Defuding The Police & The Aftermath

Oh, so now we're past "large groups" and into "huge groups". And "getting their party on" is not the same thing as mass-rioting in major cities across the country.

The original point is which you tried to deflect from is, nobody is going to go and commit crimes where they can possibly be incarcerated or killed JUST to try and show, "See? Look what defunding the police does!!!" It's laughable. Conservatives, as a whole, don't have enough nuts to work that way. The leftist, socialist mobs are much more prone to work that way and they have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt these past 4 months.

Yeah, they only murdered 1 person and attempted to murder many more. And that excuse of "Oh, they should have just been left alone" didn't really hold up in court. Turns out counterprotesting doesn't actually provide motive for murder.

Also, I would trade a statue for a human life in a heartbeat. I would also trade a closed highway for a human life. Thats just me tho. The right wing extremists don't seem to agree.

Blah, blah, blah. Your extremist examples and your extremists words don't cover up the fact you now you're wrong, there is no comparison in the two groups. This isn't 1950, this is 2020. The bad guys on the right have been clearly identified and are watched closely. The bad guys on the left are being pushed as heroes by the media. Neo nazi groups are a inconsequential afterthought in the US, even if you can find some video of them hanging out in the "tens" in some field burning a cross.

As soon as a group of tens of thousands of white nationalists, I repeat, starts plundering one of America's major cities, beating down black, elderly business owners, breaking into Cabella's for fishing lures, painting swaztikas on city municipal buildings, I'll meet you there to fight them. Not going to happen so I'm pretty confident I won't have to commit to that last statement.

Now, if you can agree to fight against leftist, socialist tyranny of groups of them beating innocent people, burning down buildings, shooting and killing police officers and business owners (yes, this has happened, many more have died this way than one a~hole driving his car into a crowd) then maybe we can start this bromance right.

So, Vic's equivalence of these destructive left-wing rioters is a single march that led to one death, a few solo-act lunatics, and some other crazies who rally amongst themselves.

Nice try.

No I never tried to deflect from this. You are trying to compare the "average conservative" to extremists when hey, I immediately called you out on it because that comparison doesn't work. Because guess what, the "average liberal" doesn't do these things your alleging either. There are 340 million people in this country, the percentage of people that have gone to a protest is probably..1%? Max. Thats being super generous, honestly that is too high, the peak number was probably hit shortly after Floyd was murdered in May. The number now is probably in the tens of thousands. A fractional percentage of the population. So it turns out, the average conservative is the exact same kind of person the average liberal is.

Except the actions of liberal extremists are given validation by mainstream news sources. Whether or not someone has actually gone to one of these protests does not mean that they don't support it.

Again, get rid of the word "average" and replace it with "extreme" and my statement is still true. You've yet to supply the video of a group of tens of thousands of right wing extremists (or averages) doing what socialist children have been doing these past 4 months. nothing even close exists. And keep bring up the one a~hole who ran that girl over with his car...the leftist mobs have a death toll these past few months on their hands that dwarf that one, if you want to go down that path.

I'm just waiting for Vic to launch into his, "I am right and you are wrong! YOU ARE WRONG!" tirade he normally does once the one point he tries to make even starts to tire him out.

Uh, no. First of all, there were numerous rioters in Minneapolis that were arrested and identified as right wing. Pretty sure the biggest arsonist there was in a white nationalist motorcycle club, from the South. Tennessee maybe? He was a long way from home.

I mean really, what went down in Minneapolis was barely politically motivated. We have been over this before, those people that closed the highway weren't identifying with a political ideology, they were people that were tired of being killed by the police. And they were just standing on the highway, hardly extreme. They took exception when a semi truck rammed a barrier and drove into them. But they still weren't left or right wing. This was way before Seattle and Portland. The rioting that happened at night in Minneapolis was the younger crowd that again, was tired of the police. They weren't left or right wing, they probably don't even vote. Seems like this has been talked about before. Probably in Riot 1.

Yea, this never happens.

Sure lets go down that path. How many people have been killed in the last few months by the left wing extremists, as compared to the right in the last few months? I remember the Sante Fe murderer was a right wing extremist.

Lolwut? Everything is political, bro. There is absolutely a political lean here. If you polled them, I guarantee you would see a huge leftist skew.

Are we cherry-picking murder, or should we loop in property damage, assault, attempted murder (hello to the arsonists who tried to trap people in a burning building), or the other many crimes being committed here?

lolsure. I'm sure if you polled all the daytime protesters that weren't doing anything there would be a leftist lean. They would probably also tell you they didn't give a ***about politics, they were out there to protest the police killing their community, and they would vote for whomever stood next to them. I'm sure if you polled the rioters at night, I mean, I bet they would have an answer for you in some capacity.

Prong said death toll, so we are going with deaths only. I'm pretty curious as to what he comes up with?

Well, the last time the media cared to update us, which was like over a month ago, there had been 17 murders (not including the ones in CHAZ/CHOP who I don't think they've concluded yet who did those) from the leftist mobs, most being cops that were specifically targeted, including the one ex cop. The white girl shot in the head by BLM protesters in Indiana can toss that one in there as well. Don't make me look each one up since you don't even supply one link, you know you're wrong. Can I go do something more productive than argue now? You can have the last word, it's yours. Buh bye.

Here, I'll throw you a bone. Now gonna go actually play FFXI some before I have to get up and mow my 8 acres and my neighbor's 3 acres because I'm too nice.

Here's a little story.

Peaceful protesters in Portland.

Look at these pieces of garbage, looting the guy's truck after they basically beat him to death as far as they know for trying to protect a trans person from being robbed. And for being white.

Yep, we don't need police because these are just peaceful protesters.

facts I don't like

This is the biggest load of crap I have seen in a while.

Besides, they do get mainstream coverage. And you proved it in this post.

Because, if they didn't get mainstream coverage, you would never have known they hold such rallies. Unless, of course, you are a member of this group.

If it never gotten coverage, I would have never have known such rallies are held. And even then, it is very rare, much less than the leftist rallies held practically every month. Which, frankly, have been more prevalent since Trump has been elected.

lol, what exactly are you trying to deny here? White hate doesn't hold rallies all the time? They do. They don't cause trouble wherever they go? They do. They don't get coverage? They don't.

are there black hate rallies?

So, again, how do you know this if they don’t get news coverage?

Nobody is denying that.

But guess what? Black hate also holds rallies all the time.

So do leftist hate. They have been holding "rallies" at many cities for the past few months now, in case you haven't realized it yet.

Same for the black hate and leftist hate groups.

Double negative? Or are you implying that they don't get national coverage from both paper and TV outlets.

And it only took me 1 minute to grab all 11 of those links.

Vic, get your head out of the hole in the ground you currently have it in. Seriously. Stop pretending that the only "hate groups" out there are "white supremacists" and that they do not get national coverage.

Yes, but they aren't widely publicized.

You try Googling black hate groups and you get only 1 real hit (a single slideshow) and the rest groups black hate groups with other hate groups.

How amusing. Once again, you are going off on a tangent alleging I said things that I didn't actually say. You do this all the time. I never said anything about black hate not holding rallies. Way to not make any kind of a point. Again.


Remains accurate.