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 Cerberus.Aerandir
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By Cerberus.Aerandir 2019-11-29 16:48:51
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By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-29 16:53:33
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That is a quality meme.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-29 18:20:39
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
(and, all the medals still haven't been removed from circulation with zero bans on buyers/traders/mules by the way)

Documented 50+ buyers whos knowingly bought duped medals. Not a single one banned #emptythreat #fullofshit
 
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By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-29 18:31:29
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I thought it was pretty easy to accept some buyers have been banned, between aquatiq disappearing this week after being the most well named buyer and SE warning that associating with exploits will get you banned in their voidwatch release today.

All the medals will not be removed, that's asking too much.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-29 18:33:38
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At least one person bought more medals than Aquatiq. I stand firmly on the fact that he wasn't banned for buying the medals, he did something stupid and never came back to admit it.

And it's not asking too much. Reposes everything.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-29 18:35:59
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
At least one person bought more medals than Aquatiq. I stand firmly on the fact that he wasn't banned for buying the medals, he did something stupid and never came back to admit it.

And it's not asking too much. Reposes everything.
Yea, Azeran. After making multiple AH purchases daily, his last purchase was the day of the bans and he's had exactly 7 sales since and is currently offline. He could be banned too.
 
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-29 18:39:40
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He has an account and seems pretty nonchalant about it, so gonna say #***

Bromus / Azeran has an account too.
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By spengler 2019-11-29 18:40:11
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Good lord eiryl just does not know when to quit.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-29 18:40:58
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Never going to until they do their job, or you all quit believing the ***.
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By Jetackuu 2019-11-29 18:46:57
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Going to put out here: Aquatic =/= Aquatiq. The latter I don't know, the former is a Scythe hating lolDRK on Bahamut who is most definitely NOT banned.

Just for a public announcement.
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By Draylo 2019-11-29 18:48:25
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SE themselves has said if you are associated with the exploit knowingly (buying duped medals, knowing they were duped) then you are suspect and can be hammered.
 
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-29 18:52:43
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DirectX said: »
Unless Thorny specifically sent those chars a tell then how can they prove knowledge that they were duped?

Shiva.Thorny said: »
My bazaar said not to buy them, my shout said not to buy them, I told anyone who sent me a tell that it was not safe to buy them. If they got banned, that's natural selection at work.

Literal documentation of who bought known duped medals, wheres the bans at? https://pastebin.com/iBAZPyut

Azeran and Dreviont are still selling items like nothing happened and they both bought more than Aquatiq (I think, I didn't count totals)

Dragonsrage got 2,000 still there selling.
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By spengler 2019-11-29 18:52:46
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Never going to until they do their job, or you all quit believing the ***.
Says the guy probably creating new characters as we speak due to a ban. Lmao
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-29 18:54:01
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spengler said: »
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Never going to until they do their job, or you all quit believing the ***.
Says the guy probably creating new characters as we speak due to a ban. Lmao

Don't need new toons characters yet, they aren't banned. Merely 3 day temps. I'll blow you a kiss tomorrow or sunday when they come back online.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-29 18:56:20
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i mean, when people say ***like this:
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[22:03:14.473] Bromus>> i buy them and what happens?
[22:03:23.906] Bromus>> they dont appear in my inventory?
[22:03:26.758] >>Bromus : honestly, there's a good chance SE will lump you in with me for duping them and you'll get banned
[22:03:31.810] >>Bromus : but you will get the medals, they are real
[22:03:39.826] >>Bromus : i just want to pressure SE into fixing it
[22:03:58.725] Bromus>> ï'Blank Gazeï(
[22:04:24.429] Bromus>> want to explain abit more?
[22:04:39.795] Bromus>> i mean, if i take these and go make +2 necks
[22:04:50.363] >>Bromus : honestly, youu can do what you want, but this char will absolutely get banned
[22:04:52.419] Bromus>> thats a whole other item
[22:04:59.128] >>Bromus : and there is a risk you will be lumped in with it for buying them
[22:05:05.751] Bromus>> how are you duping them 
[22:05:08.978] >>Bromus : i'm not going to try to convince you it's a bad idea, i've said my piece
[22:05:16.103] >>Bromus : i want it fixed, i'm obviously not going to give you a tutorial
[22:05:30.484] Bromus>> im not trying to be banned
[22:05:39.002] Bromus>> but whats your defination of duping lol
[22:05:50.864] Bromus>> like point, click, more items?
[22:06:02.150] >>Bromus : i will give no further information
[22:06:07.200] Bromus>> or some scheme with dynamis ?
[22:06:14.192] >>Bromus : besides that these are not legitimate medals and you will incur some risk by buying them
[22:06:17.295] >>Bromus : such that i advise against it
[22:06:21.518] >>Bromus : i am not stopping you from doing so
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By fonewear 2019-11-29 18:57:00
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Reading this thread like:

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 Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-29 19:07:54
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Dreviont is questionable, but I don't see any proof dragonsrage or azeran are still active. Neither is online, neither has made an AH purchase since the ban day, and both have less than 7 sales since.

Regardless, your only evidence of anything is your own skepticism. You haven't convinced anyone besides yourself that SE's done nothing. Most of us understand they didn't get every last medal, but it seems ridiculous to assume they banned nobody with all of the evidence around you.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-29 19:13:19
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It doesn't SEEM ridiculous, it IS ridiculous. Because it's very obvious they're still around.

Dragonsrage bought TWO THOUSAND (or more) he doesn't need to buy anything for quite a while.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-29 19:14:29
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If he bought them on the AH, why should he be banned for that? There's no guarantee he had any idea what was going on.
 
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-29 19:16:21
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lol ***. yeah a couple thousand medals "organically" popped up on the AH, for half price. (one third the price)

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

(again though, not saying he should be banned for it, but the medals can and should be taken away) If you get counterfeit USD they don't automatically throw you in jail but they take your money.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2019-11-29 19:17:41
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
If he bought them on the AH, why should he be banned for that? There's no guarantee he had any idea what was going on.
On top of what you said. There were legit medals sitting on the AH. What are people suppose to wait forever for SE to clear the super cheap ones that are going to sell first because of the way the AH works? (*** no because we all know they either A wouldn't or B would take monthes.)
 
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-29 19:18:29
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Fake medals mixed in with the real supply, tough ***, they all go if they can't distinguish.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2019-11-29 19:19:38
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Fake medals mixed in with the real supply, tough ***, they all go if they can't distinguish.
If they're from the AH I personally believe the opposite they all stay and tuff ***. The ones from Thorny and the dude the next day. Yea those all should be taken away.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-29 19:19:52
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They can probably also look at other factors, such as time from listing to purchase. If it's up more than a few minutes, pretty unlikely it's a duper giving to to themselves.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-29 19:20:23
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Asura.Chiaia said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Fake medals mixed in with the real supply, tough ***, they all go if they can't distinguish.
If they're from the AH I personally believe the opposite they all stay and tuff ***. The ones from Thorny and the dude the next day. Yea those all should be taken away.

You're just telling everyone it's ok to dupe if you launder it on the AH.

Shiva.Thorny said: »
They can probably also look at other factors, such as time from listing to purchase. If it's up more than a few minutes, pretty unlikely it's a duper giving to to themselves.

We both know money is better than physical items. If laundering via AH is fine, then just dupe all day and have mules sell, keep all the gil.
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