February 2021 Version Update

Some lessons are easier to learn than others. Geometry vs Calculus etc

Wait, so the cool weapons and access to the older armor are a 1%-0.1% chance in the bonanza? I can see making the armor like Dagon and such be a low chance, but putting in actually useful weapons that only people who spend a ton of money to have a ton of mules and/or are very lucky can EVER get is beyond asinine.

Malignance runs you 0 gil. . .

Time is money doe, how many millions worth in time spent does it cost. (it's gonna vary a lot, a thousand VE solos is > 0 gil)

Yeah, alt colored barone and the tojil helm aren't really the best lockstyle...

Bois, /displayhead off, or lockstyle something cuter

Easily solved, fugly headpieces are a nonissue... subligars........

You would have issues with me. I hardly ever wear pants in-game

They added a /displayhead function a long time ago to show or hide head gear. We're still waiting for the /displaypants function.

Fancy icon you have beside your name, might want to not wave it around too much in public.

I didn't know GMs play this game

I probably should reply to this in NIN thread.

This new katana is actually very useful as a mixed dps piece for nin. You don't need to swap to Gokotai for nukes anymore, since this has MAB+MDMG (obviously Gokotai is higher), and the WSD/STP is comparable to Ternion +1's TA/WSD. It's a pretty good combined piece for NIN offhand, I am not mad at it.

Yeah, I mean... Kunimitsu certainly isn't bad, it's in the top handful of offhand NIN options. If you're nuking too, I think the great magic stats are reason enough to use it as the offhand of choice. But for pure melee-only DPS when you don't get a chance to magic burst (i.e., most parties with anything more than 2 DDs), I still just don't see it beating Ternion +1. That even includes adding hypothetical DMG+15 Atk+30 augments (which is what I'm seeing on most of the other weapons). Eventual 3rd augment may change that though.

Ruau's first mention of it in this topic with "RIP Ternion" was just a bit too much hyperbole, that's all. New update excitement, I get it.

FWIW, Ternion +1 is also useful for a lot of jobs versus a similar DPS NIN only piece - may be relevant to people prioritizing things.

Anyway, I'll take future discussion over to the NIN thread :)

It's funny, because... it's true.

I find it interesting that in this thread you are willing to acknowledge that pixels do have meaning. As you said, "time is gil." Funny how that works.

Time is never not money, nothing "funny" about a factual statement

Yes, exactly. So if "time = money" in all cases, then the time spent earning pixels = money. Therefore, pixels have value and stealing them is immoral.

Contrary to popular belief, a thing can have a non-zero value, and simultaneously be worthless.

Something can have a non-zero dollar value and be worthless? That is an oxymoron, sir.

Paradoxical as you feel it may be, fact it remains.

Its fair even to a non-gilseller to equate time in game to money...in game.

It's not paradoxical. . . it's cognitive dissonance. Your assertion is that time ALWAYS equals money. Therefore, time spent is always worth some dollar value. So now your statement is that yes, time is both worth $x and worthless. That is cognitive dissonance.

And that's not to say that I disagree with the idea that something can have value AND be worthless from a monetary standpoint. For example, a photograph that may have tremendous sentimental value to a person is technically worthless in terms of dollars and therefore if something of that nature is destroyed there is no legal recourse for any type of recovery.

But that's not what you're talking about. It appears to me you're willing to engage in cognitive dissonance to justify being a terrible person in game and to justify others doing likewise.

The whimsical deflection of "it's a paradox!" is pretty humorous, at least.

Let's assume for arguments sake that he did mean *only* in-game currency and also ignore the fact that there is a real-world value that can be ascribed to in-game items and currency.

It still flies in the face of his previous argument that gil/items have no meaning and therefore it is neither moral nor immoral to steal such items. Now he is saying gil is time. Either gil = nothing or gil = time but it certainly can't be both.

Obviously, it's pointless to have a debate to this degree on the topic because it's pretty clear on its face that it's wrong to steal in-game items/currency because people do invest a lot of time and sometimes real money into their in-game characters and it makes people feel bad if you do steal from them. But I just like to argue. Haha

Simply fishing for an argument you won't get.

Benefit of the doubt ran out.

These new weapons and helms are all recolored dark versions of all the Delve stuff from what I see.

do you really need 3 mogophones II to enter Tier 3's?

yeah helms are the helms from the delve boss types that match the new mobs

and armor is recolored other gear with slight changes

whm set - nobles tunic
blm set - marduks
thf set - plastron
rng set - pahluwan
mnk set - no idea, shura togi? war shinobi gi?
war set - barone