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PSA: Flaw Identified in Voidwatch Addon (Ban Risk)
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1
By Asura.Dreadpirate 2019-11-19 10:09:19
To all you "White Knights" trying to create "equality" in a video game by snitching everyone else out: Your Momma's a hoe
Sincerely: The rest of us
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Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 284
By Asura.Aquatiq 2019-11-19 10:40:03
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Asura.Eiryl
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-19 10:43:33
Quote: This isn't some massive exploit, it let you get some extra pulse cells. Certainly nothing worth looking for or getting banned for.
400 cells looks like a massive exploit to me lol
By Jetackuu 2019-11-19 10:45:12
Asura.Dreadpirate said: »To all you "White Knights" trying to create "equality" in a video game by snitching everyone else out: Your Momma's a hoe
Sincerely: The rest of us The mentality of all the people bitching in this thread. Thank you for being honest about yourself unlike some of the others.
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 284
By Asura.Aquatiq 2019-11-19 10:49:54
i didn't buy any because the probability of someone having 397 legit cells is far lower than someone having 7900 legit medals lol
man why'd they have to go and *** with the one item whose price never changes
By fonewear 2019-11-19 11:06:13
Should be banned just for the name "comeatmebro" alone !
By fonewear 2019-11-19 11:08:26
Quote: This isn't some massive exploit, it let you get some extra pulse cells. Certainly nothing worth looking for or getting banned for.
400 cells looks like a massive exploit to me lol
Yea 400 cells totally legit nothing to see here move along...
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Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 325
By Asura.Biglovin 2019-11-19 11:12:10
Should be banned just for the name "comeatmebro" alone !
If you look closely, it's actually "Comeeatmebro", which I assume is just his trashy sister's character.
Shiva.Thorny
Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2746
By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-19 11:15:39
Isn't me(neither is Comeatmebro on Asura for that matter, the only actual Comeatmebro character I had is a Galka and has long since been renamed), but I guess now people are gonna eat bans for this harmless/unintentional crap. Oh well.
By spengler 2019-11-19 11:17:48
Classic
Asura.Arico
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 535
By Asura.Arico 2019-11-19 11:19:23
400 cells looks like a massive exploit to me lol
Whoever made that mule is probably trolling and has been doing VW for months using the exploit.
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 163
By Asura.Snapster 2019-11-19 11:25:56
I created the original add-on. I never submitted it to Windower because I felt it blurred the line between an add-on and a bot and that users would know they are taking a risk. I did my best to ensure that nothing too sketchy occurred while using the add-on and that the user experience was reasonably good for what it was. It could undoubtedly be improved, though.
I don't feel like the PSA was necessary, although I'm not unhappy that it occurred. The expectation that users have is semi-automation, and in certain conditions with specific variants of the add-on, the risk of accidentally exploiting something was non-zero. That said, I don't think that it would have led to bannings unless someone became aware of it and attempted to monopolize the exploit. I like having exploits in the game. They bring a certain sense of sneaky excitement. It's disheartening to see them fixed.
Asura.Eiryl
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-19 11:29:08
Exploits for self gain, sure. If you want to create afterglows for yourself out of thin air, or do things for yourself to make the game less shitty, that's great.
Things that *** up the game for everyone else though, come on. That needs fixin'
If you wanted to get 5 cells for a weapon to skip 300 zitah fights, I really wouldn't be mad at you, but if you try to sell 2 billion gil worth of the cells... yeah, you crossed the line.
By Josiahafk 2019-11-19 11:30:46
I created the original add-on. I never submitted it to Windower because I felt it blurred the line between an add-on and a bot and that users would know they are taking a risk. I did my best to ensure that nothing too sketchy occurred while using the add-on and that the user experience was reasonably good for what it was. It could undoubtedly be improved, though.
I don't feel like the PSA was necessary, although I'm not unhappy that it occurred. The expectation that users have is semi-automation, and in certain conditions with specific variants of the add-on, the risk of accidentally exploiting something was non-zero. That said, I don't think that it would have led to bannings unless someone became aware of it and attempted to monopolize the exploit. I like having exploits in the game. They bring a certain sense of sneaky excitement. It's disheartening to see them fixed.
By ashcrow 2019-11-19 12:18:51
Asura.Dreadpirate said: »To all you "White Knights" trying to create "equality" in a video game by snitching everyone else out: Your Momma's a hoe
Sincerely: The rest of us
cheat on your wife instead that's personal we wont care about it.
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By Shichishito 2019-11-19 13:05:03
cheat on your wife instead that's personal we wont care about it. as if there was a RL exploit powerfull enough to convince someone to marry those guys.
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 33
By Asura.Karumac 2019-11-19 13:23:09
cheat on your wife instead that's personal we wont care about it. as if there was a RL exploit powerfull enough to convince someone to marry those guys.
I dunno, arranged marriage is pretty exploitative.
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Lakshmi.Buukki
Serveur: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-11-19 13:26:43
Wow. 397 pulse cells huh? Game is riddled with so many bugs and exploits, it's getting to be the norm. 397 pulse cells, I haven't seen that many in 10,000 VW runs. Was that a current game screenshot or is that from before the duping stuff?
VIP
Serveur: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 674
By Fenrir.Niflheim 2019-11-19 13:27:36
cheat on your wife instead that's personal we wont care about it. as if there was a RL exploit powerfull enough to convince someone to marry those guys.
I dunno, arranged marriage is pretty exploitative.
I see your arranged marriage and raise you mail order brides
Asura.Eiryl
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-19 13:48:34
Oh boys, get ready, whoever made comeeatmebro just verified their character, I'm sure whatever they're going to post will be thoughtful and a delight.
Bismarck.Nickeny
Serveur: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2207
By Bismarck.Nickeny 2019-11-19 13:48:49
How long has it been since the last dupe?
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By Shichishito 2019-11-19 13:49:15
cheat on your wife instead that's personal we wont care about it. as if there was a RL exploit powerfull enough to convince someone to marry those guys.
I dunno, arranged marriage is pretty exploitative.
I see your arranged marriage and raise you mail order brides but can one cheat on property?
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Leviathan.Andret
Serveur: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1008
By Leviathan.Andret 2019-11-19 14:01:42
cheat on your wife instead that's personal we wont care about it. as if there was a RL exploit powerfull enough to convince someone to marry those guys.
I dunno, arranged marriage is pretty exploitative.
I see your arranged marriage and raise you mail order brides but can one cheat on property?
Raise capital to buy land, have the new company hire your own company to build the building, charge them while playing supervisor for the building. Rent out the building, take big salary and have your own company bill the building.
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Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1
By Asura.Twinkletwinkle 2019-11-19 14:19:27
Does that mean someone needs to confirm this exploit, make a mule and call a GM on themselves again?
By Vishwambhari 2019-11-19 14:29:57
Oh boys, get ready, whoever made comeeatmebro just verified their character, I'm sure whatever they're going to post will be thoughtful and a delight. This must obviously be Rook's doing, to make this forum lively again.
Asura.Whiss
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 29
By Asura.Whiss 2019-11-19 14:40:42
***.. Time to buy a new account and exploit VW before the 2nd round of ban hammers.
This morning (November 18th, 2019) we were contacted by an anonymous user who had discoverd a serious flaw in certain modified versions of the unsupported voidwatch addon that has been widely distributed throughout the community. Use of these modified versions of the addon could result in a ban. In light of recent events and the likelihood that users could unintentionally trigger this flaw we felt it was necessary to bring this to the community's attention.
We have contacted the author and confirmed that the original version distributed at the link below does not have this flaw. We believe this flaw was initially benign, but became exploitable following the emergency maintenance on November 13th, 2019; however, we cannot be certain of this. We will not provide details of how to exploit this flaw, and this issue has been reported to SE.
The original unmodified version of the voidwatch addon can be found at https://www.dropbox.com/s/ex1jtgqz4jtmxd8/voidwatch.lua?dl=0
This addon is not distrubuted by Windower, and is not endorsed by us in any way. Use at your own risk.
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