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 Caitsith.Mahayaya
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2020-11-18 10:54:18
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Miracle Cheer or the Staff seems to be the best. Miracle Cheer is great for prebuffing for Aeonics or other events like Master Trials. 15 minutes of SV+CC +3 instrument songs could be better than 12 minutes of SV+CC +4 instrument songs for longer fights.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-11-18 11:24:40
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I would at least be fair that it's both.

Some things they aren't allowed to do and some things they simply don't care enough to do.
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By Asura.Bippin 2020-11-18 11:27:32
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I mean really we have no idea right? With that said would be great if they could engage more
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By Odin.Creaucent 2020-11-18 11:45:15
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RadialArcana said: »
SimonSes said: »
I wonder if thats on SE or them. Like if they can do all that, but choose not to, or are simply not allowed to type single word anywhere unless its official statement copy/paste.

I think they are just afraid of interacting with the communities of the games they are paid to interact with, which is like a life guard afraid of water.

They are also reps for XIV which they do a lot more with. I just assumed that also being reps for XI was more of an after thought for SE because why do they need reps now for a 20 year old game.
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 Asura.Tsm
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By Asura.Tsm 2020-11-18 15:59:16
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the game needs in game content, not out of game content. if SE was going to hire i really hope they would not hire someone else for the community
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-11-18 16:17:00
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Honestly, a crew of folks, per-server, that wanted to hop on and purely assist some new folks to get their feet wet would be the way to go.

Buuuuuuuuut..... That is supposed to be what the community itself ought to be doing, bored with the game? Scrape together a bunch of newbs and run them through content.....

Complaining about lack of content combined with the gap that is vet vs newb.....

I call out everyone who has a good handle on the current game, to take on an apprentice and have fun guiding and watching them progress.

Buuuuuuuuut..... Likely that most vets will not be bothered to do that without mercing people into apathy. Because.... "What do I get out of it!?!" Is the prevalent attitude.
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By Asura.Tsm 2020-11-18 17:02:23
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pretty stupid *** take considering theres 0 "new" players. there's people who return but there's not any "new" players. and unless they've been living under a rock if they actually are a new player they'll google a guide or something, like literally everyone under the age of 60 does.

no idea why people keep pitching this idea and it's that same dumb take that got us this shitty mentor chat instead of some actual content
 
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By Asura.Shermansmith 2020-11-18 18:58:45
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@endxen most don't appreciate it. Your right. But, what if no one ever tried? It would be the end indefinitely. Leaving the door open, rather than closing it.
 
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By Asura.Tsm 2020-11-18 19:14:56
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yeah, i think all the other mmos get players by catering to new players with chat systems and not adding any new content. i mean look at WoW, they definitely have added less content than ffxi over the last years and have less subs. i mean really, who doesn't want to play a game that hasn't had meaningful content in 4+ years? (this is all sarcasm if you're unable to tell).

radialarcana you're shitting up all these topics with this same bad take. also i explicitly said there are returness. there's no new players that stick around though and if they do they google a guide, they don't read chat lore, that age of MMO gaming died decades ago, sorry you're stuck in it.

stop letting SE get away with this with your stupid takes
 
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By Draylo 2020-11-18 23:21:35
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Digimon masters online of course!
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By Asura.Shermansmith 2020-11-19 01:47:13
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"The world is the main character, the player is the story and the community is the content." kid3050 who made a youtube video recently about leaving Blizzard because of the direction of WoW and it's virtual world. I thought I'd leave the quote here. Please note, I'm not comparing wow to ffxi or vis a versa.
 
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By Asura.Tsm 2020-11-19 07:40:11
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RadialArcana said: »
Have you even played it for an extended amount of time? all you do is *** and moan about it.
aren't you the guy who just posted that he just came back from ff14?

yeah, i've been here the whole time. sounds like you haven't been and you're trying to press your ***opinions on how SE needs to cater to new players and lose all their current ones.
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By SimonSes 2020-11-19 07:59:40
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Sounds more like you are masochist that like to be frustrated etc. Maybe your RL is predictable and easy (good for you), but mine for sure isn't and I don't look for more frustration in online games and my best memories are also not connected with anything like that. Quite the opposite, in game I search for steady grind and comfort of being in place that have rules I know and outcomes I can predict. My best memories is from having fun with my friend during our Abyssea grinds.

So kindly stop writing like you are the voice of the community, because for sure you are not representing my feelings and point of view.
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By Asura.Suteru 2020-11-19 09:17:03
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There are new players, they just don't post here because all that's here is shitheads like you whining about how there's no new content and the new content they do add doesn't count.
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By Asura.Tsm 2020-11-19 09:20:09
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asura's population was peaking around 4000~ 3 months ago. lately it's lucky to hit 2700.

rooks doesn't publish historical data for ffxaih but you can confirm that we have been on a downward trend for a while by checking database numbers on waybackmachine or something. this is due to the current content drip by SE.

if there are new players, they are being heavily outweighed by current players quitting. anyone saying otherwise has no idea what they are talking about whatsoever and has 0 data to back up their claim.

SE should definitely be focusing on creating content for current players, not catering to "new" players (of which i'd argue 95% are returnees.)

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By Pantafernando 2020-11-19 09:40:34
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You know, world after covid, unemployment, recession, all factor that cobtributes to reduce the amount of people playing not just ffxi but any other game.

You cant blame it all on a single factor. Everything has some contribution, good or bad
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By Draylo 2020-11-19 09:48:05
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I personally know a handful that have quit due to lack of content. Sadly we are in quite the content drought atm and it seems SE doesn't care to let us know whats going on or what to expect. NOV being sold as "more content that was why OCT was lite" then we come to see its void of anything. The new missions are all short 5 minute cutscenes, etc. I think we are in a drought and the numbers are reflecting that.
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2020-11-19 10:05:24
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It honestly seems pretty delusional to think the lack of new content isn't driving numbers down. Quarantine probably helped keep sub numbers afloat for quite a while through the Spring and early Summer same as they did for pretty much every game out there, but it couldn't last forever. People just run out of ***to do; I like XI as much as anybody but there comes a point when there's literally nothing for you to really do.

An interesting December update coinciding with what will probably be the bleakest winter in the life of any living American might help things but I'm not holding my breath.
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By Asura.Tsm 2020-11-19 10:09:53
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yeah, it's really flabbergasting that people are arguing that the content released recently from SE is acceptable but this game has always had an insane amount of white knights playing mithras.

we get it, covid slowed down the content, all of us that had to shift to working from home understand it was a change, but if we're sitting here at month 8 into working from home and you still haven't figured out how to get your people to work that's the sign of an incredibly dysfunctional company that probably should be looking at new management
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By Asura.Biglovin 2020-11-19 10:12:55
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Asura.Suteru said: »
There are new players, they just don't post here because all that's here is shitheads like you whining about how there's no new content and the new content they do add doesn't count.

I don't read all things coming out and only play a few nights a week with a couple friends doing small group things for fun. Honestly wondering though, what new content has been released that isn't being counted? The last thing I can even think of that might be counted as released content was Shoel C reskin of B and A?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-11-19 10:25:45
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The entirety of odyssey is "doesn't count as content"

It's just (inefficient) non-bot spark farming - End result being gil, no gear. Rookie mistake saying "new content" but has no reward.
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By Asura.Biglovin 2020-11-19 10:32:07
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So Lilith fight is probably last thing added?
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By Odin.Creaucent 2020-11-19 10:44:16
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Asura.Tsm said: »
yeah, it's really flabbergasting that people are arguing that the content released recently from SE is acceptable but this game has always had an insane amount of white knights playing mithras.

we get it, covid slowed down the content, all of us that had to shift to working from home understand it was a change, but if we're sitting here at month 8 into working from home and you still haven't figured out how to get your people to work that's the sign of an incredibly dysfunctional company that probably should be looking at new management

You are mixing up a dysfunctional company with a game they no longer really care about that has probably what 20k-50k players?

You have things like XVI in development and the game everyone on here hates XIV. Lets just face it the only endgame content that is even meaningful is making Ultimate Weapons and what do people do when they have them all? What do you do when you have cleared all the content? What do you do when people you talk to no longer log on?

"SE needs to make more content" is the phrase i see being passed around and lets face it there is going to come a time that making content for XI is no longer profitable. All we are getting now is band-aid content like Odyssey and Ambuscade and because they are super easy because they are designed for lower geared characters. It wouldnt surprise me if Empy+2 and +3 comes from Odyssey and again it will be easy and anyone with maxed end game gear is going to clear it quickly and have Empy+3 finished.

Asura.Biglovin said: »
So Lilith fight is probably last thing added?

Still band-aid content all i did was spam E with my PUP and my COR alt and now im done with that fight.
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