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 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-02-12 16:18:52
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Phoenix.Oyama said: »
I've gained a whole bunch and lost nothing, but YMMV.
Real question, what have you gained? A couple extra beads? That's worth giving up "free" stones?

You lost time. It takes longer to kill without bots helping kill it. That lost time translates directly to less beads per time spent killing.

Then you double lost time, if you go take time to farm stones that you aren't getting from the dragons.
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By Phoenix.Oyama 2020-02-12 16:21:40
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The real question is why you are assuming I'm talking about killing dragons for stones, or that I care about beads. It's pretty obvious why no longer being able to bot a valuable commodity is a gain for people who farm that commodity rather than botting it. My time requirements are unchanged but my return on that time investment increased.
 
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By Shiva.Thorny 2020-02-12 16:23:46
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Farm, bot, whatever. New dragon is just a wasted hour, and has no new rewards. Rule 1 is that if you add something difficult, you add a reward to compensate.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Javarr 2020-02-12 16:24:55
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-02-12 16:08:30
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Go say something about it! "excessive" hits the nail squarely on the head.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/56445-February-2020-FINAL-FANTASY-XI-Digest


Have indeed, even though I'm pretty sure nothing will happen with it, but can say I at least tried. lol
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-02-12 16:25:16
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They DO actually look at feedback on those threads specifically!
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By Phoenix.Oyama 2020-02-12 16:25:58
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Guess farming an hour for a 600k stack of ferns is worth it on Phoenix

I lol'd.

I haven't tried the new dragon yet but from what I've been reading, looks like I've got some LS Siren in my immediate future lol. New NM certainly seems to be an epic fail.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-02-12 16:26:12
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Not to be THAT GUY, but if it were a weekly cap, wouldn't be such an issue, just saying. Grab NQ dragons til this CB pops, go do something else til the next day, not losing out on 20-80 pts a day.....

Just super saiyan....
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2020-02-12 16:44:01
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Caerda said: »
Not this weekly cap ***again lol...

What ever you say masochists... some people actually would like to enjoy their playtime...
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-02-12 16:54:36
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The jp have 3 pages bitching about the new dragon, highlights

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I don't feel like winning a new NM.
It is not enough to give such 80P.
Did you have any gimmicks?
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But who would be glad to add something that won't win and just wastes time?
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Yes, the only request is "I want to finish it as soon as possible and do other things"
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Otherwise, there is no significance to the higher version, it is just a bug that takes away the player's time.
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Can you tell me what purpose you put this NM in?
I couldn't earn even 80P every day. There is only pain.
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It's good to earn 80DP, but I feel that the appeal of strength is weak.
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I participated in the defeat of NM, but it is too strong.
Nearly 200 people gathered at the time immediately after the day change, but failed to defeat.
If it is not possible to defeat under such favorable conditions, isn't it possible to defeat it?
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I felt that just getting 80DP would not be enough.
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I was very surprised. I was surprised.
Are the parameters of HNM obviously wrong?
Have you really been tested?
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The new NM in the domain seems to be strong.
If it appears frequently, it is only an obstacle.
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Honestly, it's unbalanced if it's about 80DP, and I wonder if there is a server that can be defeated. Enhance rewards (drop for everyone) or require immediate removal
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Please remove Taniguchi from development.

And please also remove those who are Matsui, Mochizuki and Fujito from FF11.
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By Pantafernando 2020-02-12 16:57:15
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Thanks for all feedback.

After hearing your bit...I mean sugestion, we decided to make some change on Domain Invasion content. Starting February, Mireu will be adjused to fly after some amount of dmg is done.
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By Shiva.Xelltrix 2020-02-12 17:06:51
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Caerda said: »
Not this weekly cap ***again lol...

Not your apologist crap again.... Why are people complaining about this event now when they weren't before even though the event is completely different and has new rewards that it didn't offer back when no one cared about it? I'm so confused.
 
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By Bismarck.Indigla 2020-02-12 17:11:00
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Fought it for the 2nd time today, first pop was in Zitah in the morning, 2nd pop Reisenjima, but it popped full HP again when it was down to 48% in the morning. Not sure how I'll ever get title if it's like that. Also seems like you don't even get silt while fighting it?
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By cuddlyhamster 2020-02-12 17:12:31
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my proposal to fix new nm is to give DI points at the regular intervals that give silt and display what u did in the fight. DI points that do not count toward daily limit
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-02-12 17:14:55
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cuddlyhamster said: »
my proposal to fix new nm is to give DI points at the regular intervals that give silt and display what u did in the fight. DI points that do not count toward daily limit

If it were an independent cap, that would resolve most of the problem. But it would have give a LOT of DI points to make anyone care.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-02-12 17:15:24
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cuddlyhamster said: »
my proposal to fix new nm is to give DI points at the regular intervals that give silt and display what u did in the fight. DI points that do not count toward daily limit

I could get behind this, can still be 'un-beatable', but at least gives people incentive to try.
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By Meeble 2020-02-12 17:28:09
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I wonder how the next DI campaign will go? Will they stop doing it because dragons no longer drop items?

Double points on your first DI of the day! I can't wait!
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By Aquatiq 2020-02-12 17:56:23
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is it really that hard with everyone in DI gear or are we just not even gonna go down that road
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By Shiva.Thorny 2020-02-12 17:58:53
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is it really that hard with everyone in DI gear or are we just not even gonna go down that road

DI gear doesn't amount to that much more damage, I suspect it's more about having buffs instead of throwing tards with trusts sitting at accuracy floor and 1.0 ratio.

It won't pop for me to gauge it though and getting bored after 5 laps around the circuit.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-02-12 18:05:10
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Well it'll pop eventually, and it'll sit there for the full hour (30? the full hour is a penalty?), so you'll have plenty of time to experiment.
 
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By Draylo 2020-02-12 18:09:12
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It gives a title guys!!!
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-02-12 18:14:03
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Draylo said: »
It gives a title guys!!!
Almost as useful as a lightsaber, almost.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2020-02-12 18:18:13
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Draylo said: »
It gives a title guys!!!

It's worth it
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By Shiva.Thorny 2020-02-12 18:18:32
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Yea, popped and it's generally a clusterfuck. Damage is fine with typical buffs(marchx2 madx2 fury frailty torpor hunter chaos). MNK isn't in any danger of dying if you have a healer.

Depending on if/how it HP scales, it really seems like the randoms are the worst part of it. You get lagged, your songs are constantly being overwritten by trust garbage, and the mob has perma TP because of how many of them are there.

If it were left alone and the HP scaling is anything close to linear, I don't see a reason any typical endgame group of 6 would have trouble killing it with tons of time leftover. Too bad that'll never happen.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-02-12 18:21:32
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So, last question about the DI gear, can you offhand a weapon and it's still full powered?
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