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By tyalangan 2021-03-10 13:40:37
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BG Ambuscade Archive:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Ambuscade_Archive#Tonberry

Old Thread:
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/53434/ambuscade-vol1-march-2019/4/#3569993

Key Items:
Geomagnetic Fount Mhaura > Temple of Uggalepih
Elshimo Uplands > Den of Rancor HP#1
Unity Warp > Temple of Uggalepih

Videos:
Brixy Standard PT VD Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3HOwfWn7Sc&t=30s
Logical NIN Solo E/Strat Guide: https://youtu.be/vfoY8yBq_jk
Kaggra RDM Solo D (27 min) (JP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoU4v4I4vng&t=169s
Sironeko BLU Solo E (JP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MP5Zs6g74Q

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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-03-10 13:47:30
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Hate reset quest every 2 runs is a requirement, don't be all "how did I get hit for 3k i was in full dt set" ol' head ***...
 
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By Bahamut.Brixy 2021-03-10 14:42:37
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Just gonna drop this video here. Hope it helps some peeps! Not to bad of a fight this month as long as everyone is on the same page.
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By Leviathan.Andret 2021-03-10 14:46:18
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Man, the goin coins are like GME stonks now.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-03-10 14:48:41
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Every cycle it's never not funny watching the coins go from worthless to 1000000% increase.

Same with the flavor of the month for that particular ambuscades gear, rdm wanted, rdm pieces inflate. people want nin? nin pieces double. pup you say? octuple value pup pieces on sale!
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-03-10 14:54:15
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Bahamut.Brixy said: »
Just gonna drop this video here. Hope it helps some peeps! Not to bad of a fight this month as long as everyone is on the same page.
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I remember this fight from before, but nobody ever clarified the Call For Help part. Does that actually do anything as far as accruing tonberry hate is concerned? It never seemed to work for me.
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By tyalangan 2021-03-10 14:58:28
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Yes, Calling for Help on adds should stop the gain of hate. So that should prevent you from resetting every single run as you only have the Monarch and KI tonberries to worry about.

Also, after watching the two JP videos above I believe the Tonberry adds have LoS aggro on the Rascal so pulling him to the far back corner behind the pillar will prevent the other adds from linking/aggroing. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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By Bahamut.Belkin 2021-03-10 15:38:25
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Call for Help definitely mitigates Tonberry Hate gain, which in turn lowers damage from Everyone's Rancor (single target) and Everyone's Wrath (AoE). A few runs of non-reset hate will result in Everyone's Wrath eatin' butts.

You can also CFH on the Monarch itself and still successfully complete the Ambu for rewards.

We couldn't figure it out, but there was a weird Everyone's Wrath or Rancor mechanic that would one shot our RUN for 99k damage after a hate clear, but Wrath/Rancor would just do 0-300 on the rest of the party members. Happened twice in different runs. Either way, even with deaths, you can easily just get up with some arises and keep going.
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By Asura.Crowned 2021-03-10 15:41:01
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Iirc from the last time this ambu was around, the 99k damage spikes are from hate swapping in the middle of the mega's 3 step. He does light of condemnation > lateral slice (distortion) > wraith sneak attack (darkness). If you lose hate after the second step, and distortion goes off but not darkness, it will burst everyone's anguish on the tank for 99k.
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By Bahamut.Brixy 2021-03-10 15:58:15
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Losing enmity sound correct. I only seen it go off 1 time earlier and someone else mentioned enmity then. It's probably a countermeasure to punish people trying to avoid the darkness skillchain. Otherwise you could use loose enmity or something like pacifying ruby to bypass the mechanic entirely.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-03-10 16:00:01
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That was the best consensus last time, having the mob change focus caused the 100k
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By Phoenix.Logical 2021-03-10 19:45:57
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Usual Intense Ambuscade Video going over strategy and solo examples. Looks like it will be Easy this month for soloers and a very doable VD for parties.

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By Odin.Creaucent 2021-03-10 21:05:03
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So we just had a VD run that we cleared by just killing the adds and not the monarch.
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
So we just had a VD run that we cleared by just killing the adds and not the monarch.

wat
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-03-10 21:23:08
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Did you maybe kill the smn last and for like 1 frame the game thought all mobs died before the monarch could pop?

Or like 99k the smn and skip its spawn phase?

Devils in the details.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2021-03-10 21:25:47
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Bahamut.Belkin said: »
Odin.Creaucent said: »
So we just had a VD run that we cleared by just killing the adds and not the monarch.

wat

Im just as confused.

We killed SMN first > blm > thf > thf > nin (which didnt 2hr) and boom that was it.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2021-03-10 22:59:43
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
So we just had a VD run that we cleared by just killing the adds and not the monarch.
Its possible that something bugged and Monarch just didnt load.

I remember one time I was doing the funguar Macro orb at the last campaign event to get I-Seals, and one run I had no adds spawn, just the main NM.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2021-03-11 06:03:56
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Odin.Creaucent said: »
So we just had a VD run that we cleared by just killing the adds and not the monarch.
Its possible that something bugged and Monarch just didnt load.

I remember one time I was doing the funguar Macro orb at the last campaign event to get I-Seals, and one run I had no adds spawn, just the main NM.

The Monarch was there I was just about to tab over to it when we got teleported out.
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By Heck 2021-03-11 08:17:23
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Did this fight yesterday with the same Strat in the video (RUN, BRD, SCH, COR, SAM, MNK) , but we had some problems with hate, specially with the throat slices. Pax from SCH wasn't really cutting it so we also changed the Bards 4th song and it made the run very smooth.

Bard would give DDs/Mage Marcato HM, Minuet, Mad + Dirge, and the tank got HM, Minuet, Mad + Sirvente. Haste, Pax, Regen, Phalanx from the SCH and fight was over in a couple minutes without tank loosing the Monarch.

In all honesty WHM still feels better than SCH in this fight, Pax (-10 enmity) feels like it just doesn't do enough and double erases/sacrifice and cureskin seem to be more smooth than SCH but it still works fine. RDM might be another option over SCH, can cap magic haste with haste 2 without using marcato and distract 3 should prevent sigh plus debuffs land very easily on the monarch.
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By Bahamut.Brixy 2021-03-11 08:57:48
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You honestly can go without a dedicated healer this month and use something like a summoner to heal instead. Hastega II and tp bonus for your DDs (Frees one of BRD's Marches for something else), all enemies are stunnable with shock squall (good to avoid mijin), and status removal / enmity fixing with carbuncle when you get to the monarch. Summoner can help with the elementals until the first boss is dead and throw in some extra damage after. Not 100% sure but they should be able to use Atomos and steal Sigh from the Monarch also. Idk if it's one of those gimmicky unstealable buffs or not.

damage is pretty tame this month. Assuming you don't get one shot because someone forgot to clear tonberry hate lol.
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By Bahamut.Viers 2021-03-12 15:50:48
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Couple interesting things doing VD today.

Ignored the turning mechanic on rune for the Bozzetto Shade, did 450 damage and darkness zero, second time did 245 damage, darkness 91.

Not sure if this is a new move but Slash Vitals is a hate reset on the target. I was building hate on my rune, while the dps were idle, it used slash vitals, then turned and just started hitting an idle cor for no reason. Had to start over building hate.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-03-12 16:04:45
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Bahamut.Viers said: »
Slash Vitals

This explains why I constantly kept getting hate on dragoon after using super jump twice with fly high...
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Quote:
This explains why I constantly kept getting hate on dragoon after using super jump twice with fly high...

I'm thinking they may have renamed Throat Slice as I have not seen that move yet.
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By Sylph.Brahmsz 2021-03-12 23:27:54
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So some strange happenings were going on this evening in our Ambu group. We were trucking along in Very Difficult on the final stretch of the fight and suddenly the shadow's Sneak Attacks were just one-shotting us.

I was tanking on RUN and as soon as the boss' Distortion animation would open and I'd turn for the shadow, the shadow's Sneak Attacks (Not the Skillchain damage but just the Sneak Attack) were successfully landing despite turning before it readied it.

This went on for... 3~4 minutes straight and then... it just stopped and went back to normal. I'm hard pressed to say it was lag because I know I (and other party members) were turning in time. Has anyone else been having a similar experience?
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By Korgull 2021-03-13 00:58:51
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Our group has been doing 2-3 daily VDs and we have the same issues. We turn and still randomly die.
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By Bismarck.Indigla 2021-03-13 15:33:47
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3min Xolla, RDM GEO COR RUN DRG WAR
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By Odin.Kingofthenorth 2021-03-13 17:17:32
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Never saw the shadow even pop in that fight, but it was hard to see anything.
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By Bahamut.Viers 2021-03-13 17:44:52
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Sylph.Brahmsz said: »
So some strange happenings were going on this evening in our Ambu group. We were trucking along in Very Difficult on the final stretch of the fight and suddenly the shadow's Sneak Attacks were just one-shotting us.

I was tanking on RUN and as soon as the boss' Distortion animation would open and I'd turn for the shadow, the shadow's Sneak Attacks (Not the Skillchain damage but just the Sneak Attack) were successfully landing despite turning before it readied it.

This went on for... 3~4 minutes straight and then... it just stopped and went back to normal. I'm hard pressed to say it was lag because I know I (and other party members) were turning in time. Has anyone else been having a similar experience?

Probably parrying the distortion skillchain and not turning fast enough for the Shades sneak attack, or lag.

It seems you have to turn before the Shade spawns to prevent it. I was turning towards it as soon as it spawned when tanking on WAR and would get sneak attack'd in the face half the time.
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