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 Shiva.Kuranesae
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By Shiva.Kuranesae 2022-08-19 22:58:24
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1thenumber said: »
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Tried various 10k Magic kills for Metal A tonight. Tried all types of mobs, all elements, MB kills from 10%/20%/30% up to 50%, tried non-MB kills from 12% hp (more than 10k hp).

None of these worked, it's something else doing it.

You need to do 100% of the damage using magic (or something close to it). I got it easily today by simply spamming ninjutsu magic on 5 mobs and not meleeing it. Video on previous page goes over it.

After failing with BLU AOE spells last night, I went in as RDM and...(snipped)

Just did a 7/7 #A run on BLU and can confirm pure blue magic kills count. I used a typical cleave set of spells and did NOT engage so no trusts would be hitting it. Rotated S.Flow, Entomb, Tenebral Crush, Searing Tempest, and popped Magic Hammer when I needed mp. Got it on the 5th kill.

Later for the 'magic kill >10k' I did melee/trusts down to ~<10% and finished off with Spectral Flow (was Ice Day if it matters?) and eventually got that chest as well.

Also, for the magic near A's device I got it casting Erratic Flutter, so BG-wiki's table for specifically 'Enhancing Magic' isn't really true. I think it's probably any buffing magic? (I've never tinkered in wiki and don't know the courtesies of adjusting any of that kind of info)
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By Phoenix.Miraun 2022-08-19 23:02:01
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We killed a Ghoul in C with a Light SC for the C Shard coffer
Did it again a few more times for the Metal in C
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By Chimerawizard 2022-08-19 23:03:49
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Sylph.Gobbo said: »
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no shard? what color was it? blue? red?
Sorry I was looking through my recording, it looks like I didn't catch the 2nd one :/
The all jobs one dropped a blue one though. I think the 2nd one dropped a red one, but all I know for sure is that it yielded just the 500 gallimaufry.
then it's because you killed the D NM before killing those. Red chest rewards 500 muffins. unsure what other mechanic is involved, but that is one factor.
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By Fenrir.Positron 2022-08-19 23:07:11
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Shiva.Kuranesae said: »
Also, for the magic near A's device I got it casting Erratic Flutter, so BG-wiki's table for specifically 'Enhancing Magic' isn't really true. I think it's probably any buffing magic? (I've never tinkered in wiki and don't know the courtesies of adjusting any of that kind of info)

Thanks for the info. We can update the wiki but we need more tests like this to narrow down the exact requirements. Please continue to post whatever you discover.
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By Shiva.Kuranesae 2022-08-19 23:09:57
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Fenrir.Positron said: »
Shiva.Kuranesae said: »
Also, for the magic near A's device I got it casting Erratic Flutter, so BG-wiki's table for specifically 'Enhancing Magic' isn't really true. I think it's probably any buffing magic? (I've never tinkered in wiki and don't know the courtesies of adjusting any of that kind of info)

Thanks for the info. We can update the wiki but we need more tests like this to narrow down the exact requirements. Please continue to post whatever you discover.

Gotcha, thanks! I get that.

I'm like 85% sure yesterday my friend's PLD got it with a Cure/Curing Magic, but we can double check tomorrow when we go again together
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By Asura.Lordoftheseven 2022-08-20 00:02:45
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anyone figure out how to get D plate ?
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By Odin.Nappy 2022-08-20 00:14:21
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10k kill not needed for metal

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By Ragnarok.Kanryu 2022-08-20 01:07:28
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Fenrir.Positron said: »
Shiva.Kuranesae said: »
Also, for the magic near A's device I got it casting Erratic Flutter, so BG-wiki's table for specifically 'Enhancing Magic' isn't really true. I think it's probably any buffing magic? (I've never tinkered in wiki and don't know the courtesies of adjusting any of that kind of info)

Thanks for the info. We can update the wiki but we need more tests like this to narrow down the exact requirements. Please continue to post whatever you discover.

Can confirm we have tried Erratic Flutter, Monomi: Ichi, and Stoneskin. All worked. I assume at this point that it is any self-casted spell that results in a buff being placed.
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By Churanira 2022-08-20 01:19:37
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got metal A from a 1% MB with fire one on an acuex
didn't get

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By Fenrir.Positron 2022-08-20 01:26:54
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Fenrir.Positron said: »
Shiva.Kuranesae said: »
Also, for the magic near A's device I got it casting Erratic Flutter, so BG-wiki's table for specifically 'Enhancing Magic' isn't really true. I think it's probably any buffing magic? (I've never tinkered in wiki and don't know the courtesies of adjusting any of that kind of info)

Thanks for the info. We can update the wiki but we need more tests like this to narrow down the exact requirements. Please continue to post whatever you discover.

I tested this in my run tonight and even casting healing magic on a different party member was sufficient to pop the chest. Comfortable saying it's simply "cast magic in range".
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By cuddlyhamster 2022-08-20 01:49:50
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Fenrir.Positron said: »
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Shiva.Kuranesae said: »
Also, for the magic near A's device I got it casting Erratic Flutter, so BG-wiki's table for specifically 'Enhancing Magic' isn't really true. I think it's probably any buffing magic? (I've never tinkered in wiki and don't know the courtesies of adjusting any of that kind of info)

Thanks for the info. We can update the wiki but we need more tests like this to narrow down the exact requirements. Please continue to post whatever you discover.

I tested this in my run tonight and even casting healing magic on a different party member was sufficient to pop the chest. Comfortable saying it's simply "cast magic in range".

spell has to have an effect though. tried to cast protect1 while having protect5 for a 'no effect' and no chest.
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By Asura.Shaedhen 2022-08-20 01:57:23
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Can confirm healing magic works. I cured myself right next to the device and it worked.
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-08-20 02:03:42
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Casting utsusemi also works.
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By lafilnemi 2022-08-20 02:30:18
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Did as logical suggested today (thanks for that):

Went in and killed first 7 with just magic (ninja, rdm):
first chest popped after 3(!) magic kills (random elements)
second on 5th
third on 6th magic kill.

Leaves me to believe that its not 5x 10k+ magic kills but something else with magic, maybe total magic damage?
Maybe also actual dmg, not overkill dmg, like omen is counting it.
Anyway worked like a charm.

Went to kill Boss A.

He went apeshit after Distortion skillchain, killed melees (50k+ dmg), was easy to kite for mages though and he calmed down after a while we also casted thunder on him which may helped?
Definetly avoid water dmg on him. Proceeded with SB spam, went down like a kitten
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By SimonSes 2022-08-20 03:50:27
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lafilnemi said: »
first chest popped after 3(!) magic kills (random elements)

I'm starting to think objective for this is to cast enough damaging magic spells or enough damaging magic spells of required element and/or maybe also damage 10-25k on the target and/or also only counts non kill shot casts. So just something like cast 10x 10k+ nukes that doesn't kill the mob. Or cast 10x 10k nukes with element that target is weak to.

That's why Blu works, NIN spamming ninjutsu works and RDM works. All of them cast many nukes hitting 10k+ that don't kill the target, sometime hit weakness etc. Whatever it is exactly I think it about number of nukes casted on target.
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By Asura.Wotasu 2022-08-20 04:21:33
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did the A: Shard and A: Metal in 6 kills today,
all in South Acuex Area. I was only using Fire to nuke them down and kill.
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09:20:07 [Player1] Fire III ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:20:08 [Player1] 18646 Fire III ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:20:08 Player1 defeats the Abject Acuex.

09:21:15 [Player1] Fire IV ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:21:16 [Player1] 24231 Fire IV ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:21:16 Player1 defeats the Abject Acuex.

09:22:30 [Player1] Fire III ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:22:32 [Player1] 11829 Fire III ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:22:32 Player1 defeats the Abject Acuex.
09:22:32 #A treasure coffer status report: 1/7 #?: 0/1.
09:22:38 You obtain the temporary item: Ra'Kaznar shard #A!
09:22:38 Player1 received 100 gallimaufry for a total of 1458.

09:24:25 [Player1] Fire V ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:24:26 [Player1] 31822 Fire V ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:24:27 Player1 defeats the Abject Acuex.

09:25:37 [Player1] Fire IV ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:25:38 [Player1] 25294 Fire IV ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:25:38 Player1 defeats the Abject Acuex.
09:25:39 #A treasure coffer status report: 2/7 #?: 0/1.
09:25:44 Player1 received 100 gallimaufry for a total of 1630.

09:26:34 [Player1] Fire III ¨ Abject Acuex
09:26:35 [Player1] 16569 Fire III ¨ Abject ?Acuex
09:26:35 Player1 defeats the Abject Acuex.
09:26:36 #A treasure coffer status report: 3/7 #?: 0/1.
09:26:41 You obtain the temporary item: Sheet of Ra'Kaznar metal #A!
09:26:41 Player1 received 100 gallimaufry for a total of 1760.
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By lafilnemi 2022-08-20 04:22:58
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SimonSes said: »
lafilnemi said: »
first chest popped after 3(!) magic kills (random elements)

I'm starting to think objective for this is to cast enough damaging magic spells or enough damaging magic spells of required element and/or maybe also damage 10-25k on the target and/or also only counts non kill shot casts. So just something like cast 10x 10k+ nukes that doesn't kill the mob. Or cast 10x 10k nukes with element that target is weak to.

That's why Blu works, NIN spamming ninjutsu works and RDM works. All of them cast many nukes hitting 10k+ that don't kill the target, sometime hit weakness etc. Whatever it is exactly I think it about number of nukes casted on target.

Yeah we were also leaning towards x times 10k+ dmg as well some nin spell do over 10k+, RDM almost always did 10k, going to see if its a fixed number next time.
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By Fenrir.Ahlen 2022-08-20 04:47:18
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lafilnemi said: »
SimonSes said: »
lafilnemi said: »
first chest popped after 3(!) magic kills (random elements)

I'm starting to think objective for this is to cast enough damaging magic spells or enough damaging magic spells of required element and/or maybe also damage 10-25k on the target and/or also only counts non kill shot casts. So just something like cast 10x 10k+ nukes that doesn't kill the mob. Or cast 10x 10k nukes with element that target is weak to.

That's why Blu works, NIN spamming ninjutsu works and RDM works. All of them cast many nukes hitting 10k+ that don't kill the target, sometime hit weakness etc. Whatever it is exactly I think it about number of nukes casted on target.

Yeah we were also leaning towards x times 10k+ dmg as well some nin spell do over 10k+, RDM almost always did 10k, going to see if its a fixed number next time.
My sch after killing 3 acuex did 12 over 10k nukes and got A shard. It took 7 more 10k+ nukes to finish off 3 more acuex and got A metal.
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By Shiva.Humpo 2022-08-20 07:16:25
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So this has been bugging me. Apologies if this has already been discussed.

We are all use to seeing this when we spawn a chest, with the 0/1 at the end.



However, Aburaage (post from page 20) had a 1/1 at the end of this with a gold chest.

Asura.Aburaage said: »

The message almost reads as if the "#?: 0/1. is separate from the "coffer status report 4/7"
I'm starting to wonder if chests have more than just the spawn mechanics tied to them and there is another condition that needs to be met to upgrade them. Or maybe there is just another condition in general that needs to be met for an 8th (aurum) coffer??

In any case, this has been bugging me, so I'd figure I'd mention it.
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By Asura.Neojuggernautx 2022-08-20 08:02:29
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Did Porxie. I may have messed up though. Went as blu, did savage to expiation for distortion and the requiescat for darkness. Probably didn’t need to do req for darkness. Didn’t kill it with SC. Once I dropped it I didn’t get credit for anything
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By Fenrir.Ahlen 2022-08-20 10:02:34
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I have a theory for the porxie chest. You need to have at least 4 objectives already done in B when you finish him. Anyone got logs of how many objectives they have done when they finish him?
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Asura.Neojuggernautx said: »
Did Porxie. I may have messed up though. Went as blu, did savage to expiation for distortion and the requiescat for darkness. Probably didn’t need to do req for darkness. Didn’t kill it with SC. Once I dropped it I didn’t get credit for anything

Maybe it needs to be a light skillchain? Or some specific element.
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By Fenrir.Aladeus 2022-08-20 10:18:35
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Killed porxie last night. Sam did an sc, rdm mb'd without killing, then nuked the last bit. Got red chest. I don't know how many B obj's we had done by then.
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By Heghmoh 2022-08-20 10:21:12
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shastax said: »
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Did Porxie. I may have messed up though. Went as blu, did savage to expiation for distortion and the requiescat for darkness. Probably didn’t need to do req for darkness. Didn’t kill it with SC. Once I dropped it I didn’t get credit for anything

Maybe it needs to be a light skillchain? Or some specific element.

i killed porxie today on MNK with 5-step light chain. no coffer
 
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Tinfoil hat time:

Has anyone had any "repeated" drops from the same source, be it red boxes or area bosses?

We've had a Case from Obdella red box, a Case from A boss, A case from gold box and a sapphire from B boss, but all of these things individually have only happened ONCE, repetitions have yielded nothing. Our very first obdella on patch day gave a case from the red box, all others have yielded nothing. Not sure if its a very low chance, or if there is something wider going on, perhaps everything is once only until main boss is killed and then zone resets/temps are all lost?

Highly doubt it because SE wants this content to be done by solo players too and that would completely screw them over. I think there is just a low chance for Sapphire and other stuff... I have done 5 runs so far without any Sapphire drops.
 
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bump; swapped out the map w/ the JP one.
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By Leviathan.Boposhopo 2022-08-20 11:21:50
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Shiva.Kuranesae said: »
Just did a 7/7 #A run on BLU and can confirm pure blue magic kills count. I used a typical cleave set of spells and did NOT engage so no trusts would be hitting it. Rotated S.Flow, Entomb, Tenebral Crush, Searing Tempest, and popped Magic Hammer when I needed mp. Got it on the 5th kill.

Just wanted to add SMN BPs count. Was able to trigger one with Stone IV from Titan, and Holy Mist from Carbuncle for the magic objectives. Stone IV did about 17k and Holy Mist was on a burst for 38k.
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