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Iron Giant Ambuscade V1
By Aricomfy 2021-02-16 12:37:36
Lute has graced us mortals once again.
By Draylo 2021-02-16 12:49:02
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Quetzalcoatl.Jakey
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2021-02-16 13:45:58
Before I watch this, how does the nin get away. The frost *** hax. His blizzaga has 30 yalm range. it is quite impossible to run from the first cast and it does more than enough to kill you.
Migawari? It cast, It landed, but looked like a zero inflicted damage. (2:52 ish) yeah I been soloing the frost for my group on nin, migawari eats one cast and since I dont lose any buffs and I usually barely survive the second cast it sometimes gets off, during manafont it moves extremely slowly like it has a form of gravity on it so you barely have to kite at all, actually good way to know when its off is he starts moving normal speed again.
If you have a ranger they can drop a shadowbind on it as well although then everyone has to move out of range.
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By Shiva.Arislan 2021-02-20 15:40:19
Sub 4-min VD clear by who else, Xolla:
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- RUN, NIN, COR, BRD, BLM & DRK,
- Calad DRK on Frost, he backs out to avoid dispels, no Utsusemi,
- COR and NIN 4-step (Leaden > Retsu > Leaden > Metsu) while BLM MB's water,
- During Manafont, DRK pops Scarlet Delirium and purposely gets clipped w/ -ga for damage boost.
By Draylo 2021-02-20 15:47:35
See the JP still use BLM!
Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-02-20 16:10:48
Far as I can tell what the BLM did could've been done (better) by having it be a GEO or RDM or SCH or SMN to speed up the nin/cor kill speed and nuke.
Not to start that again, just making a statement. It worked fine, could've been done better. Are they even capping haste with only a bard. and no flurry (brd/rdm?)
Prebuffed by a RDM before entering. If they couldn't prebuff haste/flurry would they have still opted for blm over rdm/geo/sch/smn.
(the blm could do haste 1 flurry 1)
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By Bismarck.Indigla 2021-02-20 16:26:36
Sub 4-min VD clear by who else, Xolla:
YouTube Video Placeholder
- RUN, NIN, COR, BRD, BLM & DRK,
- Calad DRK on Frost, he backs out to avoid dispels, no Utsusemi,
- COR and NIN 4-step (Leaden > Retsu > Leaden > Metsu) while BLM MB's water,
- During Manafont, DRK pops Scarlet Delirium and purposely gets clipped w/ -ga for damage boost.
OCR>Google Translated the text in the video
TA的にはだいふ難易度が高い新作アンバスでした
It was a new Ambass with a high degree of difficulty in terms of TA.
無想無念やエン削り等も試しましたが、物理側との火力差が
有りすきて物理手加減せざるを得なくなり戦闘時間が長くなります
I also tried remorse and shaving, but the difference in firepower from the physical side
You will have to adjust your physics as you like, and the battle time will be longer.
なので魔法側の削りを特化した編成となります
編成:剣忍コ黒詩暗F鉄巨人は暗のみで削ります。
So it will be an organization that specializes in shaving on the magic side
Organization: Kenninko Black Poetry Dark F Iron giants are scraped only in darkness.
暗の部分は魔法班に火力負けなければ何でも良いかも?
B鉄巨人は忍コ黒の多段連携MBで削ります。
The dark part may be anything as long as the magic team does not lose the firepower.
B Iron Giant is scraped with Shinobu Kokuro's multi-stage cooperation MB.
物理班は攻防比を確保するためにサポ戦でバーサクラスリゾ
します。セミがないのでタービンハリケーンは一撃避け前提です。
The physics team will use Versa Class Reso in the support battle to secure the offensive and defensive ratio.
To do. Since there are no cicadas, it is a prerequisite to avoid a turbine hurricane.
B鉄巨人はレデン→烈→レデン→生者必滅の湾曲闇連携に
黒が水系魔法を連続MBで削ります。
B Iron Giant is Reden → Retsu → Reden → Living Darkness Cooperation
Black scrapes water-based magic with continuous MB.
魔力の泉が発動したら攻撃ストップ。B鉄巨人側も削りすぎない
程度で止めます。忍のHP減ってるのは被弾ではなくJa暗黒です
Stop attacking when the magic fountain is activated. B Don't cut too much on the iron giant side
Stop at about. Shinobu's HP is decreasing, not the shot, but Ja darkness
魔力の泉のブリザジャは高威力なのでこれを利用して
レッドデリリアムを発動させます。
Brizaja, a fountain of magical power, has high power, so use this
Activate Red Delirium.
コはこの泉の待ち時間に黒にウイザーズロールをかけます
これにより泉後は物理魔法共に火力が上がります。
Ko puts a withers roll on black while waiting for this fountain
As a result, the firepower of both physical and magic will increase after the spring.
泉発動中は黒も盾にケアル参戦すると良いと思います。
I think it's a good idea to participate in Keal with Black as a shield while Izumi is active.
泉が終わったら削り再開します。物理側に最初のWSが入る
前にMBしすぎると差がついてしまうのでタイミング注意です
When the fountain is over, shaving will resume. The first WS is on the physical side
Be careful of the timing as it will make a difference if you MB too much before
あとは詩が両方のHPを監視しつつ削り切ります。
After that, the poem cuts off while monitoring both HPs.
ログしか見えませんが魔法削りも同じくらいのペースで
削れているようです。やはり魔法はMBが最強か
I can only see the log, but the magic shaving is at the same pace
It seems that it has been scraped. After all MB is the strongest in magic
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By Shichishito 2021-02-20 20:22:55
all skill obviously. it's only OP when BLU does it.
anyone a clue why some of the blizzard spells hit for 0 even tho he doesn't seem to have any form of stoneskin up? i guess the blue 0 are absorb procs (he seems to get a lot of those) at full HP, but that doesn't explain the red 0.
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By zixxer 2021-02-20 20:47:55
Sub 4-min VD clear by who else, Xolla:
YouTube Video Placeholder
- RUN, NIN, COR, BRD, BLM & DRK,
- Calad DRK on Frost, he backs out to avoid dispels, no Utsusemi,
- COR and NIN 4-step (Leaden > Retsu > Leaden > Metsu) while BLM MB's water,
- During Manafont, DRK pops Scarlet Delirium and purposely gets clipped w/ -ga for damage boost.
OCR>Google Translated the text in the video
TA的にはだいふ難易度が高い新作アンバスでした
It was a new Ambass with a high degree of difficulty in terms of TA.
無想無念やエン削り等も試しましたが、物理側との火力差が
有りすきて物理手加減せざるを得なくなり戦闘時間が長くなります
I also tried remorse and shaving, but the difference in firepower from the physical side
You will have to adjust your physics as you like, and the battle time will be longer.
なので魔法側の削りを特化した編成となります
編成:剣忍コ黒詩暗F鉄巨人は暗のみで削ります。
So it will be an organization that specializes in shaving on the magic side
Organization: Kenninko Black Poetry Dark F Iron giants are scraped only in darkness.
暗の部分は魔法班に火力負けなければ何でも良いかも?
B鉄巨人は忍コ黒の多段連携MBで削ります。
The dark part may be anything as long as the magic team does not lose the firepower.
B Iron Giant is scraped with Shinobu Kokuro's multi-stage cooperation MB.
物理班は攻防比を確保するためにサポ戦でバーサクラスリゾ
します。セミがないのでタービンハリケーンは一撃避け前提です。
The physics team will use Versa Class Reso in the support battle to secure the offensive and defensive ratio.
To do. Since there are no cicadas, it is a prerequisite to avoid a turbine hurricane.
B鉄巨人はレデン→烈→レデン→生者必滅の湾曲闇連携に
黒が水系魔法を連続MBで削ります。
B Iron Giant is Reden → Retsu → Reden → Living Darkness Cooperation
Black scrapes water-based magic with continuous MB.
魔力の泉が発動したら攻撃ストップ。B鉄巨人側も削りすぎない
程度で止めます。忍のHP減ってるのは被弾ではなくJa暗黒です
Stop attacking when the magic fountain is activated. B Don't cut too much on the iron giant side
Stop at about. Shinobu's HP is decreasing, not the shot, but Ja darkness
魔力の泉のブリザジャは高威力なのでこれを利用して
レッドデリリアムを発動させます。
Brizaja, a fountain of magical power, has high power, so use this
Activate Red Delirium.
コはこの泉の待ち時間に黒にウイザーズロールをかけます
これにより泉後は物理魔法共に火力が上がります。
Ko puts a withers roll on black while waiting for this fountain
As a result, the firepower of both physical and magic will increase after the spring.
泉発動中は黒も盾にケアル参戦すると良いと思います。
I think it's a good idea to participate in Keal with Black as a shield while Izumi is active.
泉が終わったら削り再開します。物理側に最初のWSが入る
前にMBしすぎると差がついてしまうのでタイミング注意です
When the fountain is over, shaving will resume. The first WS is on the physical side
Be careful of the timing as it will make a difference if you MB too much before
あとは詩が両方のHPを監視しつつ削り切ります。
After that, the poem cuts off while monitoring both HPs.
ログしか見えませんが魔法削りも同じくらいのペースで
削れているようです。やはり魔法はMBが最強か
I can only see the log, but the magic shaving is at the same pace
It seems that it has been scraped. After all MB is the strongest in magic
The translation gave me cancer.
By LightningHelix 2021-02-21 01:02:39
personally I prefer "Since there are no cicadas, it is a prerequisite to avoid a turbine hurricane."
good news, the Great Eastern Brood is due back this year, just in time for this ambuscade to be gone anyway
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2021-03-01 12:33:54
So my group is clearing D but haven't tried VD. Other than stats, is there any difference between D and VD this month?
For NINs that do this, what WS are you using on the physically resistant giant, and would you mind sharing your WS-sets? My NIN only puts out around 2k with Yu after I changed up my sets for it, and my Hi deals 3-5k, so I've just been spamming Hi for the additional damage from the SC. I'd like to deal more however, and not sure what I can do to achieve that.
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By Leviathan.Andret 2021-03-01 13:07:10
Sub 4-min VD clear by who else, Xolla:
YouTube Video Placeholder
- RUN, NIN, COR, BRD, BLM & DRK,
- Calad DRK on Frost, he backs out to avoid dispels, no Utsusemi,
- COR and NIN 4-step (Leaden > Retsu > Leaden > Metsu) while BLM MB's water,
- During Manafont, DRK pops Scarlet Delirium and purposely gets clipped w/ -ga for damage boost.
OCR>Google Translated the text in the video
TA的にはだいふ難易度が高い新作アンバスでした
It was a new Ambass with a high degree of difficulty in terms of TA.
無想無念やエン削り等も試しましたが、物理側との火力差が
有りすきて物理手加減せざるを得なくなり戦闘時間が長くなります
I also tried remorse and shaving, but the difference in firepower from the physical side
You will have to adjust your physics as you like, and the battle time will be longer.
なので魔法側の削りを特化した編成となります
編成:剣忍コ黒詩暗F鉄巨人は暗のみで削ります。
So it will be an organization that specializes in shaving on the magic side
Organization: Kenninko Black Poetry Dark F Iron giants are scraped only in darkness.
暗の部分は魔法班に火力負けなければ何でも良いかも?
B鉄巨人は忍コ黒の多段連携MBで削ります。
The dark part may be anything as long as the magic team does not lose the firepower.
B Iron Giant is scraped with Shinobu Kokuro's multi-stage cooperation MB.
物理班は攻防比を確保するためにサポ戦でバーサクラスリゾ
します。セミがないのでタービンハリケーンは一撃避け前提です。
The physics team will use Versa Class Reso in the support battle to secure the offensive and defensive ratio.
To do. Since there are no cicadas, it is a prerequisite to avoid a turbine hurricane.
B鉄巨人はレデン→烈→レデン→生者必滅の湾曲闇連携に
黒が水系魔法を連続MBで削ります。
B Iron Giant is Reden → Retsu → Reden → Living Darkness Cooperation
Black scrapes water-based magic with continuous MB.
魔力の泉が発動したら攻撃ストップ。B鉄巨人側も削りすぎない
程度で止めます。忍のHP減ってるのは被弾ではなくJa暗黒です
Stop attacking when the magic fountain is activated. B Don't cut too much on the iron giant side
Stop at about. Shinobu's HP is decreasing, not the shot, but Ja darkness
魔力の泉のブリザジャは高威力なのでこれを利用して
レッドデリリアムを発動させます。
Brizaja, a fountain of magical power, has high power, so use this
Activate Red Delirium.
コはこの泉の待ち時間に黒にウイザーズロールをかけます
これにより泉後は物理魔法共に火力が上がります。
Ko puts a withers roll on black while waiting for this fountain
As a result, the firepower of both physical and magic will increase after the spring.
泉発動中は黒も盾にケアル参戦すると良いと思います。
I think it's a good idea to participate in Keal with Black as a shield while Izumi is active.
泉が終わったら削り再開します。物理側に最初のWSが入る
前にMBしすぎると差がついてしまうのでタイミング注意です
When the fountain is over, shaving will resume. The first WS is on the physical side
Be careful of the timing as it will make a difference if you MB too much before
あとは詩が両方のHPを監視しつつ削り切ります。
After that, the poem cuts off while monitoring both HPs.
ログしか見えませんが魔法削りも同じくらいのペースで
削れているようです。やはり魔法はMBが最強か
I can only see the log, but the magic shaving is at the same pace
It seems that it has been scraped. After all MB is the strongest in magic
If you somehow understand this means you have been playing FFXI for far too long.
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By Asura.Emba 2021-03-01 13:42:07
Quote: For NINs that do this, what WS are you using on the physically resistant giant, and would you mind sharing your WS-sets? My NIN only puts out around 2k with Yu after I changed up my sets for it, and my Hi deals 3-5k, so I've just been spamming Hi for the additional damage from the SC. I'd like to deal more however, and not sure what I can do to achieve that.
When I'm on the physically resistant giant I typically 4 step using Chi > Retsu > Hi > Hi. I'm a Kannagi NIN so that's my go to for multistep, can stick the MB on the double darkness for a nice damage bonus as well. If you're using the aeonic katana, probably want to go Shun > Hi > Kamu > Shun > Shun.
For elemental WS purposes, I find Teki to be much more potent than Yu. IIRC Yu damage doesnt scale with TP like Teki does, I believe the poison is the scaler on that one.
For gearing suggestions, someone posted a NIN gearsets thread that has been bumped a few times recently that has some good info. Hope this helps!
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By SimonSes 2021-03-01 14:08:46
For elemental WS purposes, I find Teki to be much more potent than Yu. IIRC Yu damage doesnt scale with TP like Teki does, I believe the poison is the scaler on that one.
Yu is a magic WS, Teki is a hybrid WS. Hybrid WS wont work on something that resist physical damage, because magic portion of hybrid WS is based on physical damage portion.
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By Shiva.Arislan 2021-03-01 15:09:15
I hate cicadas! I probably skipped over that line. Lol
Fun fact: Utsusemi = empty cicada husk.
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By Shichishito 2021-06-03 12:19:45
Quote: Finally, a couple updates on Ambuscade. Intense Ambuscades feature a returning battle against giants, with Normal Ambuscade featuring an uragnite.
according to the version update notes june intense is going to be this one again.
By 1thenumber 2021-06-03 12:25:02
Quote: Finally, a couple updates on Ambuscade. Intense Ambuscades feature a returning battle against giants, with Normal Ambuscade featuring an uragnite.
according to this jun intense is going to be this one again.
Pretty sure they are referring to Gigas, not Iron Giants. They usually wait at least a year before bringing back an Ambu.
By Shichishito 2021-06-03 12:30:18
Pretty sure they are referring to Gigas, not Iron Giants. They usually wait at least a year before bringing back an Ambu. oh, ok. my bad.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-06-03 12:32:38
Quote: Finally, a couple updates on Ambuscade. Intense Ambuscades feature a returning battle against giants, with Normal Ambuscade featuring an uragnite.
according to this jun intense is going to be this one again.
Pretty sure they are referring to Gigas, not Iron Giants. They usually wait at least a year before bringing back an Ambu.
They might not be following this routine anymore. They brought back the current Mage Mamool sooner than a year. Maybe they want to get all the Ambuscades in at least twice before going to prior Intense Ambuscades for another rotation. Though it would be very soon if they brought IC back for another iteration.
By Katyl 2021-06-03 14:12:54
JP dev post stated 巨人 which would refer to the Gigas family.
Lakshmi.Cesil
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By Lakshmi.Cesil 2021-06-03 15:07:58
JP dev post stated 巨人 which would refer to the Gigas family.
Thank you for this! So glad it's not those 2 pesky iron giants again.
By Shichishito 2021-06-03 17:40:42
did a search for "giga" in the ambu sub forum with 0 hits but i find it hard to believe there hasn't been a thread made about that one yet. did ya'll get that one banned or am i just blind again?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-06-03 17:41:48
It's there. It's just 10 days out no point yet.
But if you're all going to keep bumping this one.
(not all the ambu threads made it into the ambu section, old gigas was in general)
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-11-10 00:28:51
November '21 bump
The mobs were adjusted in some way per the update notes
By Ruaumoko 2021-11-10 00:30:52
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By Asura.Otomis 2021-11-10 17:22:50
We just did some dry runs. Nin tank seems to work well but cannot tank 2 mobs. The older video from JP seems like it would still be a decent strategy.
Run + Heavy DD, team Blue?
Nin + Cor + Blm, team Rdm?
A healer type of course.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-11-10 18:22:08
Nin tank seems to work well but cannot tank 2 mobs.
It can, you just need to utilize the right set and keep re-applying shadows for hate. I posted about this earlier in the year with a set that allowed me to survive with just trust buffs for a good period of time on VD.
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/33470/the-sealed-dagger-a-ninja-guide/212/#3568310
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BG Ambuscade Archive:
Old Thread:
Key Items:
Arcana
Fei'yin HP#2: 3 weapons right in front of crystal
Upper Delkfutt's Tower #1: Lots of pots if you drop down a floor
Ifrit's Cauldron #1: couple of bombs in front of crystal
Videos:
Kaggra NINx2 PT VD 6min (JP): https://youtu.be/x2zwHBQNAu8
Logical NIN SOLO N - RDM SOLO E/VE (NA): https://youtu.be/XI-axEq3tkY
Kaggra RDM SOLO E (JP): https://youtu.be/7OyuSI8BZO4
Lute NIN SOLO E (JP): https://youtu.be/a3oHj17ZuuY
Lute SAM SOLO E (JP): https://youtu.be/InVuMnRKFFU
Key Notes:Frostlad:
Cyclone Turbine: High area of effect damage, dispel, <20 range
Seismic Impact: AoE Slow, Terrorize, high damage, hate reset
Arm Cannon: AoE fire damage, Max HP/Max MP down
Incinerator: Conal fire damage, burn
Scapula Beam: AoE damage, all stats down
Eradicator: AoE damage, weakness, <20 range
Ballistic Kick: Conal damage, hate reste, Encumbrance
Blazelad:
Strategies:
Very Difficult
Ranged Setup: RUN, COR, COR, BRD, WHM, GEO.
Two shooty boys, one doing Last Stand on Frostlad and the other doing Leaden Salute on Blazelad. (Which is weird because the attempt prior, the magic and physical resists of both were reversed?)
Keeping them similar HP negated ALL of the mechanics. The two only spammed Cyclone Turbine the entire time. No Eradicator. No chat messages. No two-hours. No blizzaga. No invulnerable. No regens. Nothing.
Cyclone Turbine over and over. Despite the RUN being buffless the entire time, it was pretty non-threatening.
The problem? It took 15 minutes and our COR's are geared to the teeth with full REMA buffs from the BRD and GEO.
If the intended method of doing this is keep them close in HP, then that leads to unending Dispel spam, then melee is absolutely not an option. Even in full m.eva gear, it would be a matter of seconds before you lose every buff you have.
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