Asura.Eiryl said: »
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Fake medals mixed in with the real supply, tough ***, they all go if they can't distinguish.
You're just telling everyone it's ok to dupe if you launder it on the AH.
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If they're from the AH I personally believe the opposite they all stay and tuff ***. The ones from Thorny and the dude the next day. Yea those all should be taken away. You're just telling everyone it's ok to dupe if you launder it on the AH. Except that there ARE NO CHECKS thats the problem. They aren't removing ANY of the medals.
Not all the medals Not most of the medals Not some of the medals Not a few of the medals ZERO OF THE MEDALS Unacceptable.
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I said I liked the idea not that SE was actually getting off their *** and actually doing them...
they removed 8000 medals on velision or whatever tf his name was, proven and verified
they removed ~800 medals or the results of those medals when they banned aquatiq the two other likely people to deserve a ban are both offline and have yet to make any verified AH listings, so unless you've seen them on you have no grounds to say they weren't banned they may have removed 0 medals by your standards, but i have no problem believing they removed most if not all of the medals that should have been removed (obviously we disagree on what should've been removed)
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Your taru? Thats not removing medals. "removing the medals" is the 10,000 he sold, not the ones he was holding.
Aquatiq put the medals on a mule and is still selling them, thats why he's not here talking anymore. That's 3billion gil, more than enough to start new, buy literally everything and be untouchable as long as he keeps his mouth shut. "those sellers" are always offline. They are mules. They only come online to add more items to the house. Asura.Eiryl said: » Your taru? Thats not removing medals. Asura.Eiryl said: » Aquatiq put the medals on a mule and is still selling them, thats why he's not here talking anymore. Asura.Eiryl said: » "those sellers" are always offline. They are mules. They only come online to add more items to the house. Really though, I don't get why you're so worked up about it to begin with. The market can absorb a whole lot more medals than that, it was happening nonstop until it got fixed and nobody noticed until the last few weeks. Worked up about it not because square is doing nothing (that's standard) But because no one gives a ***.
The house is on fire and everything is still fine jpeg You'll all *** about OP jobs for years, but hundreds of billions of duped gil, ohfuckinwell.dontcare You're(not you, literally) going to *** nonstop about me not being banned starting tomorrow, but the medals are "fine, just fine" There's a difference between not giving a *** and realizing your ability to influence it is limited and raising your blood pressure over it only hurts yourself.
The actual impact of any remaining medals is minimal. They are not able to be distributed in any widespread manner without getting bans. They can't be used frivolously, as no more can be made. Some regular players(probably some RMT too) made a couple billion gil off of reselling them, sure. Why does it matter?
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It's the apathy. You're all supposed to care. If you stop being apathetic force them to do something.
And no, what's being done right now is not "something" it's *** and you're eating it up.
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Asura.Eiryl said: » You're(not you, literally) going to *** nonstop about me not being banned starting tomorrow, but the medals are "fine, just fine" Pretty sure only Shichishito cares, and most of us have him either blocked or passively ignore most of what he says anyway. The medals are all in your head, there are only as many medals hurting anything as anyone believes there are, so it's only as big a problem as you choose to think it is. We aren't going to get clear ban lists from SE, nor a list of what medals they missed. We have literally no way of knowing. If you want to raise a fuss on the OF and demand SE remove all medals I'm sure some people would support it. If they find and remove more as a result, great. It's just that you're the only person who is sitting there believing it's a huge problem. It IS a huge problem lol. I get that you don't care, you get to make unlimited money from (buying) the duped medals (as synthesis materials), you didn't have to do any work. But everyone else, where is their apathy coming from.
It's an obvious problem. Frankly, I don't care if 30 people each got 500 medals and weren't banned. They will still be gone in a matter of a month or two, medals are consumable and have one of the highest flow rates of all popular item.
You realize people doing statue crusher campaign in a group of 18 can pull over 50 of each medal with just a couple CORs and an ally full of tard chars? Despite this being active, and residual medals, price has still gone up. The sky isn't falling. Things were bad, they are currently getting better. I love this conversation. Eiryl screaming SE does nothing while he's banned.
The influx of medals is way less harmful than you botting Sparks 24/7. If you duped 9 million medals it still wouldn't add as much Gil to the economy as you do in 1 day. They aren't going to flood the market with a hundred thousand duped medals, trickle out of the next year. As soon as statue crusher ends and there are still dozens of medals month after month after month.
spengler said: » I love this conversation. Eiryl screaming SE does nothing while he's banned. The influx of medals is way less harmful than you botting Sparks 24/7. If you duped 9 million medals it still wouldn't add as much Gil to the economy as you do in 1 day. I know you're HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, but are you that HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE? You think one guy botting sparks is WORSE than the duped medals, holy *** ***. And again, I. AM. NOT. Banned. Merely a 3 day "slap on the wrist" gonna have to say: Draylo Voice Quote: It was worth it For what it's worth all of the ppl i know of who were banned in the second round had nothing to do with medals. They used the same exploit on different NPC's. The medal dupers were taken out in round 1 (at least the major ones), this seemed aimed at Oboro, Empy Crate, Omen Cards, Sphere's, Silver Vouchers, etc.
Not that i have all the info but that's what i have gathered from those i have talked to. Worth stating out of those 10-12 ppl none were banned for purchasing, selling medals. So those bans may still be in the works, or not coming at all. Given the warning from SE I suspect they are not out of the woods yet. Another person confirming more bans that eiryl will ignore.
Eiryl, you're a class act moron. Do the world a favor and quit posting here.
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L0ki79 said: » Worth stating out of those 10-12 ppl none were banned for purchasing, selling medals. *blindna* > you DirectX said: » The medals don't create gil though? Converting sparks makes new gil (causes inflation). Surely sparks farming on 12 chars is more damaging then preventing some gil from being converted into non-sellable gear. Think of it as value. How much gil is a spark bot worth. 10m a day (ignoring gain-money)
How much gil is a BILLION medals worth. 3 quadrillion gil. as raw materials. 10 octillion gil as Su5. And I hate to break it to you, but I'm not the only spark bot. Just the only famous one. At this point if your doing anything wrong you better lube up and expect to get ****'ed. SE seems to be out to make an example out of anyone and everyone to prove a point.
Probably some bias there though, considering he's in the group that had the exploit.. so the folk he knows are going to be the ones who were using it. All I'd take away from that is that they banned people who used the exploit on other NPCs, not that they didn't ban anyone else.
I still say Aquatiq disappearing that day is pretty strong indication that they were nuking linked chars. If he had the exploit, why would he buy so many of my medals..? Shiva.Thorny said: » Probably some bias there though, considering he's in the group that had the exploit.. so the folk he knows are going to be the ones who were using it. All I'd take away from that is that they banned people who used the exploit on other NPCs, not that they didn't ban anyone else. 100% correct. Just going off what i heard from the people i knew of. Other's could have been banned for other actions. I can say that some of the ppl i know of who bought medals in large quantity have been left alone thus far. Honestly, I did not expect to see a second wave of ban's. I was obviously wrong on that one so not going to guess one way or the other just stating the facts i know at this point. Asura.Xanders said: » At this point if your doing anything wrong you better lube up and expect to get ****'ed. SE seems to be out to make an example out of anyone and everyone to prove a point. See you're falling for it. That's what they want. Rule by fear, but take no action. Take a couple out for an example and pray that everyone else forgets so they don't have to do actual work. And it's *** working. That's embarrassing. Asura.Xanders said: » I can say that some of the ppl i know of who bought medals in large quantity have been left alone thus far. DirectX said: » Well if you make random numbers up like "1 billion medals" then of course it can be argued as worse than 12 sparks bots. No concrete numbers but it's not an unreasonable amount (1 billion) considering the scope and the years it was active. and how fast shields can "make evidence disappear" Asura.Eiryl said: » See you're falling for it. That's what they want. Rule by fear, but take no action. Take a couple out for an example and pray that everyone else forgets so they don't have to do actual work. And it's *** working. That's embarrassing. I mean if your doing dirty **** bad things happen, just the nature of things. That said, some of us have gotten used to some tools like Tako and EasyFarm being part of daily play and they don't seem safe atm. That may or may not be the case, but better safe than sorry. Asura.Eiryl said: » Think of it as value. How much gil is a spark bot worth. 10m a day (ignoring gain-money) How much gil is a BILLION medals worth. 3 quadrillion gil. as raw materials. 10 octillion gil as Su5. And I hate to break it to you, but I'm not the only spark bot. Just the only famous one. yeah if a billion medals were inserted directly into the economy su5 value would not drop. the sheer lack of understanding on how markets work is astounding. no wonder you're willing to get paid min wage to make new characters on FFXI, mcdonalds isn't much better. |
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