Orc Ambuscade V1

I adjust bard to do double light carols and charm missed everytime.

Bluemage spamming entomb > floe > sleep > crush > entomb

Worked like a charm (no pun intended)


***Sorry forgot to mention im doing BLU strategy. BLU GEO BRD COR WHM RDM

The enmity generation for magic dmg and physical dmg are identical. Although there are some exceptions to this. But if you're talking about AoE BLU nukes, vs melee/ws or AoE Physical WS then there is no difference in the dmg dealt to enmity gnerated ratio there.

The typical exceptions are,
-Magical WS. These do generate less enmity than normal. Apparently they use the base dmg of the WS before dSTAT and MAB/Affinity/weather for the enmity value.
-Magic Bursts. These generate vastly reduced enmity. But the exact reduction has never been quantified.
-Select WS of either variety that specifically reference their enmity properties. (Coronach, Namas Arrow, Wildfire.)

So free nukes(non MB) and physical dmg are on equal footing in terms of point of dmg to point of enmity ratio.

After doing a few runs this morning, I think I enjoy going BLU/BLM and opening with ES Silent Storm > Unbridled Droning Whirlwind. Dispels everything's buffs and makes sure they can't even attempt to reapply anything (aside from Warcry). Lets me be lazy.

but what about MG?

Don't need it, really.

Depends on the jobs you bring, though. If you got people with Daybreaks then you could just Dispelga spam instead and use your Unbridled on MG, but I tri-box BLU BRD WHM and that's the easiest way for me to get stuff under control quickly.

Thx for explanation. I was under impression it worked like magic WS. Good to be corrected and know better!

You do this on VD?
You can survive that long with everything on you (cure spam?) or you actually mix crowd control in while doing Silent Storm and Droning?

I go with a party of 6, so there's a tank. Sorry if "I tri-box BLU BRD WHM" made it seem like I was doing it with trusts filling the other slots.

I haven’t seen this mentioned but you can bypass invincible by stunning the boss right before and pushing it down fast enough. RUN with a macc set can stun reliably.(credit to Hiep)

Been doing VD now on blue mage

BLU WHM COR BRD RDM GEO

run right into the middle and sleep.

geo malaise/vex/attunement
cor samurai/fighters
bard march/mad/lightcarolx2
whm auspice/boostint/barfira/baramnesra
rdm debuffs

engage the boss on blue and spam 1K sanguine blades. Entomb every time it's cooldown is ready. 15 minute clears... no charm at all.

F.I.F.T.E.E.N.

Not sure if it's been said yet, but a friend and I (5box) are doing 10m VD runs with this setup:

Run/war
Drg/sam
Geo/rdm
Brd/nin
Cor/nin
Whm/sch

Lullaby adds, drg spams leg sweep on blm and drk to keep em stun locked and zerg everything else.

Wilt/frailty entrust fury. Honor/victory/minuet5/madrigal5,sam/fighters rolls.

My ls members and I tried BLU strategy. It was very successful. It took us 7 mins to clear. GEO pulled a BST pet away from the group, and then BLU/COR focused on BLM to kill first.

After that, BLU spams Entomb/Spectral Floe. Geo used dispelga to take shells down from mobs. It’s easy and fast.

Edit: GEO used Malaise/Acumen/Entrust Attunement. Cor/bard buffs are the same you would use for melee. No need to use light carols.

12 minutes that time and I forgot bolster.

If it is taking more than 6 minutes with the blu start might as well go back to the regular strat of just super buff DD with cor watching the aura. If we didn’t have to wait through 3 invincible this wouldn’t even take that long..

Jp video shows blu strategy and it takes 2min56sec total including 15 sec loading zone and buffs. So its not BLU strategy that is slow, but some people not doing it optimally. He soloed VD on BLU in 15 min.

Yeah that’s kind of my point though if you’re (not you but the general groups) blu strat ain’t working just do the old one cause 15 minutes for Vd is dumb. It’s not like 6 minutes is that long.

First page. Come on this thread is not that long.

Can confirm this. Using Stun on BLU/BLM lands and gets it to bypass Invincible. Only tried Sudden Lunge once, but got resisted.

The reason why BLU strategy is preferred is because it's somewhat tough to land silence on reaver in mediocre MACC set. Then dreadspikes will kill people, that slows down kill speed even more. I think duelist also has shock spikes?

You can TP on other mobs then WS on reaver but switching targets also slows down kill speed. May as well just cleave without hitting these things.

In your video silence seems to land and you TP in 1 hand weapon anyways, so dreadspikes is not really an issue.

The reason why people has been reporting much slower run than the JP video is because their setup was not identical to JP setup.

In the video, they used:

1) Indi frailty, geo malaise, entrust Indi acumen. So all 3 bubbles should be DD bubbles.

It seems that everybody that needed 7+ min used defensive bubbles, which is probably not a requirement, and kill speed will slow down.



2) They skipped cor in their set-up and had a MNK hitting really hard on the boss. By the time adds were done boss were at 30% HP already. Having the DD take down significant amount of HP on boss before cleves are done is crucial for fast runs.

I think cor is still a good choice for this slot with rolls, but frailty can't be skipped because DD needs it.

3) They finished buffing in less than 1 min. You would be surprised at how many BRDs out there needs more than 1 min to finish buffs.

4) Daybreak dispelga is extremely fast when it comes to removing shell on all mobs. If shell isn't removed immediately cleave speed will slow down.

Silence was easily landed by our whm every single time. We did that fight the exact same way like 7 times in a row. The one handed tp thing is a side project of videos I’m working on for how stupid overpowered the sword/fencer combo is.

Actually I had a question about this, I brought my RDM in for one VD group and ended up going through Immunobreaks before getting the Warlock, Duelist and Reaver silenced, what gives?


Might depend on practice and/or familiarity with TP Switching. I use this method exclusively in this Ambu to avoid Spikes and often will 3-Step the mobs with no problem at all. I play Controller so it might be easier to transition? Can’t imagine what you’d have to do on Keyboard to switch. But once you get it down, it’s not really a loss, hell with a macro set with <stnpc> you can have your WSs command prompt on target and ready to go and as soon as you get TP, Shoot it.

I have good gear for my whm and it takes me 1-3 casts, most times 2 immunobreaks, rarely 1st cast.

The whm in our group is absolutely BIS so I can’t really comment on any differences you see or where the threshold for MACC lies. You can tell though that the drk wasn’t silenced in the video I did since it cast dreadspikes and we turned and the cor just dark shot dispelled it. If you aren’t as fast with this stuff and your party members are not as on the ball then yeah I’d just tp on others and WS on the drk. This is month there isn’t a wrong way just different levels of fast ways.