "wasted" hours between runs to have accumulated. Actually I think the timer starts on entry so should only cost 19 hours if you stay for full hour.
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By Chimerawizard 2022-08-23 21:28:05
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Autherius said: »
Could someone explain the Ruspix's Plate - I entered Sortie on Day 1 with my Shiny, then did 4 days in a row of content, and today the Ruspix's plate still has an hour till it's ready. I'm not 100% how this work.
The goblin if you talk to him tells you the seconds 20hrs-[time since last entry counter]-[plate charge].

When you enter Sortie, it takes 20 hours since your last entry off [time since last entry counter] and the rest is cut in 1/5th before being added to [plate charge].

When you redeem Ruspix's plate, it takes 20 hours worth of time from [time since last entry counter] plus whatever is required from [plate charge]... maybe, it could just zero out the [plate charge]; not 100% on this one I'll admit.

Also when entering after using your plate to recharge the shiny, it apparently won't mention your time being stocked. (2nd hand info)
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2022-08-23 21:34:27
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Asura.Lunafreya said: »
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I think we need to give up pushing this attack only then magic kill, or magic kill only or w/e anyone is saying about the Metal for A. You guys are 100% missing something else you are doing here. At least 8 people in my LS have been testing this again and again all week and we've only gotten it one time and that was before we read this.

edit: When we did get the metal, everyone started fighting the mob. All backed off at 30% and I self SC and magic burst kill on NIN and we got the chest. This is the only time I've seen it, and we've repeated this idea multiple times.

I did auto attack/elemental ninjutsu nuking only today and got shard/metal on 3rd and 6th kill respectively. Only trusts I had out that would have taken any action was koru (dia3, distract, paralyze).

Previous run was BLU and I did not engage and only rotated spectral floe/tenebreal/anvil lightning/searing tempest, and also got shard/metal on 3rd and 6th kill respectively.

As I’m typing this out, I am just thinking…maybe it’s magic damage of 4 or more elements?

Doubt it's that. When I did it on NIN Katon: San was the only magic damage spell cast.

I'm wondering if each monster has a hidden elemental/damage type proc to it that we have to find. For instance, you grab an Acuex and it has one weakness of a damage type (slashing/piercing/earth/fire, etc...) and a killshot with that is doing it. Would make sense that people are on the magic train as it would often be an element.

So in my case, that specific Acuex was procced quietly by fire kill.
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By Sockfoot 2022-08-24 00:58:27
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Asura.Lunafreya said: »
Asura.Cthaeh said: »
I think we need to give up pushing this attack only then magic kill, or magic kill only or w/e anyone is saying about the Metal for A. You guys are 100% missing something else you are doing here. At least 8 people in my LS have been testing this again and again all week and we've only gotten it one time and that was before we read this.

edit: When we did get the metal, everyone started fighting the mob. All backed off at 30% and I self SC and magic burst kill on NIN and we got the chest. This is the only time I've seen it, and we've repeated this idea multiple times.

I did auto attack/elemental ninjutsu nuking only today and got shard/metal on 3rd and 6th kill respectively. Only trusts I had out that would have taken any action was koru (dia3, distract, paralyze).

Previous run was BLU and I did not engage and only rotated spectral floe/tenebreal/anvil lightning/searing tempest, and also got shard/metal on 3rd and 6th kill respectively.

As I’m typing this out, I am just thinking…maybe it’s magic damage of 4 or more elements?
I also feel like it has something to do with multiple elements
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By Vaerix 2022-08-24 01:00:50
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Sockfoot said: »
Asura.Lunafreya said: »
Asura.Cthaeh said: »
I think we need to give up pushing this attack only then magic kill, or magic kill only or w/e anyone is saying about the Metal for A. You guys are 100% missing something else you are doing here. At least 8 people in my LS have been testing this again and again all week and we've only gotten it one time and that was before we read this.

edit: When we did get the metal, everyone started fighting the mob. All backed off at 30% and I self SC and magic burst kill on NIN and we got the chest. This is the only time I've seen it, and we've repeated this idea multiple times.

I did auto attack/elemental ninjutsu nuking only today and got shard/metal on 3rd and 6th kill respectively. Only trusts I had out that would have taken any action was koru (dia3, distract, paralyze).

Previous run was BLU and I did not engage and only rotated spectral floe/tenebreal/anvil lightning/searing tempest, and also got shard/metal on 3rd and 6th kill respectively.

As I’m typing this out, I am just thinking…maybe it’s magic damage of 4 or more elements?
I also feel like it has something to do with multiple elements

It cannot be multiple elements, I did A shard/metal while a party member did D SC's 2 days ago, only used katon and fire from geo, unless you count malaise as another element.
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-08-24 02:03:07
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To add to this, when we were farming these, our SCH did SC by Water > Blizzard and bursting with Blizzard. Acuex were slept with Lullaby. It also gave us shard and metal after 3 then 6 kills.
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By SimonSes 2022-08-24 02:55:38
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Odin.Bangla said: »
To add to this, when we were farming these, our SCH did SC by Water > Blizzard and bursting with Blizzard. Acuex were slept with Lullaby. It also gave us shard and metal after 3 then 6 kills.

It's just doing required number of non killing nukes.
I just don't know damage ranges and number of nukes required.
 
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-08-24 03:25:26
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KujahFoxfire said: »
Some notes for the C Metal/Shard:

We have 100% success over a few runs now doing a single chain and burst on Corses. Typically we do Upheaval -> Savage -> Fire/Thunder/Holy MB (from PLD GEO or WHM, usually low tier and low damage) and then kill, one chain and one burst per mob. 3rd and 6th always drop the boxes. Have tried without the burst and no luck so it's likely required.

Solo Skillchaining Light with Trusts (Shantotto 2, King) doing MB worked.
 
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KujahFoxfire said: »
Odin.Bangla said: »
KujahFoxfire said: »
Some notes for the C Metal/Shard:

We have 100% success over a few runs now doing a single chain and burst on Corses. Typically we do Upheaval -> Savage -> Fire/Thunder/Holy MB (from PLD GEO or WHM, usually low tier and low damage) and then kill, one chain and one burst per mob. 3rd and 6th always drop the boxes. Have tried without the burst and no luck so it's likely required.

Solo Skillchaining Light with Trusts (Shantotto 2, King) doing MB worked.


Nice, I saw on a previous page the notes said it needed to be 2 chains + bursts, but I think we can confirm that it's just one required.


Another note, how are peoples drop rates on bosses so far? We are about 3/16 on actual drops, and those 3 all had TH on them. No clue if it worked or not but know it works in incursion direct drops so it might?

Well I cannot attest to the amount. Only that it worked. Solo damage is slow so I did several skillchains ...

Edit: The proper run we did yesterday we had a SAM doing one skillchain that i bursted with Fire x2. This worked as well.
Skillchain damage was weak enough to get 2 MBs in so I went with it.
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By SimonSes 2022-08-24 04:07:57
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4x Aeolian works for D 4step skillchains.
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KujahFoxfire said: »
Odin.Bangla said: »
KujahFoxfire said: »
Some notes for the C Metal/Shard:

We have 100% success over a few runs now doing a single chain and burst on Corses. Typically we do Upheaval -> Savage -> Fire/Thunder/Holy MB (from PLD GEO or WHM, usually low tier and low damage) and then kill, one chain and one burst per mob. 3rd and 6th always drop the boxes. Have tried without the burst and no luck so it's likely required.

Solo Skillchaining Light with Trusts (Shantotto 2, King) doing MB worked.


Nice, I saw on a previous page the notes said it needed to be 2 chains + bursts, but I think we can confirm that it's just one required.


Another note, how are peoples drop rates on bosses so far? We are about 3/16 on actual drops, and those 3 all had TH on them. No clue if it worked or not but know it works in incursion direct drops so it might?

Bosses seem to have a low drop rate with TH4. We are planning to bring a THF as one of our DD's and *** the difference. Boss 3 did drop us a +1 case though so we are still unsure if they have a better chance for HQ earring drops.
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By Asura.Aerox 2022-08-24 05:57:48
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Asura.Cthaeh said: »
Asura.Lunafreya said: »
Asura.Cthaeh said: »
I think we need to give up pushing this attack only then magic kill, or magic kill only or w/e anyone is saying about the Metal for A. You guys are 100% missing something else you are doing here. At least 8 people in my LS have been testing this again and again all week and we've only gotten it one time and that was before we read this.

edit: When we did get the metal, everyone started fighting the mob. All backed off at 30% and I self SC and magic burst kill on NIN and we got the chest. This is the only time I've seen it, and we've repeated this idea multiple times.

I did auto attack/elemental ninjutsu nuking only today and got shard/metal on 3rd and 6th kill respectively. Only trusts I had out that would have taken any action was koru (dia3, distract, paralyze).

Previous run was BLU and I did not engage and only rotated spectral floe/tenebreal/anvil lightning/searing tempest, and also got shard/metal on 3rd and 6th kill respectively.

As I’m typing this out, I am just thinking…maybe it’s magic damage of 4 or more elements?

Doubt it's that. When I did it on NIN Katon: San was the only magic damage spell cast.

I'm wondering if each monster has a hidden elemental/damage type proc to it that we have to find. For instance, you grab an Acuex and it has one weakness of a damage type (slashing/piercing/earth/fire, etc...) and a killshot with that is doing it. Would make sense that people are on the magic train as it would often be an element.

So in my case, that specific Acuex was procced quietly by fire kill.

I got the KI from Acuex solo with trust (non ws ones) on Blu just doing requiescat spam for 7-15k dmg and then finishing the mob off with searing tempest.
 
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Could this also mean that were you to only count magic damage, this would be one heavy damage nuke per kill? Instead of counting Requiescat as adding to the damage.
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Odin.Bangla said: »
Could this also mean that were you to only count magic damage, this would be one heavy damage nuke per kill? Instead of counting Requiescat as adding to the damage.

Could be
  • Acuex are weak to fire, so damage/kill them with it (possibly within a dmg range? Mine did 5k+)

  • No physical weaponskill or

  • No Weaponskill over certain dmg limit



I may try just killing with only requiescat to see what happens :D
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I went in as DNC+GEO today and killed acuex using only melee + fire/ice nukes with malaise up. None of my trusts could WS (unless Monber's dark move counts).

3 acuex, got a chest with shard, killed the leech (used WSs), got a red chest, killed four more, got a chest with metal. One of my Acuex kills between shard and metal must not have counted.

I ended up killing the A wing boss, getting 6/7 chests in B (not the key one), and wasting time trying to kill Leshonn with GEO, DNC, and trusts. I got him to 75% but then he put up wind hand and trust healers really just aren't up to the job. Walked away with a few thousand muffins and 2 old cases per character, one of which became a terrible SAM earring +1.


Porter chest

First Acuex: Dia II, Geo-Malaise, melee damage, Fire V for 26392, Box Step, Animated Flourish, Blizzard V for 27895, Fire V for 28801, melee kill
Second Acuex: Dia II, melee damage, Fire IV for 21825, Aero V for 14674 (idk), Blizzard V for 20538, Fire IV for 21825, Fire V for 27730, melee kill
Third Acuex: Fire for 4413, Fire V for 27568, Blizzard V for 19152, Fire IV for 22549, Blizzard IV for 14893, Blizzard IV for 23641, melee kill - Chest with Shard

Obdella: made darkness and MBed it for the kill - Red chest

Fourth Acuex: Fire for 4291, Geo-Malaise, Fire V for 26811, Blizzard V for 28903, Fire IV for 20247, Blizzard IV for 14713, melee kill
Fifth Acuex: Fire III for 7947, Geo-Malaise, Fire V for 25131, Fire IV for 19779, Blizzard V for 26343, Blizzard IV for 18724, melee kill - Chest with 100 muffins
Sixth Acuex: Fire III for 7947, Fire V for 25131, Blizzard V for 26343, Fire IV for 22144, Blizzard IV for 13066, Fire V for 25612 (killed)
Seventh Acuex: Fire for 4021, Blizzard V for 26755, Fire V for 19664, Blizzard IV for 10386, Fire IV for 20089, Blizzard V for 18728, Fire V for 25054 (killed) - Chest with Metal

My counts are right because I was at chain 7 on the final kill with 3 magic damage kills for the timed RoE (Obdella + 2 Acuex). Monberaux never used his dark potion.
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Walked away with a few thousand muffins

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FYI - Ghatjot took some very heavy damage from Tachi: Kagero last night. I was on the wrong macro bar and meant to do Tachi: Shoha while the group was spamming WS, but hit Tachi: Kagero instead for 92k. We did have fury/frailty bubble up.

Additionally, we did full BLU Cleave on the Acuex and we did not proc the chest A objectives until we had the SCH go SC & MB their own mob. Not sure where the miss was on that.

Last observation - 2 nights ago we ran and went into Leshonn's room to fight him, and he flat out did not spawn. We even left the room and re-entered, and verified all party members had the appropriate items (everyone could use the gadget). I'm going to chalk that one up to server lag or a bug, but not sure if anyone else has experienced Leshonn just not spawning.
 
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So, I went in solo, Did some objectives in A, moved to B area, I was in the room with Winf/Lightning elementals, fighting them and Cachaemic Bhoot popped. I thought he was a C NM, is that normal?
 
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